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01-17-2011, 12:45 PM
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Building a new Rig(halp)
Hello all, Im looking at building a new home desktop for my parents/me and is gunna be paid for with the upcoming tax refunds. I have a few questions about which parts are compatible, and whether my PSU is beefy enough. Leme know if theres anything youd change, or if something doesnt work together.
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156063 ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131631 -Motherboard XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447 -Graphics Card CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 - PSU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103849 - Processor Patriot G series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGV38G1600ELK http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220484 -RAM Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 -HDD Im not looking to build the biggest and baddest, but right around the 1000$ range overall is what im shooting for. Im gunna be running a 23.6" monitor, simple mouse and keyboard and a small sound system(atm). If something is not compatible/ up to par leme know, thanks for any input 
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01-17-2011, 01:20 PM
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Would it make it easier if i typed out what each item is? Jw so you guys dont gotta click 100 different links.
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01-17-2011, 01:22 PM
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Yes.
Just copy and paste the description from the website...plus include the link.
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01-17-2011, 01:46 PM
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Gotcha ill do that 2 seconds.
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01-17-2011, 02:43 PM
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XFX isn't very good. Go with Asus or Diamond or HIS.
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01-17-2011, 03:21 PM
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I really dunno the differences between graphic cards :/ And would really like to stick in the 150$ range, any specific cards ud reccomend?
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01-17-2011, 03:22 PM
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If you are not going to be gaming, the video card is overkill. If you are going to be gaming, it's not strong enough. A 5770 is kind of in a "no man's land". If you need to cut costs, drop the ram down to 4gb.
Looks good, but we recommend Asus, EVGA, Diamond, or HIS for video cards and Corsair, Crucial, Kingston, or A-Data for ram. |
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01-17-2011, 03:30 PM
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Yea im tempted to drop RAM but my Motherboard is dual channel so that means i cant use 3 sticks to = 6gb right? If i need i guess i can always add more RAM later. Im definatly gunna be gaming on this thing, so yeah.
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01-17-2011, 03:35 PM
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No, you can't put three sticks of 2 GB. Just go with 4 and you can always put another kit of 4GB later if/when needed.
For gaming, the most important component is the VC so you don't wanna skimp on that. |
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01-17-2011, 03:38 PM
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So i need to go with 2x2gbs?
Edit: These seem to be my best choices. 2x2 A-DATA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211409 2x2 G-Skill http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231277 Normally id go with the G-Skill because of the more reviews but why do you say A-DATA? Last edited by Deathdiesel; 01-17-2011 at 03:46 PM. |
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01-17-2011, 03:52 PM
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NOO!! Not Gee.'s-a-Kill.
The A-Data is good. |
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01-17-2011, 04:00 PM
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What makes you think you need more than 4gb ram?
The 1600 will work fine, but is unnecessary unless you will be overclocking. If you can afford it, I'd recommend a Radeon 6850 or 6870. The video card is the most important component in a gaming rig. Cut your processor down to a 3 or 4 core if you have to. There 's not a game made that can use 6 cores. |
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01-17-2011, 04:44 PM
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Hows this one? Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity And idk, ive heard that 4 is pushing the limits these days. Also new budget is 220$ for a GPU so im up to suggestions. Thanks for all the help so far btw guys, making my life a lot easier as a newb. :P
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01-17-2011, 05:04 PM
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01-17-2011, 05:09 PM
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So heres what i think is my best bet, or what seems to be in my knowledge. 2 Choices,
SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo ASUS EAH6870/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo There was a diamond in the same price range, but the reviews kinda leaned towards not. Edit: Whats the major differences between all these cards? Im just guessing here. Last edited by Deathdiesel; 01-17-2011 at 05:28 PM. |
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01-17-2011, 06:02 PM
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Brand. And please note that Sapphire has no end user customer support in North America.
I'm partial to Diamond, maybe because I have very fond memories of my old Diamond Viper V770; but you can't go wrong with Arsus. |
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01-17-2011, 06:30 PM
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So i should go with asus probably?
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01-17-2011, 06:35 PM
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If it's 'tween the last two you listed, I'd say yes.
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01-17-2011, 07:39 PM
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Alright coolio. So heres how the finished product should end up.
ASUS EAH6870/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with ... Newegg.com - ASUS EAH6870/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case Newegg.com - RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-2G Newegg.com - A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-2G Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Questions/Complaints/Advice? Thanks for all the help so far guys, definatly straightened a few things out. Edit: I just took a look at the mobo i was planning on getting. What makes some of the 870-890 series 50-60$ more? I looked at the specs side by side and couldnt figure it out. What makes a better motherboard? Last edited by Deathdiesel; 01-17-2011 at 08:26 PM. |
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01-17-2011, 10:44 PM
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What's wrong with that HIS I linked? Note its clock speeds in comparison, and it has free shipping.
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01-17-2011, 11:01 PM
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Yeah, but if i remember its got very iffy reviews. Yeah only 5 but none of them are truely happy with the outcome of it. js ATM im at a conundrum with the mobo, trying to find one with usb 3.0, 1600 mem std, and asus turbo boost and core unlocker.
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01-17-2011, 11:17 PM
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Just a question: whose reviews are you referring to?
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01-17-2011, 11:38 PM
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Most of the few reviews their are on that card did rate as 4/5 or 3/5 on Newegg. However, when you read the con reports the objections are all either price or overclockers unhappy because the voltage is locked. None of the negatives are a reflection on the card itself.
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01-18-2011, 12:18 AM
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One has to take customer "reviews" with a grain of salt. I wish vendors would say how many units they've sold, so that we could compare that number against the number of negative reviews. Most of the users who never have a problem don't post any review whatsoever.
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01-18-2011, 07:36 AM
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If I may make a suggestion, I'd recommend dropping down to a quad core processor and using the saved money to up your graphics card. Something like
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX That'll save you $80, which could go towards an HD 6950! Newegg.com - ASUS EAH6950/2DI2S/2GD5 Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity Which you can flash to an HD 6970 with ease 
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01-18-2011, 02:51 PM
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01-18-2011, 04:39 PM
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Okay so im a little concerned. Ive had i think 3 people suggest i drop the AMD and go with an Intel i5, and drop more into the GPU. What do you guys think, my current setup? Or Go with the i5-2500k and go from there, opinions please? I really dunno what to do now.
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01-18-2011, 05:12 PM
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Use whatever processor you want that fits the budget, but the fact remains that for gaming, you need the best video card your budget can stand. The 6 core AMD is not anywhere near the best gaming processor for the money.
Best Gaming CPUs For The Money: December 2010 : December Updates This is from before the introduction of Sandy Bridge. With that said, you would not be disappointed in the 6870. The Sandy Bridge i5's are getting excellent reviews, but be prepared to spend $180 for a motherboard to support it well. |
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01-18-2011, 05:33 PM
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The most basic reason people are pushing Intel is that most games and other programs simply don't take advantage of 6 cores. Video and photo manipulation are the main uses for CPUs like that. Programers and other specialty users can also use them, but a normal user would get more speed out of a faster dual or quad core at the most. You should balance the price between CPU and processor, but price being roughly equal, in your case, get the better graphics card.
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01-18-2011, 08:58 PM
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Ok so if i went with the i5-2500k, how could i cut costs effectively. So far price with that would be around 30$ more than the AMD because of the expensive mobos.
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