Little more PC build advice would be appreciated :)

[BlackThought]

Ok this is part two of my gaming build, i've made a lot of changes and didnt know if i should post it in my old thread or not, if it has to be merged then by all means mods do so
Question, when i buy all of these parts, will they come with the wires so i can hook them up? or will i have to buy them sep? from my reading i guess OEM HDD's come only with the drive? what about the other components ?

Also is there anything else that i can change to cut cost? budget was 700, but if it goes a little over that it's fine.

My parts

Case
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Newegg.com - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

MOBO-HAS BEEN UPDATED
ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Newegg.com - ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU-HAS BEEN UPDATED
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX


GPU
GIGABYTE GV-R567OC-1GI Rev2.0 Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GV-R567OC-1GI Rev2.0 Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
^ I've changed my mind from last time, i want to do SOME gaming, but nothing very recent or over kill like "Crysis"


PSU
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Newegg.com - Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

^Do i really need 550W ?


RAM-HAS BEEN UPDATED
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339Newegg.com - Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339

^How much RAM do you REALLY need? i do plan on going Win64 bit, should i get 8 GB?

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

CD/DVD
LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive Black SATA Model GH22NS50B
Newegg.com - LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive

[jdeb]

All the required cables will come with the motherboard. I think your build is fine but you can look at my changes, everything else looks good. You can cut cost by going to a different CPU but that is a great CPU for the money. You could go with a dual core and knock off 60.00 and try to unlock cores, if so, go with a dual core black edition callisto http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103846. there is a good chance of unlocking one to two additional cores. The Power supply is a good choice

I would change the motherboard to ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3
Newegg.com - ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

I would stick with 1.5v memory, although the one you chose will work.
Newegg.com - Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1067

Virtually the same card but better support
Newegg.com - ASUS EAH5670/DI/1GD5 Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

[flanzig1]

550w is just about the sweet spot for a system with a video card. Could probably go down to 450w with that video card but you wouldn't have much headroom.
4gigs is a good starting place for ram.

[BlackThought]

Originally Posted by jdeb All the required cables will come with the motherboard. I think your build is fine but you can look at my changes, everything else looks good. You can cut cost by going to a different CPU but that is a great CPU for the money. You could go with a dual core and knock off 60.00 and try to unlock cores, if so, go with a dual core black edition callisto Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX. there is a good chance of unlocking one to two additional cores. The Power supply is a good choice I would change the motherboard to ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 Newegg.com - ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard I would stick with 1.5v memory, although the one you chose will work. Newegg.com - Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1067 Virtually the same card but better support Newegg.com - ASUS EAH5670/DI/1GD5 Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

1. In your opinion why should i choose the ASUS mobo over the one i have?
2. For the video card you chose, better support meaning?

Originally Posted by flanzig1 550w is just about the sweet spot for a system with a video card. Could probably go down to 450w with that video card but you wouldn't have much headroom. 4gigs is a good starting place for ram.

K thanks, i'll stick with the RAM and PSU

Thanks for the fast responses

EDIT: I also downgraded the CPU to the AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition , looked at the benches and 20 bucks isnt worth the default speed when i can just OC it

[Nuclear Krusader]

Asus is better than Gigabyte. Both are good, though, it's just that most people trust Asus over anything else because they've been the top dog for so many years.

[jdeb]

Asus is the preferred brand on this forum. they are known for quality, stability, reliability, and great customer support in the event you run into a issue. The ram I picked for you is very stable but to each his own. The Asus utilities are much better than Gigabytes for what it's worth.

[BlackThought]

OK I've updated my list to include the new MOBO over the Gigabtye

Also jdeb i wasnt knocking your RAM choice, but the one i picked is cheaper, im trying to cut corners, if theres a huge difference between the two please explain to me, i know nothing about RAM

[jdeb]

Originally Posted by BlackThought OK I've updated my list to include the new MOBO over the Gigabtye Also jdeb i wasnt knocking your RAM choice, but the one i picked is cheaper, im trying to cut corners, if theres a huge difference between the two please explain to me, i know nothing about RAM

I am sorry, this is the one I meant to recommend
Newegg.com - Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339 and it is less.

[BlackThought]

Ahh thats more like it, i have Crucial RAM in my laptop im using no issues thus far

[BlackThought]

Another question, the MOBO specs say Number of Memory Slots:
4×240pin

Ordering 2 sticks 4 GB total , will i be able to buy 2 more sticks of the same RAM to upgrade it to 8GB or will i have to buy 2 4GB sticks>?

[0bit]

You can buy two more sticks of 2gb to up the total to 8gb, same model number and brand of the existing ram is a plus. Getting some other brand/model number/voltage/timing can and will be a mess.

[BlackThought]

Thanks, i doubt i'll need more than 4 since 2GB does me good right now, but i just wanted to be sure, idk how much diff 64 BIT OSes are from 32 bit regarding RAM use

[BlackThought]

Ok yet another question i think im getting addicted lol

I wanna bump up the GPU

Would i be able to use this card?
Newegg.com - HIS H577FK1GD Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity


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And if im able to use the card, would you suggest this

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Newegg.com - XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

or this

HIS H577FK1GD Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

Newegg.com - HIS H577FK1GD Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
"450 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connectors recommended"

The PSU says "PCI-Express Connector
1 x 6-Pin"

But it doesnt say 75W , should it specifically say 75 W or no?

[glc]

The BP550 Plus will run any video card out there that needs one or two 6 pin PCI-E connectors.

If you want a 5770, this is the best deal out there:

Newegg.com - HIS H577FK1GD Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

[BlackThought]

thanks GLC, ill go with that 5770 , 'Betsy' will be my first builds name