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02-22-2011, 01:27 AM
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It's my understanding that it's better to get 2 (for dual channel)or 4 sticks (2 x dual channel) ( 2x2, 2x4, 4x2, or 4x4gb) in matched sets for use on AMD board, rather than the single 4gb(for single channel) stick you chose. Should be mucho faster in theory.
I think the recent Intel boards can use dual OR triple channel so I would buy your memory for them in matched sets of 2 or 3, IMO. Maybe hard to impossible to make one stick match well later. On the other hand, I might not really know what I'm talking about, hehe. I have yet to build my first computer. My parts should arrive today and then I get started, yayy! There's really good buys right now on DDR3 1333. Look for them with better timing specs than what you specified too, like CL7, instead of CL9. I bought Kingston Hyper-X, but almost went with G.Skill (technician most helpful, understandable, and friendly I spoke to, I just didn't want the tall heatsinks possibly interfering with CPU cooler), and thought about Corsair, Crucial. I don't really know much about Ultra admittedly, but I'm with glc in pushing the better grade Corsair single rail proven PSU's. If you insist on modular, and you have to have big wattage, and you can trust 'em (modular), look at Corsair AX-850 or HX 850 or another Corsair higher in watts if you really need 'em. Just make sure the connections you do make to the back of the power supply are very well seated and very tight. Any looseness/arcing in the connections is gonna end up in nuclear meltdown sooner or later in any of these modulars. Myself, I am preferring the safety over the inconvenience of having all the cabling hardwired into the PSU. Corsair even has newer unmodular V2 models that are around 90% efficient, like the TX-850V2, about $150 at Amazon. In closing, all watts are NOT created equal. I think many of these manufacturers are rating at peak watts and probably stretching them at that. A 1050W rated PSU may run very hot, unstably, erratic, and unclean under a continuous load of 800W, and might not even output near full rating for more than a few seconds without blowing up, whilst another high quality 850W rated PSU might remain quite cool, stable, and clean under the same 750W or so load, and causing much less stress to both your PSU and your very sensitive computer components. Just saying..... Dang, How many watts do those high-end video cards pull down anyway? 300, 350W's? more? Last edited by bigsully; 02-22-2011 at 01:35 AM. |
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02-22-2011, 09:48 AM
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Basically you have three options here for your CPU/socket. AMD, Intel 1156 or to wait for the revised chip sets for the Sandy Bridge socket 1155 to become available. Whats interesting is that the fastest $350 Sandy Bridge is as fast as as Intel's $1000 CPU's. So there is no sense in purchasing a really expensive Intel CPU if you can wait until April and want to go with Intel.
As far as dual channel or triple channel, the 1366 socket boards are triple channel and the 1156 boards are dual channel. The professional builders in this forum are not recommending the 1366 because of instability problems.
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02-22-2011, 12:01 PM
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I mean, I don't really mind spending the money, as long as it's a bit future-proof. I'm still confused as to whether the sandy bridge is just as good as the 980 or not.
Also, thanks for telling me not to use TigerDirect. Almost might have made a mistake. And, why not get a top of the line computer for the first one? I'm actually not going to be assembling this completely by myself. It's a project with a friend of mine, but I'm going to keep it. He's just helping me assemble whatever I come up with. Thanks, guys. This forum's really helpful for me! 
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02-22-2011, 12:03 PM
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My recommendation was based on a system that's going to be bought NOW. If you can wait till April, I highly recommend a Sandy Bridge.
Top of the line is not economically wise. There is a "sweet spot" that costs a fraction of high end and performs almost as well. My recommendation gave you the current "sweet spot" with a couple exceptions - the power supply and video card are decidedly high end. The money you save can be spent a lot better when you DO upgrade later - and you WILL be upgrading, even with a high end build. Last edited by glc; 02-22-2011 at 12:07 PM. |
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02-22-2011, 12:05 PM
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Do you think my setup was really that bad for a first time?
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02-22-2011, 12:22 PM
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I mean, this computer's not only gaming, but HTPC, video-editing and photography... :T no?
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02-22-2011, 01:23 PM
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Its your money, if you think you have to have a 6 core processor then go for it. However most games only utilize 2 cores so you get no benefit from anything more than that, HTPC is not really taxing for a modern computer, video-editing can be taxing but its nothing that a good quad core can't handle. The sandy bridge chips are currently the best on the market for gaming according to anandtech, and they are easily overclocked to make them even faster. I would personally wait till April and start fresh with the new components that are out then, like the new GTX 590 coming out if you are wanting top of the line, or go with the 580 and enjoy the price drop. If you have to build now then I would go with GLC's recommendation.
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02-22-2011, 01:37 PM
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Your setup was definitely not BAD - but it was overpriced for what you get and you picked a couple places to save money that didn't make total sense.
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02-23-2011, 12:59 PM
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+1 on what GLC is saying here. There is such a thing as diminishing returns on your investment. This is what he is referring to when he says "sweet spot". I have a system very close to what he has listed for you and it does everything I need and then some. The only thing extra I have is raided intel solid state drives. |
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