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02-26-2011, 06:28 PM
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First Build for college
I am trying to build a computer for gaming but also for college as well I have helped assemble computers before but never worked or ordered one by my self so I am wondering if all these parts are compatible and if they are up to date since this computer needs to last 5 or more years and all I need is the box btw my budget is just short of $800 if you need more info about the parts just ask and sorry everything is bunched together
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Newegg.com - APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Disc Combo Model UH10LS20 LightScribe Support - OEM Newegg.com - LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Disc Combo Model UH10LS20 LightScribe Support - Blu-Ray Drives AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBR BOX Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBR BOX G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive I also need suggestions for a cheap but good graphics card Last edited by Aron0067; 02-26-2011 at 06:58 PM. |
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02-26-2011, 06:36 PM
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You must be planning on light gaming as no video card on list. The motherboard has built in video but would not run any intense games.
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02-26-2011, 06:40 PM
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sorry I forgot to post this but I also need a video card suggestion for the motherboard
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02-26-2011, 07:07 PM
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I think it depends on what games you want to play, I'll defer to the gamers in the forum make some suggestions to you.
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02-26-2011, 10:15 PM
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Best Graphics Cards For The Money: February 2011 : February Updates
I'd recommend you get a motherboard that takes DDR3 ram. Recommended ram brands are Corsair, Crucial, Kingston, or A-Data. Replace the Seagate drive with a Western Digital Black. |
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02-26-2011, 11:34 PM
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Thanks for the advice here is a updated list of what I am going to get would appreciate it if somebody could double check me and make sure everything is compatible especially processor and motherboard because I am not very confident with them (and I was also wondering if maybe the processor might be a little to overboard) also if my graphics card can run games like fallout 3 + new vegas and left 4 dead 2
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116758 Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320 ASUS M4A78LT-M AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS M4A78LT-M AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard Crucial 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CT25664BA1339 Newegg.com - Crucial 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CT25664BA1339 GIGABYTE GV-R567D3-1GI Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GV-R567D3-1GI Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Newegg.com - APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBR BOX Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBR BOX LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Disc Combo Model UH10LS20 LightScribe Support Newegg.com - LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Disc Combo Model UH10LS20 LightScribe Support - Blu-Ray Drives Last edited by Aron0067; 02-27-2011 at 12:36 AM. Reason: put wrong hard drive |
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02-27-2011, 12:43 AM
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For gaming, yes, any 6-core processor is overkill. For games it's the video card that matters most. I didn't want to jump in and tell you this before because you mention that you also want this rig for school, so now I have to ask: what productivity software are you going to be running? Depending on your answer I'll base my video card recomendation as well. If it's just MS Office and the like, I'd say that video card is fine and that all you need is a quad-core at the most. If you're using anything Adobe such as Photoshop, then the 6-core will help you and you also need to buy an nVidia video card.
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02-27-2011, 06:15 AM
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You need to buy ram in matched pair sets - I'd recommend a 2gb x2 kit.
For gaming, go stronger on the video card and less on the processor. Best Gaming CPUs For The Money: February 2011 : February Updates |
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02-27-2011, 08:31 AM
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02-27-2011, 09:23 AM
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Good choices. For a video card, look at a GTX460 1GB.
Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card |
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02-27-2011, 09:51 AM
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Alright I am going to post everything its a couple dollars over budget but it will work although my main questions are can the motherboard handle the graphics card and processor and does everything fit in the case (since I changed cases) and also how future proof is this pc
OS Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders APEVIA X-TELSTAR-JR G-Type X-TSJGT-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Newegg.com - APEVIA X-TELSTAR-JR G-Type X-TSJGT-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/4GR Newegg.com - Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/4GR AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply ASUS M4A78LT-M AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS M4A78LT-M AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Last edited by Aron0067; 02-27-2011 at 10:24 AM. |
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02-27-2011, 10:51 AM
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A Mid-ATX should let it fit.
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02-27-2011, 10:55 AM
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I see you have selected a micro ATX form factor motherboard. Any reason for this choice? Take a look at this particular Asus board. The board is ATX form factor and has additional slots for upgrades in the future. Also, with the rebate and free shipping, the board comes in cheaper.
Newegg.com - ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard Also, you can look at with Corsair ram. The rebate makes the ram $39.99 Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 Extreme
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02-27-2011, 11:42 AM
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When I was searching the site I didn't see that motherboard but I am also concerned about space I know the case form factor is atx but I was thinking I would have more room to work with a micro atx motherboard although if the graphics card would fit in the case with that motherboard I might use it
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02-27-2011, 11:54 AM
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Working with a standard ATX board is no problem in any midtower case.
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02-27-2011, 12:11 PM
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alright then I will instead go with the motherboard and ram Extremerc12 suggested but will everything fit in the case
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02-27-2011, 12:45 PM
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Your question is really directly related to the video card. All your other components will fit with ease regardless. So to answer your question, everything should fit with ease. It appears that the video card may ride up close to the drive bays, but you can always drop the harddrive lower. Let me throw some dimensions at you so you will see my thought process.
The case itself is 20.00" x 7.75" x 16.75" The video card is 9.8" x 5.03" As per the case specs, Fits Motherboard Size up to 11" x 12" With that in mind, the card will fit, albeit not with inches and inches of extra room like a full case, but it will fit. Extreme |
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02-27-2011, 01:26 PM
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The main concern with the mobo and the videocard is whether the video card will block the serial ATA ports, which in the case of the mobo Extremerc12 suggested is not a problem. That mobo has a neat design.
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02-27-2011, 04:45 PM
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That MOBO still has only 1 PCIE2 slot. If you never will want the possibility of using 2 graphics cards, then fine, but then you could probably also shave a few bucks and cut down the PSU a notch, and make the fewer unused cables a little easier to manage/hide.
Newegg.com - SILVERSTONE ST50F-ES 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply just looking at the pic though, this silverstone's cables are not nearly as well sleeved, and some appear to be absent sleeving, compared to the Corsair's which are very neatly and fully sleeved (and more of them) I have the Corsair, very nice, and xtra long cabling, but had to tuck several long and unused cables away. Alot of excess capacity for me, as of now. It wasn't any big deal at all in my very big case though, and I am very pleased with it. |
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02-27-2011, 05:53 PM
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Something to keep in mind, the difference between ATX and micro ATX is not in the width of the board (both are 9.6"), but in the height ATX=12" micro = 9.6" so that the ATX will set up about 1/2" or so off the bottom of your case, and the micro about 3" off the bottom, and where that extra space does not really help very much, IMO, it's pretty much wasted excess space in an ATX case. Last edited by bigsully; 02-27-2011 at 06:09 PM. |
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02-28-2011, 09:46 PM
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I think I wll stick with the psu I have but my last question is am I better off getting this video card rather than the one I posted above since it's just $10 more Or should I just stick with the previous one
Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card And I am going with the atx motherboard rather than the micro Last edited by Aron0067; 02-28-2011 at 09:49 PM. |
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02-28-2011, 10:20 PM
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The pricier one is essentially the same card, it just happens to have a few extras whose usefulness in real life scenarios may be debatable.
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more! Looking at that comparison these are the "advantages" that the pricier one has over the other: Free StarCraft II Experience Coupon GeForce CUDA Technology *** NVIDIA PhysX ready ASUS Splendid ASUS Gamer OSD ASUS Smart Doctor Take Your Game Beyond HD Fuse Protection EMI Shield GPU Guard Unless you're interested in Starcraft, there's little that 10 extra dollars get you. ***Notice this item. This is missing from the description of the cheaper card: this is a marketing gimmick and it's misleading, because both cards support CUDA and have the same number of CUDA cores. This gimmick alone leads me even more to think that there's little that the pricier card offers over the cheaper one. |
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03-01-2011, 12:42 AM
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The clock and memory speeds are higher on the more expensive card. It's well worth the $10 in my opinion.
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03-01-2011, 01:14 AM
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Weird, the speeds are the same in the comparison I looked at. Maybe I chose the wrong card. What with links from newegg not opening in my systems and all, I had to go to the page and conduct a search myself. Since there seems to be no solution to this dpvolvw redirection thing, maybe we should ask people to post the SKUs.
If so, then yeah, 10 bux is well worth it. |
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03-01-2011, 11:14 AM
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03-05-2011, 03:25 PM
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Omit the G.skill memory and we might have a winner.
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03-09-2011, 09:19 PM
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sorry for my absence and sorry for asking these questions again but I have been looking around and my entire computer setup has changed almost entirely here is my new build the only problem is the motherboard is out of stock and the ram that is approved by the asus website that I could find came in packs of one and I was having trouble deciding between an asus engtx 560 card or the msi and does everything work
XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W XXX Edition Modular Power Supply - ATX, 650-Watt, Modular, 80 Plus Bronze, 135mm Fan. "Hard-Core Gamer Compatible" XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W XXX Edition Modular Power Supply - ATX, 650-Watt, Modular, 80 Plus Bronze, 135mm Fan. Hard-Core Gamer Compatible at TigerDirect.com ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9/2G Newegg.com - Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9/2G APEVIA X-JUPITER-JR G-Type X-JPJGT-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Newegg.com - APEVIA X-JUPITER-JR G-Type X-JPJGT-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case APEVIA CF12SL-UBL 120mm Blue LED Case Fan Newegg.com - APEVIA CF12SL-UBL 120mm Blue LED Case Fan MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Newegg.com - MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - CD / DVD Burners Os: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM Last edited by Aron0067; 03-09-2011 at 09:23 PM. |
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03-09-2011, 09:37 PM
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You're asking for trouble, going with XFX and MSI.
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03-10-2011, 03:14 PM
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Power supply:
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply Video card: Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Memory: Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9 |
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