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03-01-2011, 06:27 PM
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need advice on new build
I don't have a budget but I don't need anything too special. I am a casual gamer. Here are some parts I have picked so far:
processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ ram: Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB DDR2 hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM I need a motherboard, power supply, and graphics card. Any advice? I am willing to go overboard on the graphics card and spend around $250 but I want to pay for the speed and not features that I wont be using. I especially need advice on the motherboard. Thanks! |
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03-01-2011, 07:19 PM
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I would recommend you pick a DDR3 motherboard and get DDR3 ram. I don't do AMD recommendations, but it should be an Asus.
Video card and PSU: Newegg.com - HIS H695FN1G2M Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity -OR- Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Newegg.com - Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply |
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03-02-2011, 12:30 AM
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thanks for the info. Those graphics cards like good. I will look into the ddr3
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03-02-2011, 07:29 AM
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The motherboard is rock solid stable
ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/4GR Newegg.com - Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/4GR or you can go with 8 GB memory Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148347 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121424 Quote:
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03-02-2011, 09:11 AM
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The Corsair was not in stock yesterday - just shows how fast things change. That's why I recommended the Antec instead.
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03-02-2011, 10:46 AM
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Ok I am a little hung up on the graphics card.
Newegg.com - HIS H695FN1G2M Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...SID=e3us9ec89w are both similarly priced. One has a much faster memory clock and a slightly faster core clock. Does that mean the Asus is the best? When I compair numbers, this graphics card doesn't look too different to me on paper. Is there something I am not seeing or why is this card so much cheaper? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131330 |
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03-02-2011, 12:35 PM
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The Asus is factory overclocked. The 5770 isn't even in the same class as a 6950. The clocks may be similar, but it has half the memory bandwidth and a much weaker GPU.
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03-02-2011, 07:02 PM
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ok that makes cense. Ok, another question. Here are my two picks. Would you spend $20 for the first graphics card over the bottom one. Its probably a speed boost but maybe the brand isn't as good?
Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950 800MHZ 2GB 5GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI Display Port PCI-E DIRECTX11 Video Card - DirectCanada or HIS Radeon HD 6870 Turbo 1GB GDDR5 2XDVI 2XMINI DisplayPort HDMI PCI-E Video Card - DirectCanada |
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03-02-2011, 08:56 PM
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Oh, you are in Canada? Same card I linked on the US site:
Newegg.ca - HIS H695FN1G2M Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply |
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03-02-2011, 10:16 PM
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The 6950 has many more processing cores and is the better choice. HIS has better customer support as it has an advantage but the driver with the nvidia is better.
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03-02-2011, 10:43 PM
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Ok I think I will go with the 6950. The Gigabyte brand is the same price as the powercolor brand. Are they both the same or is one generally preferred?
Now all I need to choose are the power supply and drives. thanks for the help so far! |
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03-02-2011, 10:47 PM
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Check with ncix.com for the same hardware. Ncix is Canadian and ships faster, and they'll match newegg's price in case it's cheaper.
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03-02-2011, 11:24 PM
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directcanada is honestly the cheapest place I have seen in Canada, sometimes even cheaper than newegg. I also like them since they are based in my province so they ship fast to me. I built my last rig from this site and I was happy with it. I would recommend.
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03-03-2011, 12:22 AM
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DirectCanada is from the same chain as Ncix and NXSource (they're all Netlink Computers). DirectCanda handles the outlet and surplus I think.
Check their addys: Ncix: http://www.ncix.com/contact/ DC: http://www.directcanada.com/contact/ |
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03-03-2011, 12:41 AM
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Nobody else in Canada has a 6950 as cheap as the HIS at Newegg. I looked!
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03-03-2011, 12:55 AM
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That's why I suggested price match.
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03-03-2011, 02:40 AM
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ok ok, ill give you that. some things are cheaper though, including the card I am starting to settle on.
Newegg.ca - GIGABYTE GV-R695D5-2GD-B Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950 800MHZ 2GB 5GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI Display Port PCI-E DIRECTX11 Video Card - DirectCanada the processor I have picked out is also cheaper on directcanada. But I do know that in the past I have always been envious of your newegg. I do know they have an amazing track record for prices. |
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03-03-2011, 11:30 AM
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My last pair of links were for newegg.ca - you CAN order from them!
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03-03-2011, 01:51 PM
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Newegg is a good online store and has great selection, sometimes being the only ones carrying a certain product. Their service is excellent. I only recommend ncix over them for two reasons: 1) newegg dispatches from the US, so parcels take longer (about a week) to arrive; and 2) whenever I'm presented with the choice of buying from a Canadian company or a US company I'll always choose the Canadian one (I'm a patriot), even if that represents paying a mite more. That's all, it's not that I hate newegg or anything.
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03-03-2011, 07:51 PM
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ok I didn't notice that you switched to newegg.ca didn't even know they existed >_<
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03-04-2011, 12:26 AM
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new question. Should I be interested in getting a modular power supply since I am only using one hard drive, graphics card, dvd drive? Would it eliminate alot of wires?
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03-04-2011, 01:14 AM
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Good cable management can take care of it, but yes, a modular would make things easier. Your choice really. I'll let G suggest a good modular unit, as I've never liked modulars.
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03-04-2011, 09:43 AM
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Corsair HX series modulars. I don't have one yet, but I'm going for a Corsair 650 HX this year at glc's advice.
I'm debating on getting an AX750 for the reliability of Corsair's Pro series, but either will come with a 7 year warranty.
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03-04-2011, 10:27 AM
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I do like the Corsair HX series modulars - but if you are trying to keep the cost down, the Antec BP550 Plus is a decent unit.
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03-04-2011, 10:48 AM
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Important note:
Someone repeating an expert's advice is NOT the same as getting advice from an expert.  Thanks glc for reminding me.
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03-06-2011, 11:59 AM
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should I buy 1 or 2 of these sticks? Do you think they will be good?
Corsair CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 Vengeance 4GB 1X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory - DirectCanada or should I just buy the cheaper value ram? http://www.directcanada.com/products...cture=KINGSTON Last edited by nopizza; 03-06-2011 at 12:05 PM. |
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03-06-2011, 12:47 PM
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Buy dual channel ram kits, not single modules. Anything faster than 1333 is a waste unless you will be heavily overclocking.
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03-06-2011, 01:55 PM
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Ok I think I have it. Tell me what you think of this rig.
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W - $139 ASUS M4A77TD ATX AM3 DDR3 AMD770 SB710 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI IDE 6SATA Sound GBLAN Motherboard - $76 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM - $79 Antec Truepower New 650W Modular Power Supply ATX12V V2.3 Active PFC 80 Plus SLI Ready 120MM PWM Fan -$79 Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1333 CL9 240-PIN SDRAM - $85 ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black - $17 Powercolor Radeon HD 6950 800MHZ 2GB 5.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI 2XMINI Display Port PCI-E Video Card - $275 total cost: $750 as far as I know the only other things I will need are monitor and case but I might wait on those. Is this a good build for the money? |
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03-06-2011, 02:06 PM
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You also need an OS.
Wait on the case? Where are you going to put the computer? |
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03-06-2011, 02:28 PM
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good point. add $100 for windows 7 home premium.
I am thinking about finding an oldschool case, painting it, gutting it of all plastic, and maybe getting a piece of acrylic made for the side panel. |
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