OK - I did it

[SARGE]

Newegg.com - ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

I see no point in waiting for April or to be the number 68 person from here who ordered. Someone's gotta go first or be in the first group at least, right? And besides, if Asus feels ok with this one, and you gotta know they had their fellers working 24/7 since the snag occurred, then why not? I don't see a magic window of opportunity in April versus now.

So, I got the Sabertooth coming from Newegg. Yeah, there may be a snag and some BIOS updates in future, but I trust Asus thanks to glc. They are the best until proven otherwise. And to o/c this monster will be fun. As for $$, true, I tend to spend when I should just sit and be happy. I tried every copy of Win7 and even have a Barracuda XT 7200rpm which is a joke next to my Crucial SSD C300. I just had to buy and compare. As an aside, the $$ I spend on this stuff is nothing compared to what I did on my former addiction, a self-destructive one, train wreck in the modern terms. I beat that damn monster afterall. So, will build and see what happens.

[rwest]

When you got the bug -you got the bug....No helping it.

If ya gotta be a guinea pig , at least you got an Asus board to work with. But like you, I doubt you'll have any problems. They're not gonna release a board that's already been recalled once. How foolish would that be? I'd bet the board has been tested thrice times twelve and thru the woods we go.

You'll have to post some bench scores when you get her built.

[Deathdiesel]

Whoa, weird looking board, caught me off gaurd haha. Post your specs man, should be interesting.

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by Deathdiesel Whoa, weird looking board, caught me off gaurd haha. Post your specs man, should be interesting.

Yeah weird looking. It's all about the cooling. If it works, Asus hits a homerun and then some.

[rwest]

Sarge I don't see how all that plastic helps with cooling. If anything, I would suspect it hinders cooling. It's probably more for asthetics and protective measures.

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by rwest Sarge I don't see how all that plastic helps with cooling. If anything, I would suspect it hinders cooling. It's probably more for asthetics and protective measures.

http://www.slashgear.com/asus-sabert...over-15114069/

Me either. Evidently Asus is banking on it though. First paragraph sorta sums it up. A huge change for a mobo design. But their dudes are first-rate. I play Craps at casino. A 7 is always there and odds are for it which is why the house wins. But we can win too.

[jdeb]

Originally Posted by SARGE Yeah weird looking. It's all about the cooling. If it works, Asus hits a homerun and then some.

I just received my replacement board for the father in laws build. It really does work for cooling, it is not a gimmic. Excellent design. He was not a happy camper when he gave it back because he was not having any issues with it. The soldering on this board is a thing of beauty. Everything about this board is quality.

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by jdeb I just received my replacement board for the father in laws build. It really does work for cooling, it is not a gimmic. Excellent design. He was not a happy camper when he gave it back because he was not having any issues with it. The soldering on this board is a thing of beauty. Everything about this board is quality.

Asus.

[glc]

Sarge, you also have to get a new CPU. It's a different socket than what you have.

Newegg.com - Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

Note the $15 off promo code if you order by the 15th.

[SARGE]

Just wonder if should get something besides the stock cooler, but it's probably sufficient. I'll for sure o/c it

[David M]

Cool looking board. I hope the covers are removable so it can be blown clean, 3.3 voltage rail checked and inspected for bad capacitors or burn spots.

[David M]

Originally Posted by SARGE Just wonder if should get something besides the stock cooler, but it's probably sufficient. I'll for sure o/c it

For overclocking where you need to start applying a higher voltage you will not get very far with the stock cooler. There are some very efficient and inexpensive aftermarket coolers. For the software in the BIOS that does the mild automatic overclocking, you will have to see. I would give that a try first and see where your temperatures under a load are, then consider an aftermarket cooler.

[glc]

Looks like it will go to 4.2 with stock cooler and 4.5+ with aftermarket.

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by David M For overclocking where you need to start applying a higher voltage you will not get very far with the stock cooler. There are some very efficient and inexpensive aftermarket coolers. For the software in the BIOS that does the mild automatic overclocking, you will have to see. I would give that a try first and see where your temperatures under a load are, then consider an aftermarket cooler.

That's why wondering if should go with another, and keep from having to pull the cooler, clean the goop off, reapply more goop, and the part that always makes me skittish - pushing the dang 4 fingers into the board to hold in place. Seems like am going to snap the board.

I was walking around at Fry's and mucho cpu coolers, most say "1156 ready" and some AMD ready stuff. This being an 1155, is there maybe a connection difference for the fan?

[glc]

You should always install a 4 pin cooler with the board out of the case.

Hold off on an aftermarket cooler till you really need it.

This is one of the better aftermarket units out there:

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

[birddog_61]

Its entirely up to you, but like GLC said don't install the cooler with it in the case. For that reason if I think I might be going to OC I always just go ahead and buy the cooler that I want and install it from the start, that way I don't have to pull everything out and re install again. How far are you planning on OC this, do you plan and taking it to its limits and then backing down a notch or just a mild OC to around 4.0-4.2?

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by glc You should always install a 4 pin cooler with the board out of the case. Hold off on an aftermarket cooler till you really need it. This is one of the better aftermarket units out there: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

From one of the reviews: "Cons: The heatsink is quite tall, so your computer case must be wide enough to accommodate the total height of this product, probably eight inches minimum. If your case does not allow easy access to the back of your motherboard, then you'll have to remove your motherboard from your case to allow you to install the necessary mounting plate on the back.

Other Thoughts: I just wanted a quieter solution then the stock fan that came with my AMD CPU which sounded like a small tech vacuum cleaner. This Hyper 212 Plus is perfect for this! Its quiet, cools better than the stock cooler (which is quite good in that respect), and best of all comparatively inexpensive. Just be sure it will fit in your case before you buy."

8 inches clearance? Plus so many pieces to assemble. You're right - stick with stock.

[jdeb]

Originally Posted by SARGE From one of the reviews: "Cons: The heatsink is quite tall, so your computer case must be wide enough to accommodate the total height of this product, probably eight inches minimum. If your case does not allow easy access to the back of your motherboard, then you'll have to remove your motherboard from your case to allow you to install the necessary mounting plate on the back. Other Thoughts: I just wanted a quieter solution then the stock fan that came with my AMD CPU which sounded like a small tech vacuum cleaner. This Hyper 212 Plus is perfect for this! Its quiet, cools better than the stock cooler (which is quite good in that respect), and best of all comparatively inexpensive. Just be sure it will fit in your case before you buy." 8 inches clearance? Plus so many pieces to assemble. You're right - stick with stock.

That is a great cooler, that is the one I use when not going with a stock one.

[glc]

Supposedly there are coolers that are even better - maybe Birddog can elaborate, he's an overclocking enthusiast.

[birddog_61]

The mounting system has not changed from 1156 to 1155 its exactly the same so any cooler that will fit one will fit the other. The hyper 212 is a great cooler especially for the price, its for sure not the best but its hard to beat for under 30$.
Spire Intel LGA775 Heatsink Temperature Comparisons - Eclipse II SP984B1-V2 FrostyTech Review
Now the best cooler on the market at this time(tuniq) requires 15" of clearance which I think is a little ridiculous. Now the noctua nh-d14 is only 6.3" tall but its very wide and can be a problem with memory with large heatsinks. The thermaltake Frio is probably my choice right now, its 47$ from newegg its not ridiculously big and it cools with the best of them, the only negative is its louder.

[glc]

Now - what coolers does Fry's carry? Sarge would much rather go pick stuff up from a questionable retailer than order from a reputable online vendor.

[birddog_61]

Originally Posted by glc Now - what coolers does Fry's carry? Sarge would much rather go pick stuff up from a questionable retailer than order from a reputable online vendor.

HAHA here you go.
Micro Center - Thermaltake Frio Overclocking-Ready Intel & AMD Universal CPU Cooler CLP0564

FRYS.com*|*Thermaltake

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by glc Now - what coolers does Fry's carry? Sarge would much rather go pick stuff up from a questionable retailer than order from a reputable online vendor.

Now wait a sec...I got my entire last build from Newegg, case and psu included along with a great Crucial ssd 300 and adapter and ordered each item per recommends. I did can the Ripjaws and got Kingston at Fry's. I like to see stuff on the shelf and realize not all fellers live 5 minutes from a Microcenter, Best Buy or Frys as I do. Fry's carries all the things we talk about here including mobos, psu, ram, cases galore, hard drives, etc. I have tons of stuff from there and never took anything back but is an easy task at front door if had to. All name brand stuff. To me that beats an RMA in the mail. There is a pc shop I've gotten things from b4, like a new mobo and cpu a few years ago. They always installed the cpu, heatsink and tested b4 I walked out. There is an advantage to buying local when a feller can. Lastly, Fry's has an entire long shelf with coolers, the price tags scare me - up to $120 plus, if I remember. I even saw a few cans of coolant, like I'd put in my radiator. What's that all about?

If they had what I just ordered, I'd got it from them. Makes sense to keep it local.

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by birddog_61 HAHA here you go. Micro Center - Thermaltake Frio Overclocking-Ready Intel & AMD Universal CPU Cooler CLP0564 FRYS.com*|*Thermaltake

Thank you for making my case. One is 5 minutes away, other 20. And if it's too big and doesn't fit, I can take it back and get something else or refund. Face-to-face, customer service. However, if you scroll down to the last pic, it's a scary monster with lots of parts. I assume it has to be assembled piece by piece as shown, or does it come ready-to-go?

[birddog_61]

I wish I was that close, its a 2.5 hour drive to the richardson microcenter for me. If I lived that close I would be broke and probably divorced so its probably a good thing I don't.

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by birddog_61 I wish I was that close, its a 2.5 hour drive to the richardson microcenter for me. If I lived that close I would be broke and probably divorced so its probably a good thing I don't.

Yeah, it's like a kid walking into Toys 'R Us, ain't it? So many toys and we always see something we can't live without. I hear noise about Fry's and retailers versus online and take it with a grain of salt. I figure a mobo, harddrive, ram, etc., is same no matter where you get it. Important part is return policy. And you get to window shop and actually see and touch some things. Now there is a white case - rare, and it has what looks like a ceiling fan on the side and top, and a swing-out door. Awesome.

You are right. Best to leave the plastic at home.

[birddog_61]

I forgot to add that the Frio cooler does not have PWM fans and has a two speed fan controller, I thought it had been changed but apparently they are sticking with that design. If you don't mind not having PWM fans then its a great cooler, I prefer PWM but it does not bother some people. If your going to buy from frys or microcenter your best bet is probably the 212, if your ordering from newegg then there are other choices.

[rwest]

The Hyper 212 dropped my AMD Calisto core from 40 to 30 degrees celcius. Best 30 bucks I spent. Got my cpu stable at 4 cores. Its very easy to install. The newegg page even provides a video. It looks intimidating because of its vesatile capabilities. They even provide a bracket if you want to install a second fan on the otherside for a push-pull air flow. I didn't think that was neccessary though.

Yeh, I got a Micro Center bout 10-12 miles away, but it's currently like going thru a hornets nest getting there. If columbus would quit tryinhg to recconstuct 315 every year, it'd be worth going more often. Every time I go I always spend way too much time. My excuse has always been, "but honey, I hardly ever get to go"

[David M]

I always spend more time in Fry's than I thought I was going to. There is plenty to look at. I try not to take anyone because they always get impatient with me looking at stuff that bores them.

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by David M I always spend more time in Fry's that I thought I was going to. There is plenty to look at. I try not to take anyone because they always get impatient with me looking at stuff that bores them.

I heard that. Gal bud refuses to go with me, but insists I go to Target and Whole Foods with her. Go figure.