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Old 03-15-2011, 06:16 PM   #1
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Clean Slate PCbuild

This is the first time I have had the drive and cash to do this kind of project. I have taken apart prebuilts and installed new parts but never a whole rig. I have a friend who programs and builds for a living so that part will be no problem hopefully lol. Really came here to ask if my build was up to snuff or if there were some things that I could change to make it better.

1 Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Model #:Nine Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129021

1 HITACHI Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723020BLA642 (0f12115) 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:0f12115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145473

1 SNT 23" 2 x 7-pin SATA Cable for SATA I / II hard drive Model CABLE-SATA23D7 - OEM Model CABLE-SATA23D7 - OEM
Model #:CABLE-SATA23D7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812719003

1 CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMP8GX3M2B1333C9
Model #:CMP8GX3M2B1333C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145340

1 ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #:M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131646

1 GIGABYTE GV-R695D5-2GD-B Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with ...
Model #:GV-R695D5-2GD-B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125356

1 CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CMPSU-850HX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139011

1 AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX
Model #:HDT90ZFBGRBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103849

Subtotal: $1,094.42

Thought about going ahead and Crossfiring the 6950 really hoping this will be able to put out near max settings once Crysis 2 comes out

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Old 03-15-2011, 06:48 PM   #2
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I'd recommend a Western Digital Black instead of that Hitachi. You don't need that SATA cable, motherboards come with at least 2. You are missing an optical drive, get whatever DVD burner is on free shipping this week.
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:51 PM   #3
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No card or dual cards will be able to Max out Crysis 2, it is going to be the new benchmark game, dual 6970s in xfire couldn't push the original Crysis at max.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:50 PM   #4
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Should I worry about temps with a smaller case and that Phenom IIx6? Maybe a liquid cooling system or just go with a fast quad core from AMD?

Secondly my goof on that optical drive and your saying I couldnt run the original crysis on max settings with this machine?
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:51 PM   #5
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As long as your CPU is relatively new, it will be your graphics card that is the speed limit for Crysis 2. Think 580 or 6970.

Hopefully the Crysis 2 Crytec engine will be the more efficient engine they used for Crysis Warhead. If not they are limiting their market to people who have $1500 plus gaming rigs or don't mind playing at Mario Brothers resolutions.

It will be interesting to see if Crysis 2 can fully utilize a quad core. Does anyone know?
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:22 PM   #6
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Is the 6970 2gb that much better than the 6950 2gb...I want a future proof system and I know that isnt asking much time with a pc build..but atleast the only thing I would have to replace in the next couple years would be my gpu
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:43 AM   #7
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Is the 6970 2gb that much better than the 6950 2gb
On a percentage basis there is not much difference. It looks like about 12% in 3DMark11-Gamer and a 9% difference in Alien vs Predator. But then that's how it is with higher end graphics cards, with price the performance increases but at a decreasing rate where the curve starts getting closer to flat, compared to the less expensive cards which have a steeper (better) performance/price curve.

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Old 03-16-2011, 11:13 AM   #8
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Unless you pvp, 1 6950 with any Current Dual Core higher than 2.5Ghz with 1MB L2 Cache or better will do the job and do it well.
If you pvp then sky is the limit.
PVP = Player vs. Player gaming!
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:55 PM   #9
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Updated my build a little bit..going to order later tonight or tomorrow.

Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Model #:Twelve Hundred V3
Item #:N82E16811129100
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SAPPHIRE 100311BFVSR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Model #:100311BFVSR
Item #:N82E16814102916
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100311BFVSR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

LITE-ON Black 4X Blu-ray Reader SATA Model iHOS104-06 - OEM
Model #:iHOS104-06
Item #:N82E16827106325
Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 4X BD-ROM 8X DVD-ROM 32X CD-ROM SATA Internal 4X Blu-ray Reader Model iHOS104-06 - Blu-Ray Drives


Final total for the build is 1300-1400..with shipping and taxes. Decided that I wanted to go Full Tower..out of concern with cooling and airflow. Switched GPUs out in what I thought was upgrade..opinions? Finally..got that opti drive so that I can actually install my games lol
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:05 PM   #10
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Did you switch out the hard drive?
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:21 PM   #11
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Yes I did but not to that model WD..the reviews I had read on newegg gave me doubts about it. I am really excited about this..hopefully I get my new reward card tomorrow..I want the cash back..but if not I will just buy all parts outright!

The only real thing I am worried about putting this bad boy together is the CPU/Mobo and getting all the wires cleaned up to make this look good on the inside and out.

Also Thanks to everyone for your help..other forums I have ventured to before I got serious about actually building were far less helpful..and far less kind about it lol
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Take online reviews with a grain of salt. The pros here know better than many of those.
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:10 PM   #13
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Hahaha thanks Quartet..funny you live in the same state as me..what part of Indiana do you live in? If you dont mind me asking lol
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:09 PM   #14
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Finally ordered my parts and they are on the way! Arrival should be 2-3 days..but expecting Friday at the latest. Will be posting pics of the unboxing and hopefully my working rig X) !

This is my revised build list..with suggestions I gathered from all who have helped. Many Thanks for your support and tuteladge



ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard


SNT 23" 2 x 7-pin SATA Cable for SATA I / II hard drive Model CABLE-SATA23D7 - OEM Model CABLE-SATA23D7 - OEM


AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX


HIS H697FT2G2M Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity


Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case


Nippon Labs Premium 0.5M (1.64 ft.) SATA Cable with 1 Right Angle Connector for SATA I and SATA II Hard Drive Model SATA-0.5MR

CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMP8GX3M2B1333C9

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:04 PM   #15
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Why did you order SATA cables?
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:01 PM   #16
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Backups and just in case I didnt get enough. I know the Drive didnt come with or atleast I dont think. I dont have a previous computer to take from atleast not a custom built computer. Was making sure I had everything to complete the build when I get it =)
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of course I order two hard drive sata cables...doh
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The motherboard comes with 2 SATA cables.......................
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Old 03-26-2011, 01:03 PM   #19
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So far so good on my build!

Have gotten the Mobo mounted with cpu/heatsink installed along with the RAM and GPU. Installed the power supply and am now working on getting my drives installed then it will be making all the connections hiding the wires. Have had fun putting this build together. It has been frustrating and rewarding. I will post pics once all is done and showing the entire process!

Once again thanks to all the help on this forum!
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Old 03-26-2011, 01:15 PM   #20
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Before you go TOO far, I'd recommend you validate the core components:

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Old 03-28-2011, 10:50 PM   #21
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Finished my build yesterday morning and booted up the first time with no problems!...Hit a snag with Windows 7 install but that was and easy fix =) Everything is running great. Rift looks amazing. Crysis 2 is simply amazing and I am installing Starcraft 2 to see what I was missing on my old computer! Very fun experience cannot wait to do it again three years from now hopefully lol.

My final question for the gurus of the forum is what would be ideal core temps for my computer. When it is idling they stay at about 23 or 25*c. Running Crysis 2 which is what I have mainly been playing since finishing this build I get around 36*c to 38*c with my high point being 42*c. I am using Core Temp to gather this information..which is telling me my TJMax is 99*c. I read that 20*c less than that would be the max so I feel like my temps are not too hot..will consider replacing thermal compound if that would help.
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Your temperatures are PLENTY low enough.
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