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03-27-2011, 11:18 PM
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new rig, any changes/suggestions?
So, if anyone read my other thread I started, my gaming rigs PSU started frying components. So I'm left with replacing those components or just building a new rig. Luckily, I'm in a position to build a new one. So onto the build! I'm just gonna list the essentials, not the monitors, speakers or other peripherals.
PSU: Corsair Professional Series AX1200 Newegg.com - CORSAIR Professional Series AX1200 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply CPU: AMD Phenom 2 X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX HDD: WD Caviar Black 2TB 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive MOBO: Gigabyte ATX 6GB/s SATA USB 3.0 yadayada ... I know ASUS makes better mobos but I could not find an ASUS mobo with 16 GB RAM capability and 2 PCI x16 slots. Maybe I'm blind. Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard GPU: DIAMOND Radeon HD 5850 1GB DDR5 Newegg.com - DIAMOND 5850PE51G Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card RAM: CORSAIR Vengence 16GB (4X4 GB) 1866 DDR3 (link is for 8 GB but I'm getting 2 sets) Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9 Optical: Samsung Bluray/DVD/CD drive Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model SH-B123L LightScribe Support - Blu-Ray Drives Case: NZXT Phantom Full Tower (Getting the optional 200mm fan with it) Newegg.com - NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case Sound Card: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio Pci card Newegg.com - Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card That's all that will be in the tower, ordering some other peripherals along with it. My main question is wether or not these parts will work together, and work with Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. Also, are network cards better than the built in LAN on the motherboard as far as speed? Thanks for any input you guys have. I really appreciate it. |
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03-27-2011, 11:31 PM
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Why don't you first re-read your last post from previous thread, i.e, something about a video card?
Gaming rig having troubles "We put his video card and power supply on my motherboard with my ram and processor a stick of his ram , and the computer booted right up..."! "just to make sure that was the ONLY problem, I left his PSU and ram in the comp, and put my video card back in. Computer didn't start... " Win7-64 will work. Have only used onboard LAN and it works and beats having a card to fool with.
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03-27-2011, 11:34 PM
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What about the video card? The cards I had in my last rig were both NVIDIA (8800GT and 250GTS) and the rig before that was NVIDIA (drawing a blank on the card). Why does that have anything to do with this one? |
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03-27-2011, 11:47 PM
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Just trying to take troubleshoot easy. Your writing, not mine:
""just to make sure that was the ONLY problem, I left his PSU and ram in the comp, and put my video card back in. Computer didn't start... " |
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03-27-2011, 11:52 PM
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03-28-2011, 12:02 AM
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03-28-2011, 12:09 AM
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Either way it would work. But I still dont get what the video card statement about my last thread was about...Maybe I'm retarded.
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03-28-2011, 12:14 AM
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03-28-2011, 12:19 AM
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oh mmks. so good comp? any suggestions?
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03-28-2011, 12:23 AM
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Go for it.
 PSU could light up my house, but if you got the bucks...Overkill imo
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03-28-2011, 12:45 AM
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1200w is way overkill for a single video card, but Corsair is a good brand.
Other ASUS boards: M4A89TD PRO Crosshair IV Formula M4A88TD-V EVO M4AA87TD EVO 1866 speed DDR3 is unnecessary, and you'll have to OC to even get the marginal performance increase. If you're going to OC anyways, then you don't need to spend an extra $30 on the 1100T, the 1090T gets to 4GHz on a variety of setups. Also, what software are you using that you'll need more than 8 GB RAM? Sound Card is considered unnecessary, onboard audio is really good nowadays. I won't speak on the quality of your video card, optical drive or case, I don't have any experience with Diamond, Samsung (optical drives), or NZXT. EDIT: What is the main purpose of this computer? What is the budget? You could be spending money on the less important components, but then again, you've already picked some very pricey (and high quality) components.
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03-28-2011, 12:59 AM
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03-28-2011, 09:43 AM
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A quality 850 watt PSU will power the vast majority of two card setups out there. Two cards drawing up around 300 or more watts each might require a larger PSU. There are very few cards like that out there. To justify having two cards like that means you would have multiple monitors.
Overclocked RAM at best will increase a computers overall speed by roughly around 3%. Overclocked RAM can cause system instability. I don't think the benefit/cost-instability ratio makes it worth it. Buy two 4 gig sticks of 1.5 volt 1333 or 1600 RAM for now and if you ever find out you are close to running out of RAM then buy another two sticks. This way you will not have to replace the RAM you already have. Onboard LAN is plenty fast. I only bought a gamers NIC card as insurance about my internet connection not being slowed down by packets other than my game packets while in multiplayer games. There is debate over whether or not it makes any difference for multiplayer gaming. In tests people have noticed no difference. I just have it as I said as insurance that nothing else will take priority over my internet connection while gaming. It's the last thing a hard core gamer would want to purchase. Longevity is difficult to predict beyond about two years because there is almost no predicting what will be available then and what hardware the applications that you have in the future will require. There is a difference between being able to expand and longevity. Expansion and future upgrading is easy to set up for, longevity is impossible to predict.
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03-29-2011, 11:40 PM
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i have just one question about that build glc... the video card is a pci express 2.1...the mobo says it has pci express 2.0 slots...will a 2.1 card work in a 2.0 slot?
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03-29-2011, 11:43 PM
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Other than that question...I like that build...for about the same price it has a better video card...my only gripe with it is no onboard video but thats easily overcome.
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03-29-2011, 11:51 PM
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2.1 cards are compatible with 2.0 slots. I asked the same question recently.
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03-30-2011, 12:03 AM
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so one last question...along with the computer i have 2 monitors im buying with it. a 23" and 20". ill post the links below. will that video card that glc mentioned be fine to run both monitors? i plan on using the 23" to show the game and the 20" solely for computer stat programs (cpu/gpu usage, temperatures, fan rpms, etc) and for having guides or forums up while i play. i would think that that good of a video card could run both of these like that, but i just want some others opinions on it.
23" 2ms Full HD LED recommended resolution 1920x1080 Newegg.com - Samsung PX2370 23" 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LCD Monitor Slim Design 250 cd /m2 DCR 5,000,000:1 (1000:1) 20" NEC 20" 5ms LED recommended resolution 1600x900 Newegg.com - NEC Display Solutions E201W-BK Black 20" 5ms Height,Swivel & Pivot Adjustable LED BackLight LCD Monitor 250cd/m2 1000:1 |
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03-30-2011, 04:40 AM
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Why would you want onboard video when you are getting a card?
Both monitors come with DVI cables - why are you buying cables? Windows 7 Ultimate Full is a big waste of money. Home Premium OEM is all you need unless you need support for more than 16gb ram. Unless you are going to be heavily overclocking, you don't need that aftermarket cooler. You don't need a network card unless you have to go wireless. The motherboard has onboard Ethernet and a wired connection is ALWAYS preferred. |
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03-30-2011, 02:59 PM
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03-30-2011, 04:24 PM
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Your money would be better spent on a top quality router with 10/100/1000 ports. The onboard 10/100/1000 adapters work very well.
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03-30-2011, 09:10 PM
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I have an apple airpot extreme right now...but for the life of me i cannot find the box or any tech specs on it that give ethernet port specs, just that there are 3 of them. works fine on my ps3 and 360 though
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03-30-2011, 09:20 PM
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Good lord man, spending a lot on peripherals alone. Oughta go to cheaper brands than razer, then upgrade your GPU. 35$ mouse pad..130$ keyboard. I mean if you feel thats nessecary than by all means, i just would never spend that money on peripherals. Also if your main purpose is gaming for this PC then forget the 1100 AMD, the i5 2500k CPU blows it away in almost every situation, and for the few it loses on bench, it more than makes up for it on everything else.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=288 Also, for your monitors. Why not get these two if you want the different response time, cheaper and bigger. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236052 -5ms http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236049 -2ms And agreed with GLC on the coolers, unless your OCing like hell, you wont need it. Last edited by Deathdiesel; 03-30-2011 at 09:35 PM. |
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03-31-2011, 02:51 PM
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I have two ASUS VW246H, and they are great, for the size and the price range.
One arrived with dead pixels in the corner of the screen. ASUS took care of it quickly, free (ground) shipping each way. |
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