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Build help with some personalized inquiries
Ok, so I mostly want a fast pc for browsing, watching videos, and limited gameplay, with no overclocking. I wanted to see if all of this stuff meshes and if it is good; I will also have some specific inquiries shortly. This is what I have so far:
Case: Newegg.com - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Mobo: Newegg.com - ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard CPU: Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500 Memory: Newegg.com - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL PS: Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply HDD: Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive I am not sure what to do about a graphics card. As I mentioned, I don't really game on the pc, but I watch 1080p videos and I would like to play a few games like Diablo 3, which I would assume aren't very graphics intensive. Likely, this will be the area where I could afford to save as much money as possible. Lastly, I won't be needing a keyboard, a mouse, or a disk drive, but I would like to upgrade my monitor. I have an eye disease, so I don't have much peripheral vision, thus I don't want a big monitor at all. I was looking at both: Newegg.com - ASUS VH197D Black 18.5" 1366 x 768 5ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ASCR 10,000,000 :1 and: Newegg.com - ASUS VE198T Black 19" 5ms LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 250 cd/m2 ASCR 10,000,000:1 Now, it seems to me that the only difference is that one is a half inch smaller, which if that is the case, I will go for the 18.5in one, as smaller is better for me. Any recommendation/suggestion are most welcome, I'm by no means an expert and am excited to see what I can do differently, thanks a bunch. |
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05-12-2011, 08:00 AM
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drop the RipJaws and use either Kingston, Corsair, Crucial, or Adata in ddr3 1333 and 1.5V. These are what I use
Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Newegg.com - Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/8G This is the video card I would use based on your need ASUS CuCore Series EAH5770 Newegg.com - ASUS CuCore Series EAH5770 CuCore/2DI/1GD5 Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card or if you prefer NVIDIA ASUS ENGTX460 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121390 Last edited by jdeb; 05-12-2011 at 08:14 AM. |
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05-12-2011, 08:38 AM
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I highly recommend the VE198T.
You don't need a "disk drive"? Do you mean an optical drive such as a DVD burner? Other than the ram, I concur with your choices. |
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05-12-2011, 11:03 AM
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I hope you all don’t mind a couple of ignorant questions...
1) Why do you recommend a graphics card over the Sandy Bridge on-chip video capabilities? 2) Why do you recommend 8 GB of memory vs 4? Thank-you! Jeri |
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05-12-2011, 11:28 AM
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You need an H67 board in order to take advantage of the on-chip graphics.
As far as the ram goes I imagine its because 8 gb will give you all you'll ever need. EDIT: If you plan on playing Diablo 3 with nice graphics and frame rate then you'll need an onboard GPU and 8 gbs of ram to be safe. Starcraft 2 recently came out and it still needed fairly good parts in order to run smoothly on anything above low/medium graphics. From what I've read on other cards and from my own experience so far the EVGA GTX 460 1gb is a great card for about $200. Last edited by Sourtop; 05-12-2011 at 11:46 AM. |
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05-12-2011, 01:22 PM
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05-12-2011, 06:03 PM
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Jesus, I thought a graphics card would be cheaper, maybe I have just been out of the game for too long. I have an Nvidia Geforce 7600 currently and I can play Titan Quest with full settings (I'm sure Diablo 3 will be more needy, but still). Anyhow, what's with the hate for Gskill ram? It has won customer choice awards and such and has the best ratings at Newegg. It is a serious question, I am uncertain as to the reasoning, no other card at 1333 has very good ratings comparatively.
And yes, I already have a DVD burner/drive. I suppose I will just take it and maybe my 250gig drive for C: out of my old pc and perhaps try to sell the parts individually; I'm not sure what to do with it exactly. Last edited by csice; 05-12-2011 at 06:06 PM. |
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05-12-2011, 06:32 PM
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We had several members have MAJOR issues with G.skill ram in Intel i3/i5/i7 boards last year. Hence, our recommendation for Corsair, Crucial, Kingston, or A-Data ram, those brands seem to be consistently compatible and reliable. We also have a member who is a professional builder with thousands of systems under his belt, and he has rated ram, motherboard, video card, and case brands.
Look here for Khalil's guide to the best computer hardware brands. The Radeon 5770 isn't that expensive, and note that Tom's article says that this is an excellent starting point for serious gamers. Your 7600 cost more than that when it was a current card. I wouldn't break up an old system, find a way to recycle the whole thing. Buy a new hard drive and DVD burner. |
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05-12-2011, 09:21 PM
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I do not hate GSkill "RipJaws" but the original problems started with the p55 chipset for me, anyway. Never got a real good answer from GSkill and they hung up on me when I brought up the suggestion of remarked chips, so I just stopped putting them in my builds. I can not stand to get a call about weird or hard to duplicate computer problems that are indicative of flaky RAM. When a PC is flaky, customers think you do not know what you are doing.
I recently tried (again) some Ripjaws after I let a customer talk me into it on a gaming build, they did not pass memtest 86+ after 16 hours, so I packed them up and shipped them back. I ordered Corsair (customer overclocking) Vengeance (I can't stand the heatsinks) but at lest they passed the test and are stable. For me, stability and reliability are number one. Bad memory causes strange problems. |
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05-13-2011, 01:11 AM
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That's enough reason right there to hate it.
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05-13-2011, 04:52 AM
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I guess I'll choose between these 4:
Newegg.com - Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT51264BA1339 Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B Newegg.com - Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/8G Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX or the 1333 model What would you guys choose and why? Will my 7600 be compatible with all of this? Also, glc, where you saying I should just try to sell my old pc instead of trying to sell it in pieces or? Thanks again fellas. Last edited by csice; 05-13-2011 at 05:04 AM. |
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05-13-2011, 08:45 AM
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I prefer the Kingston because they use Elpida chips. Crucial is a division for Micron (chip manufacture) and they get the pick of the litter so their RAM is great. I use both brands exclusively and go with whatever one has the best deal at the time of need. Between the two, they have been the most reliable. your 7600 video card is fine. If the Diablo 3 requires Direct X 10 then you will need a new card. You can always get a card later. It is easier to sell a complete system on Craigs list, more people are looking for a ready to go system then guys like me looking for an individual part deal. Don't overprice it, take good pictures (the 4 best), and write a good description of the system. Or give the system away to someone who could really use it. Last edited by jdeb; 05-13-2011 at 08:51 AM. |
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05-13-2011, 09:23 AM
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The 7600 is fine as long as it's PCI-Express and not AGP. However, if you get rid of or find another use for the whole old system you will need a new card, and read the article in post #6.
You COULD try onboard Sandy Bridge, you can always add a card later. If you do, upgrade the processor to the 2500K to get the better graphics core, and get a decent H67 board, or maybe a Z68 board that has the onboard graphics enabled. Newegg.com - ASUS P8H67-M PRO/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard |
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05-13-2011, 09:36 AM
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I would go with this for your RAM... Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9
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05-13-2011, 06:46 PM
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Why the Corsair? There seem to be a decent number of complaints on it.
As far as the graphics card goes, I may ask again in the future as I probably won't be buying this stuff for a little while yet. If you guys have any more suggestions or anything, please add. |
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05-13-2011, 08:06 PM
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As far as the professional builders in this forum are concerned, Corsair is very reliable RAM. No brand is perfect.
RAM, Memory brand rating |
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05-13-2011, 11:42 PM
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Correct, but Crucial and Kingston are also on the "good" list and I'll use any of what you listed - but the heatsinks on the Vengeance are crap. 1.5 volt ram preferred.
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05-14-2011, 03:32 AM
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I see, I see, thanks for the knowledge fellas.
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11-06-2011, 05:21 PM
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I'm back. I didn't want to make a new thread. I will be buying this stuff really soon now, so I wanted to follow through. I am potentially looking for a different mobo since newegg doesn't have the one in my list in stock....unless it is hands down what I should get. Anyhow, here is my list: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...px?ID=13927611
If there are any better options for any components, please let me know. These are my secondary concerns/questions: I am also trying to decide between the Antec 900 and 902, heard lots of complaints about the 902. Anyone have any recommendations on keyboards? I just want a standard, all black keyboard that feels nice, that doesn't look ridiculous. I like the second Saitek keyboard, but I don't really want an illuminated keyboard, plus it's kind of expensive. Also, still looking into cheap graphics cards. Thanks for one last look guys. Last edited by csice; 11-06-2011 at 05:25 PM. |
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Sorry, that wish list isn't public, I can't see it.
Please post the link to each component here. |
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11-06-2011, 05:55 PM
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Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9 Newegg.com - ASUS P8Z68-V LE LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K The onboard video in the "K" series processor is quite decent, and will work with a Z68 board. If you find you need better video: Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100328L Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card |
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11-06-2011, 06:43 PM
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May I ask why the change in PS? If I may be so noobish to ask why that mobo and are there better/why would anyone want to spend more for a better one? It sounds like the Asus has audio issues and is picky about what ram it accepts.
With the cpu and mobo, do you think I could play Diablo 3 and similar graphical games? In other words, what is the max graphically? Thanks so much. Last edited by csice; 11-06-2011 at 06:48 PM. |
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11-06-2011, 07:13 PM
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The power supply is cheaper, and it's the new version of the same unit.
The ram I suggested is a good match for that motherboard. It's a very good board for the price. If money isn't an object, then get the P8Z68-V or the P8Z68-V Pro. I don't know - you can try playing the game with it, if it doesn't like it then add a video card. |
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11-06-2011, 07:19 PM
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Sounds good, thanks again. If anyone knows anything about my other dumb questions, please add.
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11-23-2011, 08:21 PM
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So I'm trying to put this together, trying to price match my 2500k for $180, and I come across what I believe to be the same hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1 TB 35 Internal Hard Drive by Office Depot. Is this indeed the same thing as the newegg link provided in the first post? If so, why the price difference...gotta be missing something here.
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11-23-2011, 10:23 PM
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Good luck getting your order accepted for that hard drive at that price. I wish you luck.
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11-23-2011, 10:26 PM
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Ok, well they are out of stock. Great, nothing is going right at all tonight trying to find better prices for stuff. Why would you list it if you don't have it.
I guess this is my best option then: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?...cf4ad099bcece0 Last edited by csice; 11-23-2011 at 10:43 PM. |
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11-23-2011, 11:43 PM
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One more question guys, I swear. I'm very sorry for my interminable questioning, you've both been most helpful. I saw a couple of deals on ram, are either of these all that good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233198 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233190 or should I just stick with this for now: Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9 |
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