my new built computer will not boot

[ros]

glc,

i bought another new mobo biostar m7ncd pro and a 128mb sapphire radeon 9000 pro agp8 video card. outside of the case i connect the mobo and the video card together, also i connected the speaker up from the 10-Bay XG Sidewinder 2 ATX Mid Tower Case w/450W PS Black. i heard 1 long beep, it stops than it sound again the same way as long as i keep the mobo on.

i still didn't get anything thing to show up on the monitor.

[jdeb]

Originally Posted by ros i basically spread the thermal paste that was already on the heat sink since glc said i can do so in one of glc's past post. the beep is the same sound and length. i did not install the 1 stick of ram that i have. to my understanding of glc instructions from a past post, i thought that he wanted me to have a out of case start up with only the mobo, video card, power supply and the case speaker plugged into the mobo. pardon me jdeb, i meant to reply to glc's post, but you can still continue to help me as well, thank you.

Well, that could be your problem. One long beep that repeats with an Award BIOS indicates a CPU overheat. You may have not enough coverage on the thermal paste or evenly distributed. You also have to make sure the CPU is clamped down correctly as well.

Do you have additional thermal paste?

It is correct to build outside of the case. We need it to post into the Bios before putting it in the case.

Try the other stick of RAM

[glc]

No, this is your problem:

i did not install the 1 stick of ram that i have. to my understanding of glc instructions from a past post, i thought that he wanted me to have a out of case start up with only the mobo, video card, power supply and the case speaker plugged into the mobo.

You must have at least 1 stick of ram installed.

[jdeb]

Originally Posted by glc No, this is your problem: You must have at least 1 stick of ram installed.

How did I miss that? Hmmmm. no ram, no start.

[ros]

your right glc i installed the ram i finally get info to show on my monitor, thanks. i installed everything inside of my case everything is working. the computer instructs me to push key f9,f8 or f1, i push the configuration key and then the booting key, then i realized my keyboard was not on, but i did have it plugged in.

i also noticed the dvd/cd hardware shows up on my monitor but i did not see the hard drive, floppy disk drive or the controller card hardware. when should i install the dvd/cd, controller card and the motherboard cds? i installed the motherboard cd nothing happened.

[glc]

USB or PS/2 keyboard?

I don't understand the rest of your question.

[ros]

usb

[ros]

usb

[glc]

You may need to use a PS/2 keyboard to get into the bios to enable USB legacy devices.

[ros]

glc,
so your telling me i can not use my normal gateway keyboard that i normally use for my other computers? so this why my keyboard is not coming on to operate this new built computer? so this is why my keyboard is not working, i need to get a ps2/keyboard

well my past message i was saying that my computer actually come on now and i get information to show on my monitor, what do i have to do next to continue to complete building my computer. and when do i suppose to install my cds that came with my hardware

[glc]

Again, you may need to use a PS/2 keyboard to get into the bios setup to enable the proper USB functions to support a USB keyboard.

The first thing you need to do is install an operating system. Then you will install all your device drivers.

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by glc Again, you may need to use a PS/2 keyboard to get into the bios setup to enable the proper USB functions to support a USB keyboard.

Could he just use one of those usb to ps/2 adapters to make that work instead of having to buy a new keyboard?

DOS_equis

[glc]

Originally Posted by DOS_equis Could he just use one of those usb to ps/2 adapters to make that work instead of having to buy a new keyboard? DOS_equis

It may be difficult to find one that works. He doesn't have to BUY a keyboard - BORROW one just to get into the bios and make the settings.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by DOS_equis Could he just use one of those usb to ps/2 adapters?

No, it will not work. Even if he gets lucky and gets into bios, he won't be able to move around and make selections. I know, I've been there. He needs a natural ps/2 keyboard.

Some of those adapters didn't even work properly while under an OS. And a few usb keyboards required their specific adapter.

A used ps/2 keyboard should be 5 bucks or less at your local pc repair shop, if you don't have one laying around.

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by rwest No, it will not work. Even if he gets lucky and gets into bios, he won't be able to move around and make selections. I know, I've been there. He needs a natural ps/2 keyboard. Some of those adapters didn't even work properly while under an OS. And a few usb keyboards required their specific adapter. A used ps/2 keyboard should be 5 bucks or less at your local pc repair shop, if you don't have one laying around.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought those were good to go since I used one for awhile and it never gave me problems IIRC.

DOS_equis

[ros]

Originally Posted by glc Again, you may need to use a PS/2 keyboard to get into the bios setup to enable the proper USB functions to support a USB keyboard. The first thing you need to do is install an operating system. Then you will install all your device drivers.

glc so your saying even before i can use my ps/2 keyboard i need to install an operating system right?

[DOS_equis]

ros, you need the keyboard before you install the OS. The BIOS is the area where all of the core settings of the motherboard are located. Usually you have to repeatedly hit the delete key when you first power up the system to tell it you want to get to the BIOS screen. There may be a message that appears for a brief time to give you the option to do so. If you happen to miss it, just power cycle the system or hit the reset key and try again. Sometimes the BIOS is set in a way that it will halt the boot process when it doesn't detect a keyboard.

[ros]

DOS equis, once i am able to get to the bios what settings do i choose?

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by ros DOS equis, once i am able to get to the bios what settings do i choose?

After reviewing the thread, I think you were trying to get some of your hardware to show up or be recognized by the computer. I would hunt around section by section in the BIOS' main screen and look for something related to the hardware that is missing so you can see if there is a setting to enable it. You might want to restate what the problem with your machine is.

[ros]

Originally Posted by DOS_equis After reviewing the thread, I think you were trying to get some of your hardware to show up or be recognized by the computer. I would hunt around section by section in the BIOS' main screen and look for something related to the hardware that is missing so you can see if there is a setting to enable it. You might want to restate what the problem with your machine is.

DOS equis,
when i turn on my computer the dvd/cd hardware shows up on my monitor but i did not see the hard drive, floppy disk drive or the controller card hardware. I do have an ps/2 keyboard, i will be using this keyboard instead of an USB keyboard...this is what I see in the BIOS what do i do next:

Standard CMOS Features Frequency/Voltage Control
Advanced BIOS Features Load Optimized Defaults
Advanced Chipset Features Set Supervisor Password
Integrated Peripherals Save & Exit Setup
PnP/PCI Cofigurations Exit Without Saving
PC Health Status Upgrade BIOS

Esc: Quit F9 Menu in BIOS
F10 Save & Exit Setup

[DOS_equis]

I would try the "load optimized defaults and see what that does. It's kinda hard to step you through it since the BIOS settings change from model to model and manufacturer to manufacturer of the motherboards. Usually, the first selection from the BIOS screen will show you general info on what the BIOS detects to be connected to it. It also could be the second choice. There might be a setting for for "floppy seek" or something similarly worded. That would tell the BIOS to look for the floppy drive. Are you sure that the data and power cables are securely connected to the devices? If the power cables are not connected the system can't "see" the devices even though the data cable is connected properly.



OK I found an online copy of the BIOS setup guide for your motherboard here:

Biostar M7NCD PRO | M7NCD Pro BIOS setup guide

What does the page "standard CMOS features" say? does it show any drives connected at all? It should list something to the right of the "IDE primary master" and the "drive A" labels. If it doesn't there is a problem with how they are connected or powered.

[ros]

why do i see floppy failed (40)

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by ros why do i see floppy failed (40)

Have you checked the floppy data ribbon cable and 4pin power cable to make sure that it's attached correctly to the system and the floppy drive? The error just states that during the boot process, it couldn't properly detect the floppy drive. The floppy and keyboard are usually one of the first things detected and if the BIOS is set to do so, it will halt on an error related to the floppy and/ or the keyboard.

Typically speaking, if the floppy seek or activity light is constantly on as soon as the system is powered up, the data cable is installed incorrectly. You need to verify that the one wire in the grey ribbon cable that has a red tracer is connected to the #1 pin on both the motherboard and the floppy drive. Usually the motherboard socket for this port is keyed so it can only be installed one way. The floppy side is where things can go wrong since most of the drives don't have a keyed socket for the cable. There should be markings somewhere on the back of the drive to label the #1 pin. That pin should be on the left side of the connector if memory serves me right. It's been too long since I've had to mess with one of those drives.


DOS_equis

[ros]

DOS_equis,
i have the floppy situation correct now thanks. but now i am getting a message that reads CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded. once my computer don't show anymore errors can i then install an operating system? will i be able to install windows 7 ?

[ros]

DOS_equis,
i have the floppy situation correct now thanks. but now i am getting a message that reads CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded. once my computer don't show anymore errors can i then install an operating system? will i be able to install windows 7 ?

[jdeb]

Check the date and time in the BIOS, it is probably wrong. Replace the CMOS battery (CVS should have them).

[rwest]

Since you seem to be having a few BIOS issues, once you get the battery replaced, I'd manually set BIOS back to 'defaults' instead of 'optimised' and go from there.

Yes, once the BIOS issues are correct you might be okay.

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by ros DOS_equis, i have the floppy situation correct now thanks. but now i am getting a message that reads CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded. once my computer don't show anymore errors can i then install an operating system? will i be able to install windows 7 ?

Yep you should be good to go once you get all of the BIOS issues sorted. Just like rwest said, set it up for defaults before you go ahead with the OS install. If you feel the need, you can go back in there later on and change a setting or two.

DOS_equis

[ros]

i ask that whoever answer my thread please don't be to technical with the computer lango, because i'm like a new born baby with this computer building and computer tech language. thanks

monitor used (NEC MultiSunc XV15)
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10-Bay XG Sidewinder 2 ATX Mid Tower Case w/450W PS Black
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Lite-On 52x32x52 CDRW & 16x DVD-ROM IDE Drive Black
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Motherboard biostar m7ncd pro
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512MB DDR RAM PC3200 184-Pin DIMM
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NEC 1.44MB 3.5 Floppy Disk Drive Black
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Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM 2MB SATA/300 3.5 Hard Drive
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ATI RADEON 9200 128MB 8x AGP VCD w/TV-Out DVI
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Two Channel SATA PCI Controller Card
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5x5-inch 120mm Case Fan Black
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Samsung 18x light scribe dual format dvd writerw/Software
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I installed the Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 (Service Pack 3) Pro COA CD Full Version.

This is the message I got....Windows XP Professional Setup, setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer. make sure any hard disks drives are powered on and properly connected to your computer, and that any disk-related hardware configuration is correct.

This may involve running a manufactuer - supplied diagnostic or setup program. setup can not continue. to quit setup, press F3
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then I placed the drivers and utilities cd for nVidia Chipset Mainboard in the computer, then this is the messaged I received...
Boot from CD: NVIDIA Boot Agent, PXE-2.0 (build 082 V1.82) copyright (c) 2001 NVidia corporation copyright (c) 1997-2000 intel corporation PXE-E61: media test failure, check cable PXE-M0F: exiting NVidia boot agent disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter.

I checked all cables they are all connected I even changed the slot of the controller card which have a red cable connected to the hard drive as well as the power cable.

[glc]

You need to boot from the XP CD and start Setup, then you need to watch the bottom of the screen for the prompt to press F6 to load a driver for a 3rd party storage controller. Press F6 and wait for another prompt - then you have to put a FLOPPY DISK in the drive with the XP preinstall driver for your SATA controller card on it.