my new built computer will not boot

[ros]

do you know where I can buy a windows xp preinstall floppy disks for my sata controller card?

before I have gotten your message, I have taken the battery out and replaced it, also I have place a screw driver on the cmos now I'm stuck on the hardware monitor page... message says... "verifying DMI pool data", can you instruct me how to get off that page so I can move on with the installation instructions you have given me, thanks

[DOS_equis]

You may have to reconfigure some settings in the BIOS since you reset it to the defaults when you pulled the battery. It should still boot though or get to a system disk error if the drive is empty. The drivers you need will be on the manufacturers website. You have to copy them to a floppy and load them at the correct time as GLC instructed. You will be prompted for them during the beginning of the XP load.


DOS_equis

[glc]

Not a clue on how to help you find a driver without the brand and model of the card.............................

Why did you remove the battery and clear the cmos? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[ros]

my controller card is a PCI Serial ATA Host, serial (SATA) Host controller chip with 32-bit interfacing.
compliant with serial ATA 1.0 specification
supports two independent serial ATA ports with data transfer rate up to 1.5Gb/s
built in 256 byte FIFO per port for fast read/write operations
supports microsoft generic IDE operation and intel bus master DMA OPERATIONS
silcone image sata card, ATA RAID.


to answer your question glc,
when I got stuck on the hardware monitor page... with the message saying... "verifying DMI pool data" and I couldn't go no further I google search to help me get off that page and that was the instructions I received from that site, to remove the battery or touch the jcmos with a screw driver.

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by ros my controller card is a PCI Serial ATA Host, serial (SATA) Host controller chip with 32-bit interfacing. compliant with serial ATA 1.0 specification supports two independent serial ATA ports with data transfer rate up to 1.5Gb/s built in 256 byte FIFO per port for fast read/write operations supports microsoft generic IDE operation and intel bus master DMA OPERATIONS silcone image sata card, ATA RAID. to answer your question glc, when I got stuck on the hardware monitor page... with the message saying... "verifying DMI pool data" and I couldn't go no further I google search to help me get off that page and that was the instructions I received from that site, to remove the battery or touch the jcmos with a screw driver.

Do you know the manufacturer name and model number of the SATA card you are trying to use? Without that it will be hard to point you in the right direction to get the drivers you need.


DOS_equis

[ros]

I'm not sure if I am looking in the right area but this is what I see on the card Serial ATA F-02, SD SATA150R, S/N No. TS 07020010520.

Model: IOC-7200
Two Channel SATA PCI Controller Card

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by ros I'm not sure if I am looking in the right area but this is what I see on the card Serial ATA F-02, SD SATA150R, S/N No. TS 07020010520. Model: IOC-7200 Two Channel SATA PCI Controller Card

Newegg.com - Cables Unlimited IOC-7200 PCI SATA 2 Port Serial ATA 150 Controller PCI Card

Is that the card you have? If so it should have a driver disk that came with it. The easiest way I can think of to get that system running is to get that driver disk and open it up in another machine to extract the driver you need onto a floppy or call/ email customer support to have them get you the driver. I can't find it on the manufacturers website either. It's not very customer friendly for support IMO. Next thing would be to buy another one from Newegg or just get rid of the card altogether and use IDE drives since that is what your board supports natively.


DOS_equis

[ros]

yes that is my card I do have the cd, but now I'm stuck on the verifying DMI pool data page. how can I get pass that?

[DOS_equis]

Hopefully nothing bad happened to the BIOS chip during the reset. You didn't try to reset it while it was powered up did you?

With the power on the PC off, you can pull the battery out for about 15 minutes to fully clear the BIOS and then reinstall it in its socket. Make sure that the BIOS reset jumper is NOT in the reset position. If that doesn't do it you can pull everything off of the board except the CPU and get it to beep at you. Then install one stick of RAM and power it up again. Without any drives it should give you the "non-system disk or missing drive" error (worded similarly). You might have to get the driver for the SATA raid card you have on a floppy to install XP. I don't think you can swap CD's in the middle of the install like that but I have never tried either so I can't guide you there. I have never had to install the HDD drivers during an XP install, only regular setup.


DOS_equis

[ros]

The power was off when removed the battery before. I didn't keep the battery out for 15 minutes though I put it right back in. What do you mean about the reset button, I don't understand how to actually do that.

[DOS_equis]

You might be able to do it sooner or shorter duration but I know 15 minutes would be enough time for any transient voltage to dissipate out of the CMOS. it will revert to default settings and should give you an error message about it. You should be able to get it to go past the DMI pool data hang. The DMI pool data is when the BIOS is checking for attached hardware and making a note of it. It does this so it can communicate this stuff to Windows (or whatever other OS you are going to run). If the BIOS gets corrupted it could make the machine hang at that spot. If you have faulty hardware like a hard drive it can also cause this. This is why I suggested you pull all hardware from the board (minus the CPU), reset the BIOS and see what happens.


Edit: Some older motherboard manufacturers had a "BIOS reset jumper" on them which is a set of 3 pins usually (some are just two). You pulled the jumper from where it was stored on the two "normal" pins (which also disconnected the battery power from the BIOS chip), shorted the two "reset" pins with the jumper which quickly drained the electric charge in the BIOS chip and then returned the jumper to the "normal position". Pulling the battery does the same thing if you don't have the jumpers. You never want to do this when the system is powered up though. Only when it is off and unplugged.


DOS_equis

[ros]

I did remove the battery and the jumper from cmos, replaced them then disconnect all of the hardware, the computer did began to continually beep with single beeps. then I installed one stick of memory the beeps stopped and I was able to pass the "verifying DMI page", thanks.

1. should I install the mother board and the sata card CDs drives before I intstall the XP OS?

2.is there anyway I could use a flash drive instead of using a floppy disk to download XP if I need to go that route?

3. I'm having a hard time trying to find a store that sells floppy disk, do you know a store that sells floppy disk off their shelf without having to order it online?

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by ros I did remove the battery and the jumper from cmos, replaced them then disconnect all of the hardware, the computer did began to continually beep with single beeps. then I installed one stick of memory the beeps stopped and I was able to pass the "verifying DMI page", thanks. 1. should I install the mother board and the sata card CDs drives before I intstall the XP OS? 2.is there anyway I could use a flash drive instead of using a floppy disk to download XP if I need to go that route? 3. I'm having a hard time trying to find a store that sells floppy disk, do you know a store that sells floppy disk off their shelf without having to order it online?

I'm glad that it worked out for you. You just didn't give the BIOS chip enough time to reset.

!. To be on the safe side I would load the OS flattened out on the bench (table) like you have it for now with all the parts that you plan to use installed. You can do the whole install like that and then carefully pull it apart and install all of the parts back in a case. That way if the system fails to boot after you install it in the case you know something happened during the install process and not with the OS load.

2. Unfortunately, there is no way to load the RAID card drivers during the XP install off of a USB drive. You can only do that with Windows 7 I believe. XP only looks for floppy drives when you press F6 so there is no way to force it to look for a CD drive or USB that I know of. There is a complicated way of doing it without a floppy (slipstreaming using an app called nLite) but it is outside of the scope of this build IMO and it is a way that I'm not 100% familiar with where I can step you through it. There are plenty of guides available on the net that discuss this.

3.That is a good question. The last time I bought floppies in a store it was in a office supply or regular grocery store years ago. I haven't had the need to buy any in a long time and only have to use them occasionally by using a floppy drive with a USB cable interface. I'm not sure if a regular computer store sells them anymore due to lack of demand. I think Sony was the last holdout on making floppy disks and they have even ceased production or are going to in the near future. You will have to order them from a supplier online. You might look on Amazon or some reputable, online computer stores for availability.


DOS_equis

[ros]

so once I install all of my hardware that I will be using on my MOBO, which CDs to install first in order 1 to 3?

1.XP OS CD, 2.MOBO utility and drivers CD, then 3. SATA CARD CD utility and drivers?

[glc]

1. XP CD with SP2 or higher
2. SATA floppy disk, press F6
3. Motherboard CD after Windows is installed

[DOS_equis]

Originally Posted by glc 1. XP CD with SP2 or higher 2. SATA floppy disk, press F6 3. Motherboard CD after Windows is installed

Hypothetically speaking, if he was trying to set up a RAID 0 (or any other level RAID) on that system and have the OS on the array how would he go about doing that. Don't you have to create the array before adding data to it due to the RAID utility wiping the drives?


DOS_equis

[ros]

glc, I did try to copy the sata cd on a 3 1/2 floppy disk this is the message I received... copying...install SiICfg.exe from 'medley' to 'medley' 201 minutes remaining.


copy...the file being copied is too, large for the destination drive. If possible insert a higher. capacity disk.

what do I do, find disks with more space or some how save after each disk and continue to enter disk to complete the copying of the sata cd?

[glc]

You need to dig through the readmes on the CD. You either have to copy only specific files or run a diskmaker utility.

Dos, let's keep RAID out of this discussion.

[glc]

Gotcha - you have a private message.

[DOS_equis]

Thanks GLC

[ros]

Originally Posted by glc You need to dig through the readmes on the CD. You either have to copy only specific files or run a diskmaker utility. Dos, let's keep RAID out of this discussion.

how many disk I need to use to copy Si 3112 installation from the controller card CD? I have already formated 2 floppy disks and began to install, it is still asking for more space to install more info from the CD.

what's so confusing is the floppy disks do not be full...not even close to full when the system is asking for more space.

I don't know how to run a diskmaker utility...

[glc]

You need ONE FLOPPY DISK - there are only certain files you need to copy.

si3112r.cat
Si3112r.inf
Si3112r.sys
SiiSupp.vxd
SilSupp.cpl
SiWinAcc.sys
TxtSetup.oem

You will have to dig around the CD to find the folder that these are in. There are different files for different operating systems. Look for a folder named FLOPPY - and you want XP 32 bit, possibly called X86.

Again - look on the CD for a README file!

[ros]

Originally Posted by glc You need ONE FLOPPY DISK - there are only certain files you need to copy. si3112r.cat Si3112r.inf Si3112r.sys SiiSupp.vxd SilSupp.cpl SiWinAcc.sys TxtSetup.oem You will have to dig around the CD to find the folder that these are in. There are different files for different operating systems. Look for a folder named FLOPPY - and you want XP 32 bit, possibly called X86. Again - look on the CD for a README file!

I have everything outside of the case, everything was loading good, I did the F6, loaded the floppy with all the files saved on the floppy, I followed the directions....

This is the message I got....Windows XP Professional Setup, setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer. make sure any hard disks drives are powered on and properly connected to your computer, and that any disk-related hardware configuration is correct.

This may involve running a manufactuer - supplied diagnostic or setup program. setup can not continue. to quit setup, press F3


and yes glc I did read the Readme file...

[glc]

What service pack level is your XP CD? It has to be at least SP2.

[ros]

Sp3