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06-23-2011, 12:42 AM
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Help Me Build a New Rig
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I would like some help on building my first rig. I basically need help with recommendations on the configuration of the machine. Here is what I will be using the PC for: Graphic Design Web Site Design Internet and Email Some Video Editing What I need: 3 Monitors as I work with a lot of windows at once CD/DVD burning HDMI as I play movies through my entertainment system I am on my computer up to 8-10 hours a day continuously I don't want to spend a lot of money, yet I want a machine that won't lag when I'm working with multiple programs at once (ie. Photoshop, Expression Web, Flash, Firefox). Any suggestions would be great. Thanks. |
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06-23-2011, 01:30 AM
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Please give us an approximate budget for just the computer, not including monitors, peripherals, or OS/software.
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06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
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For multitasking you really can't beat the value of the AMD 6 Core Processors, like glc said though, it is hard to recomend anything without knowing how much money you have to spend on this rig.
Does your budget include the 3 monitors or do you already own those?
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06-23-2011, 11:13 AM
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For three monitors consider an AMD Eyefinity capable graphics card.
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06-23-2011, 11:38 AM
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David, that's a 2 edged sword - a lot of software for that use these days can take advantage of Nvidia CUDA technology. Depending on what the OP comes back with for budget, perhaps a quad head Nvidia Quadro may be the best choice, if they support HDMI yet. The ones I see use a VDHCI connector and come with an adapter for four DVI's.
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06-24-2011, 07:07 PM
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My budget is between $1000 and $1500.
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06-25-2011, 01:19 AM
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Will that configuration plus 3 monitors and an OS fit in his budget?
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06-25-2011, 10:50 AM
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What would be the benefits of going with an Intel CPU over an AMD?
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06-25-2011, 11:02 AM
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The Intel is 10% faster overall however in my opinion the AMD platform is a lot more stable, the Intel 1155 platform has had a lot of problems and recalls.
I am recomending the AMD because it fits in your budget with the 3 monitors and will give you exceptional performance for years to come, the board I recomended will also work with the new Bulldozer platform that will allow you to upgrade later to 12 core on a single CPU. For what you are trying to do, you need a stable platform. If you look at my sig I am using a 24 core workstation for my audio and video editing. If you want the faster system and stability is not an issue for you and can justify the extra money to spend then go for the Intel 1155. |
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06-25-2011, 11:09 AM
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Compare Intel Core i7-2600K (Sandy Bridge 4c/8t), Phenom II X6 1100T Hexa Core Processor Not really a fair comparison, because the Intel is more than $100 more than the AMD. |
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06-25-2011, 11:20 AM
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This is not an attack on Intel just the 1155 chipset, if one must go with Intel I recomend the 1156. I ordered the MSI Z68 like I stated I would , I am using i5-2300 as I do not have a 2600 in stock. It is giving me blue screens when eiditing video with Adobe Premier Pro while using Reason 5, this is not happening on the AMD rigs. Is i7-2600k faster than the AMD? No doubt but what use is that if it keeps crashing? Last edited by Khalil; 06-25-2011 at 11:25 AM. |
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06-25-2011, 02:35 PM
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What is the difference between the high end mobo's and the ones recommended here?
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06-25-2011, 02:41 PM
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More options for more devices, like multiple video cards and most PCI and PCI- express slots, more USB and a1394, eSATA and so on. Also some of the higher end chipsets can perform better. Cooling also on the more expensive boards is better. Big factor on the price is the type of components used. Japanese Solid State Caps are very expensive in comparisson to regular caps.
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06-25-2011, 02:44 PM
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the board you recommended, what does it lack that I may want to have?
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06-25-2011, 02:56 PM
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Nothing, that motherboard has everything you need for your purposes. All the other boards higher than this one are gaming motherboards or you can go to server/workstation motherboards but you really don't need that!
4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2133(O.C.)/1866/1800/1600/1333/1066 Hz ECC, Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue) 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black) 2 x PCIe 2.0 x1 2 x PCI 6 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s), gray Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10 2 x eSATA 3Gb/s port(s), red 2 x IEEE 1394a port(s) 14 x USB 2.0 port(s) (8 at back panel, black+red, 6 at mid-board) 4 x USB 3.0 port(s) (2 at back panel, blue, 2 at mid-board) Last edited by Khalil; 06-25-2011 at 02:59 PM. |
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06-25-2011, 03:07 PM
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How do I connect 3 monitors to these video cards when they only have 2 outputs? Also, the SSD Drive, what role does that play?
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06-25-2011, 03:35 PM
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SSD drive will be your sysem drive and where you host your software, will make video editing and graphics design supremely faster then you store your work on the mechanical drive.
You use this Newegg.com - Zalman 6 ft. HDMI to DVI Cable Model CHDD06A1 to hook up your 3rd monitor. 
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06-26-2011, 09:56 AM
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1. My suggestion for that particular SSD is NOT for being your system drive, it's not big enough. It's for using the SSD Caching that's built into the Z68 chipset - it and the hard drive are seen as a single drive. Getting a big enough SSD to be a dedicated system drive will greatly increase the cost, it will be almost triple.
2. With the Nvidia card, the 3rd monitor has to be connected to the ONBOARD video, not the video card. With an ATI/AMD card with Eyefinity, all 3 can be connected to the card, but the 3rd one needs an active DisplayPort adapter unless you have a monitor with DisplayPort. |
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06-26-2011, 03:41 PM
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GLC . . .
The main OS/programs I plan on installing on my system are as follows: Adobe Creative Suite Web Premium Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Office 2010 Microsoft Expression Suite Itunes 5-6 other programs ranging from 5-200MB Each. 1. Will that SSD Drive be big enough to have those particular programs installed and run ok? 2. How much faster will my system run/boot if I do get a big enough SSD Drive (if the one recommended is not big enough) to solely use as a dedicated system drive? 3. What is SSD Caching and how does it work? |
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06-26-2011, 04:49 PM
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1. No. You would need at least this:
Newegg.com - Intel 510 Series (Elm Crest) SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 2. It will boot faster and open programs faster. It will not "compute" faster. 3. Intel Z68 Express Chipset Preview: SSD Caching And Quick Sync : Z68 Express Makes Its Debut |
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06-26-2011, 07:46 PM
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06-26-2011, 08:09 PM
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sorry, was updating my parts list and got logged out, brb
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06-28-2011, 06:55 PM
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I like the 6870. I would bump up the power supply to give you a little more head room...
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply I prefer the Intel 510 series SSD. |
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06-28-2011, 08:56 PM
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06-28-2011, 11:13 PM
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In response to your PM, I personally like to use Crucial & Corsair SSD drives.
I used a few Intel SSD drives but was not impressed with them as the Crucial & Corsairs but again I am not a big authority on SSD drives. I only build around 20-25 systems a month with SSD, glc & Jdeb may have a lot more experiece with them, for me it is Crucial & Corsair SSD drives, I have yet to have one fail in over 18 months! Corsair power supplies are right there behind Seasonic (best of the best) in Quality and Reliablity. I highly recommend them. I as well like the AMD 6870 video cards, lately I have been using a lot of HIS they are a lot quiter than the other 6870s! Last edited by Khalil; 06-28-2011 at 11:16 PM. |
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07-16-2011, 04:41 PM
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All of my parts are in . . I have installed the MOBO/Video Card/CPU/DVD Drive. The CPU came with the CPU Fan, which I heard was not that great, but I'm going to give it a shot anyway. The MOBO did not come with any washers or anything, so I just mounted it onto the bare pegs.
I used the HDA instead of PC97 because I heard it was better and newer. I have moved as many as the wires as I could out of the case and onto the side inner wire mounts but some wouldn't stretch so they stayed. I'm pretty sure I have installed everything correctly. I haven't plugged in the power supply to the receptacle yet or tried to boot it up as I wanted any last minute advice I could get and any and all advice will be appreciated. |
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