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Old 09-01-2011, 10:16 PM   #1
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I whipped this list together tonight. https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...px?ID=13491054

I am 14 and built my first computer at the age of 10 at a summer camp. At the camp they had the parts pre-chosen so I am still new to the whole "compatibility" thing.

I would like a computer both good for gaming and video recording/editing. I would really only like to spend, at maximum, $750. I don't care about aesthetics, just functionality. I would like a computer that will be able to run popular games today on medium-high settings as well as games that will come out months from now. I am in no way an expert and that is why I am here. Please excuse me if my request is naive.

Basically, can anyone here tell me if my list is good or tweak it? I'm also open to a brand new list.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:35 PM   #2
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Sorry, that wishlist link is not public, it brings up a login page. Would you please copy and paste the links to each component? Right click to copy, don't just drag the mouse.
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Would look for a better quaility PSU like Corsair or Antec.
Would look to different ram makers like Corsair/Kingston/Adata. Gskill has had issues with their ram.
The HD you picked would be OK for data storage drive but not the OS drive. You want a 7200 RPM drive, look to the WD Black.
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Newegg.com - EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Newegg.com - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan

The above are fine.



816.00 is the lowest I can come up with for quality. Your power supply wouldn't work because it does not produce 38A on the 12V rail. You forgot the burner and OS as well. Add 99.00 for OS

Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burne
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118039

Western Digital Caviar Black WD7502AAEX 750GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136794

Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-620 620W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371048

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233186

BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138319

Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115078

You can always add a 40 or 64 GB SSD for ssd caching, and matching ram for future upgrade. 8 GB will be enough for now.

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I have an OS and optical drive. I also have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. Also what I picked out is a little over my budget. Is there a slightly cheaper graphics card or something?
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I have an OS and optical drive. I also have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. Also what I picked out is a little over my budget. Is there a slightly cheaper graphics card or something?
Take the optical drive out and you are closer to budget. Yes, there are cheaper graphic cards but that one will play anything you throw at it.


You can get within budget with this card, which is excellent as well.

SAPPHIRE FleX 100312FLEX Radeon HD 6950 2GB
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE FleX 100312FLEX Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
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Thanks! My friends told me to get a 750w power supply in case I plan to upgrade. I do in fact plan to upgrade so would this be a wise investment?
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Thanks! My friends told me to get a 750w power supply in case I plan to upgrade. I do in fact plan to upgrade so would this be a wise investment?
You can not get a much better power supply then I recommended.
Upgrade for what?
If you plan on adding an additional video card for sli or crossfire, than I would recommend a different motherboard.
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That's $900 right there. To get it down to $750 *AND* keep quality parts you are going to have to downgrade some things and upgrade a couple:

Newegg.com - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan

Newegg.com - Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9

Newegg.com - ASUS P8Z68-V LE LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD7502AAEX 750GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Newegg.com - Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - CD / DVD Burners

Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2300 Sandy Bridge 2.8GHz (3.1GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52300

Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card -OR-
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

If you can extend your budget:

Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card -OR-
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100312-1GDP Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
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Dual SLI/Crossfire Is something I plan on doing, I just can't afford two cards right now.
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Dual SLI/Crossfire Is something I plan on doing, I just can't afford two cards right now.
The board I would recommend would add an additional 100.00
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Dual SLI/Crossfire Is something I plan on doing, I just can't afford two cards right now.
I wouldn't do it. Just get a good single card and keep your motherboard and PSU costs down.
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SLI sounds cool but Is it really nessecary?

I play games like RIFT, Minecraft, BF3, MW3, and various steam games. I also use Sony Vegas to edit/render videos and I use FRAPS to record gameplay. What would be an affordable Nvidia card to do just that?
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SLI sounds cool but Is it really nessecary?
Absolutely not.

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I play games like RIFT, Minecraft, BF3, MW3, and various steam games. I also use Sony Vegas to edit/render videos and I use FRAPS to record gameplay. What would be an affordable Nvidia card to do just that?
The 560 or 560 Ti.

Another excellent 650 watt PSU is the Corsair 650 TX.
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:51 PM   #17
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This is what I have:
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With that budget figure, I would upgrade the motherboard to the Asus P8Z68-V LE, the video card to the EVGA Superclocked 560 Ti "AR" series, and downgrade the CPU to the i5-2500K.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:02 PM   #19
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I have to make my budget a little smaller more like 600-650 max now ):

Also will this be better than my friends computer?
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:35 PM   #21
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Thank you, I will order it in December. Newegg.com - Once You Know, You Newegg
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:09 PM   #22
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DECEMBER???????

The market will be COMPLETELY different by then!

Bring this thread back up no more than 2 weeks before you can order it, and give us an updated budget figure.

Your wish list STILL has incompatible components, by the way. You can't put an AMD processor in an Intel motherboard.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:30 PM   #23
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Are all of these parts compatible/Is this a good build?

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It's about $700 after all mail-in rebates.

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Are all of these parts compatible/Is this a good build?

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It's about $700 after all mail-in rebates.
Great AMD build, will do well for you. Its all compatible!
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Thanks! Last question: will it require any additional cooling and or more watts?
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Is it worth it to spend a little extra money on the 560 Ti, rather than the 560? Can the 560 play any game on the market on ultra settings?
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Is it worth it to spend a little extra money on the 560 Ti, rather than the 560? Can the 560 play any game on the market on ultra settings?
In short no, a 560 can't play any game on the market at ultra settings. It can play a good majority of them at ultra settings (assuming no AA and a resolution of 1920x1080) and the rest at pretty high settings.
The 560 (withouth Ti) is basically the same as the GTX 460 (not SE) in terms of cores but is a little faster because it's clocked higher (you can find overclocked GTX 460 that are very close performance wise).

Before I upgraded to my single HD6870 to Crossfire, I was getting around 20-30fps (sometimes higher, but depending) at ultra on games such as Metro 2033 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (both are DX11 games), other games such as WoW and Minecraft were running in the 100s of frames per second at ultra settings. A HD6870 is about the same speed 560 (not Ti).

The 560 Ti has more cores than the normal 560 and is usually clocked a little higher so you can expect somewhere around 10%-15% performance increase. Depending on how much money you have, if you have about $30 extra to spare compared to the 560 GTX normal, i'd go for it.
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Again, the market is going to be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT by December. Planning this build out exactly now is a complete waste of time.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:26 PM   #29
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I'm actually going to buy it in a few weeks (birthday). I'd like to upgrade to this PSU Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply and was wondering if it was compatible.
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yes, it is. Good power supply.
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