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09-07-2011, 05:45 PM
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Need help on first gaming computer!
hi everyone, after a few days of wondering and pondering, was wondering if anyone can help me make a gaming computer that is capable of playing crisis,(seeing that it is the most graphic intensive game that i know) and that is able to be -upgradable/last more then 4 years.
(basically a motherboard socket that wont change anytime soon i guess??) my budget is 1500 dollars Canada. and just wondering.., do builds include a computer screen? or is that a different thing altogether? graphic card brand that i like to use is by nividia, of course if there are other brands that are better in terms of price/performance, i'll be happy to use it  PS: for all you people helping, how hard is it to setup a computer? did you ever get broken parts when buying online? and do you have to be at home when they ship it to you? PPS: If you don't mind, can you also tell me why you got the part? Just wondering cause no matter how much info there is on the web I still get confused, aka a cpu which shows to have less Ghz compare to one brand yet they still choose that low Ghz one. Or that a certain graphic cards numeric, stats are lower then another, yet they still pick that low numeric card. And is sandy ridge something that will last a good number of years? Last edited by numbawang; 09-07-2011 at 05:50 PM. |
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09-07-2011, 05:48 PM
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Check out this link http://www.pcmech.com/forum/build-yo...rig-101-a.html this will give you a good idea of how a gaming rig should be planned, once you read it and understand how it works as far as choosing parts then we can start helping you with recomendations.
It is not very difficult to build one, we will help you here and you should be good to go.
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09-07-2011, 05:52 PM
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lol i just read that the moment you posted
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09-07-2011, 06:44 PM
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thank you for your post! I was just wondering, what made you decide a single video card compare to a crossfire like.. Radeon HD 6950 2GB Edit: cross fire?
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09-07-2011, 07:05 PM
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Why have the complication of 2 video cards?
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09-07-2011, 07:11 PM
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09-07-2011, 07:38 PM
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With that being said, in games that support crossfire, you will have better performance with 2 HD6950s in crossfire than a GTX580 and setting it up is really easy (install both cards and the crossfire bridge), though I think the power requirements are going to be a bit higher for 2 HD6950s than for a GTX580 (according to the PSU calculator it's going to be about 32W higher, so not too much of a difference).
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09-07-2011, 07:44 PM
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and about getting rid of both cards, is it not possible to keep 1 card and crossfire with a different one? finally, if i use a plug that can hold alot more W then what i use is there any problems that may acure? thanks in advance~ |
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09-07-2011, 08:16 PM
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For running different cards in crossfire, it is possible, but it's limited to running cards with the same core and same generation. For example you could do a HD6850 with a HD6870, or HD6950 with a HD6970, but other than that, its pretty limited for compatibility. Regarding power supply, if you get a good enough power supply, even if it has more wattage than you need, the computer will only use up as much as it needs and you shouldn't have any problems. It's actually better to get a power supply with more headroom as you can do more upgrades down the line and the temperatures of the power supply won't be that high as it's not being utilized fully (the more load the PSU has the more heat it outputs). |
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09-07-2011, 08:48 PM
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okay, thanks again everyone~
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10-08-2011, 05:19 PM
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hi again, not sure if I'm suppose to keep all my related computer building questions in one topic but...
I still haven't bought the components for my computer(waiting for my birthday coming up soon) but I noticed one of the parts -the ram- was deactivated, this time I read up on where the name "DDR3" came from, as well as the number "1600" using this link Everything You Need To Know About DDR, DDR2 and DDR3 Memories | Hardware Secrets, (if anyone can tell me if this website is good for learning about different parts of a computer?) and here is a product I was thinking of replacing the now deactivated, Newegg.ca - ADATA XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GC4G9-DG2 with the Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R or Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8. can anyone tell me if these are a good replacement for the previous ram? I read that brands doesn't really matter to much for ram, and that my CPU memory thingy, is capped at 1333Mhz. Also the fact that these cards only mention Intel CPU, does that mean it won't work well with the cpu or motherboard in the build above? As always, thanks in advance! |
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10-08-2011, 10:44 PM
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The Corsair Vengeance would be an excellent choice, but there's no reason to spend that much.
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 |
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10-09-2011, 11:46 PM
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okey! thanks again
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11-10-2011, 01:07 AM
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You are going to have to bite the bullet on the hard drive, the Thailand floods have driven the prices through the roof and there won't be any relief till at least next spring.
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11-10-2011, 03:54 PM
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ah, well fortunetly, i found out that retailers still sell them at the same price (basically half of the cost of newegg atm)
So, here is another question, I looked at the forum post What Power Supply should I get? How many Watts? Who made it? Guide Inside under Computer Hardware in this forum and used the Newegg watt calculator. What I noticed was if I used 2 GTX 580 graphic cards, my watt usage shoots up to 900+ If i was thinking of upgrading or even putting an extra graphic card in the near future, should I just buy a more powerful power supply? Also, power supplies can basically last for a very long time with proper maintenance right? as in i can use it over 10 years from now? Also what is the main difference between ATX12V and a EPS12V ? Last edited by numbawang; 11-10-2011 at 04:03 PM. Reason: more info :D |
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11-11-2011, 11:37 AM
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If you want to use a PAIR of 580's you need to get a certified power supply.
Build an SLI PC - Certified SLI-Ready Power Supplies Newegg.com - Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply |
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11-25-2011, 01:37 AM
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900 watts is major overkill for a single 6950.
Stay away from G.skill ram. Diamond cards are made by Sapphire. You can't put an Intel processor in an AMD motherboard. |
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11-25-2011, 04:19 PM
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I've actually wanted to use 2 6950 graphic card forgot to mention that.
Also for the motherboard how is...Newegg.ca - ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.1) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Can you explain why g.skill ram is bad? can't seem to find alot of comments about it in google, or newegg Last edited by numbawang; 11-25-2011 at 04:26 PM. |
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11-25-2011, 10:08 PM
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G.skill has been having compatibility and reliability issues with the latest Intel chipsets. The Corsair Vengeance is much better ram.
I would get a P8Z68-V or P8Z68-V Pro board. The Antec HCG-750 you were looking at is certified by AMD for two 6950's. |
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11-28-2011, 03:04 PM
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im almost about to make my build come true
Atm im going to stick with the motherboard im using, hopefully it will last me a few good years,(since its the only one with alot of "green" features on them from newegg.) Im also going to use the corssair vengeance that you talked about before, didn't know they did pre testing, but before all of this, i was thinking of using Newegg.ca - Antec CP-1000 1000W Continuous ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Exclusively for - Twelve Hundred(1200)/P183/P193/DF-85 as my power supply, with only 1 6950 2gb card for now, and maybe get another one after a few years to crossfire it. My question is, even though it doesn't say crossfire ready, will it still work for crossfire? I find its like asking, is the apple red, even though it looks red, you are uncertain until somebody else agrees to it >_< Also atm, im trying to find a good GPU of 6950 2gb in Newegg.ca, Closest i found below 300$ is http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...k=False&Vendor Dispite being a "excellent quality brand" there are TONs of compaints about them. And, I was thinking of using seagate hard drive http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16822148840 since thanks to the flood, western digital Hard drives gone up (dispite the fact they moved all the HD to another location during the flood) They are just as good as western digital right? Last edited by numbawang; 11-28-2011 at 03:32 PM. |
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11-28-2011, 03:42 PM
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That power supply will NOT work with your case. It's a proprietary form factor that only fits in selected Antec cases.
Seagates are NOT "just as good" as WD, in my opinion. I'd take a Hitachi over a Seagate. AMD power supply certification: AMD Certified Power Supplies |
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11-28-2011, 04:17 PM
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proprietary form factor" err.. I have no clue what that means but im going to assume its about the dimension differences, like how the one i showed you was 4.7" x 6.9" x 7.9" in that case then.. this one should work perfectly then right? Newegg.ca - Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Also since im never going to use 1tb of space(hopefully i can get them alot cheaper in the near future) What do you think of the WD 750gb one? Newegg.ca - Western Digital Caviar Black WD7502AAEX 750GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive |
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11-28-2011, 04:37 PM
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You don't NEED 900 watts to Crossfire two 6950's, but you can certainly get that PSU. As I indicated in a previous post, a HCG-750 is certified for two 6950's! Have you clicked on my link for the certification list yet?
That WD 750 is an excellent drive. |
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11-28-2011, 04:53 PM
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ahh.. yeah, i'm checking it now, i thought the list was about cross firing but that kinda contradicts the reason why i choose that power supply lol, but yea the power supply is there, HCG-900
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11-28-2011, 05:11 PM
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Now click on Details and you will see HOW MANY of each card it's certified for. Note that the HCG-750 says "2" for the 6950, as does the HCG-900.
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11-28-2011, 08:23 PM
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so that basically means im all set now right? everything should work (unless the delivery messes up/ broke parts)
And.... of course as soon as im about to buy my parts, 2 of my pieces get deactivated @.@... corsair vengeance and the 6950 that i choose is no more >_< how is this ram?http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...ark=False&Vend Also for a 6950 card, which would be a better brand? powercolor, sapphire, msi or xfx? HIS not an option since its over 300$ atm. atm thinking of using this card, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...scrollFullInfo Last edited by numbawang; 11-28-2011 at 08:59 PM. |
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still haven't bought all the parts on my new computer, but as time goes, some products become deactivated,
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