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10-29-2011, 01:55 PM
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Take the nVidia video card: wider bandwidth and CUDA for Photoshop.
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10-29-2011, 02:06 PM
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Good call. Thanks. Yeh not sure exactly when this pruchase is supposed to happen. More often than not my son will finnaggle it soon.
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10-29-2011, 03:04 PM
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What's the budget for a motherboard?
You need more video card and can do with less CPU. |
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10-30-2011, 03:32 AM
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more like this?
Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2300 Sandy Bridge 2.8GHz (3.1GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52300 I keep hearing great stuff about the i5. Trying to put something together using it, and keeping cost as low as possible, without sacrificing quality or stability. Trying to go for a multi function machine leaning towards gaming. I've read up on intel's HD graphics, apparently it's better than entry level discrete cards, but not so for mid range. So I started the build with the i5 2500 and a moderately priced vid card. My initial budget was 6 to 7 hundred, box only. If going intel I may have to go with the i3. Really dont want to. Was considering this: Newegg.com - AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) 4 x 1MB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX as opposed to the i3 The other option would be go with a true budget gamer. Which he woulld be happy with, but I think he would really benefit more from the additonal cores when he's not gaming. When he's online-he's literally online. He loves multi-tasking and the athlon 64 X2 just aint keeping up with him. Shoot I bet a 4 - 5 hundred dollar video card would do near the same for him as an i3 system would for gaming purposes. Of course with that kind of vid card, I'd probably want(or need) to replace the Rosewill 550w psu. Whichever way it goes this build will most likely be at minimum a 5yr build. Meaning he wont see another pc for at least 5 yrs or longer Unless he buys it. I can see maybe an ssd being added later or a larger hdd. But he's got a 320gb now and its not even half full. thoughts/criticisms... Last edited by rwest; 10-30-2011 at 04:09 AM. |
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10-30-2011, 07:16 AM
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Let's do this - list his current components, and we can look at reusing some of them.
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10-30-2011, 10:24 AM
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Compaq Presario SR1625NX Desktop PC Product Specifications Compaq Presario SR1625NX Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)
Original Hdd died..replaced with PATA WD Caviar SE 320w added 2x1gb DDR400 corsair value select to existing samsung 2 x 1gb DDR400 Original Athlon 64 Venice core 3200+ 2.0 GHz cpu replaced with: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ 2.2ghz Original psu removed..replaced with: Newegg.com - Rosewill RP550V2-D-SL 550W ATX12V v2.01 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply added: ATI Radeon HD3870 OC 512mb Gddr4 Pci-E Amazon.com: Visiontek - ATI Radeon Hd3870 Oc 512mb Gddr4 Pci Express Graphics Card: Electronics Sorry, I miss stated the ram earlier as DDR2. It's been a good performer, he just needs and wants more PC. He graduates in january, his B- day is Decemberr as is christmas. He asked my wife if he could combine every thing into one present, she already told him he would get $500 to spend on a computer for graduation. The money is in our savings account. She's mulling over how much the total will be, when she asked me how much it would cost to build what he wants. I said, I thought it could be done for 6-7 hundred but I'd have to piece it out. Her PC was less than $300 bucks, its just a single core Sempron. My daughters Dell cost $650, but she paid for half. The wife doesn't understand the difference, all she does are office programs and email. I know, and so does my son... $500 aint gonna cut it. That's why he's asked for more. I'd really like a suggestion on a budget board for the build, or would the amd quad core be a better choice? as opposed to dropping down to a dual core - which he already has. Of course memory performance will increase no matter which cpu is used. Last edited by rwest; 10-30-2011 at 10:39 AM. |
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10-30-2011, 10:49 AM
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10-30-2011, 01:20 PM
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Here is my thought... Dual AMD Graphics with a Quad Core CPU under 700.00 (624.00)
BIOSTAR TA75M+RCH FM1 Newegg.com - BIOSTAR TA75M+RCH FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with Remote Control AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz 4MB L2 Cache Newegg.com - AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz 4MB L2 Cache Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU AD3850WNGXBOX HIS H667F1GD Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 , I would get the Asus but it is only available with a combo at this time Newegg.com - HIS H667F1GD Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R Antec BP550 Plus 550W Newegg.com - Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136795 ENERMAX LuxuRay ECA3192-BS Blue SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Newegg.com - ENERMAX LuxuRay ECA3192-BS Blue SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case |
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10-30-2011, 02:35 PM
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Okay jdeb, I do like that. Curious though, How would that processor look against something like this with a discrete graphics card:
Newegg.com - AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) 4 x 1MB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX If I were to just go AMD it really changes the game plan. BTW I did notice the board you suggested utilizes usb 3.0 too. I do trust your's and GLC's judgment. Here's the board I was looking at: Newegg.com - ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS Using the card you suggested: Newegg.com - HIS H667F1GD Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity Build's down to $608  631w/ shippingWhich build do you think would be more versatile? I assuming we'll defintely get stronger graphics with the APU huh? Hey I do really appreciate the input. What I'm finding out is that I'm not going to get into an i5 system under $750 without sacrificng something. Don't want to do that, so it looks like an AMd build, since I'm insisting on a quad core.  Hee Hee, I think I just answeed my own question. If I want the pc to lean towards gaming the apu system's on it. How's that line go, "shut up and Listen stupid!" I'll let the wife know where were at cost wise and let you guys know what happens next. Last edited by rwest; 10-30-2011 at 03:24 PM. |
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10-30-2011, 03:31 PM
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You could also trim under 600.00 with this very capable board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138337 Last edited by jdeb; 10-30-2011 at 03:33 PM. |
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10-30-2011, 03:36 PM
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What do I lose with that board? I don't have them side by side to compare.
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10-30-2011, 03:51 PM
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4 DIMM slots vs 2 32GB vs 16GB Greater OC potential but nothing to write home about Additional PCIE slot but MATX has additional PCIX1 Realtec 8 channel vs VIA audio 6 channel (Better Audio) 2 more USB 2.0 ports BIO Remote Also makes a great HTPC as well (future use maybe?) |
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10-30-2011, 04:06 PM
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I'll go with the $69 dollar board and shoot the wife a cost at $700, and then look at a gaming keyboard, maybe a conbo with a mouse. Any suggestions?
Total is at $610 curently.
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10-30-2011, 04:27 PM
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Microsoft SideWinder X6 Black Keyboard Win USB Combo
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more! |
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10-31-2011, 10:39 PM
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That'll work. Thanks.
So the jurys out. Wife's got the budget, and the boy's trying to work the magic.
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11-01-2011, 10:07 PM
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faster ram
Go with 1866 ram if you stretch the budget. It's only a little more expensive and will give you the best possible speed from the system whether you overclock or not.
Check the MOBO compaitibility list for any ram chips you are selecting, as there are more issues with these new AMD chips than other processors. |
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11-02-2011, 06:50 AM
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11-02-2011, 10:41 PM
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Thanks for all the input. But it looks like my boy's losing this one. It was possible untill earlier tonight. He pushed just a little too hard and it turned into a fight. Glad I'm nt 17. Way too much drama for me.
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11-02-2011, 10:50 PM
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11-02-2011, 11:09 PM
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What's more amazing, is how much we find out we don't know, the older we get!
It's a fact. Getting older is no fun, but continuing to find out you really didn't know anything at all, is just making getting older double tuff and lot less fun. The older I get, the more I have found - I didn't know. jdeb likes this.
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