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11-06-2011, 06:03 PM
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new build suggestions please
I've been reading all day this forum.
Old dell dimension 44 2002/2003 just died/dying-no green pwr button just amber,no cpu fan either although mb light is still green.Was getting ready to reinstall windows,opened the case to disconnect second ide storage drive,saw lot of dust,vacuumed, then problems started.Carefully checked inside,seemed ok as far as I can see. Swapped dimension 82 cpu fan and psu to check,but same story.The wife needs her machine asap. I suggested its better to build than to upgrade or buy from dell. Budget:Up to $750.00. perhaps a little more.The machine uses: Occasional photo edting, net browsing,watch 1080p videos,music,email, burnnig, documents ect. Monitor,mouse,keyboard, floppy drive,speakers are not in this budget.I really Don't know if the 2 ide drives and 2 optical drives will be any use in this build at all? I like the z68, but I dont see any pata controllers ?Also this, Newegg.com - ASUS P8P67 LE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard No onboard video? I appreciate your inputs .Thanks. Last edited by Felix k; 11-06-2011 at 06:28 PM. |
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11-06-2011, 07:17 PM
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Sorry, the Z68 has no IDE. The P67 only has one IDE controller and no onboard video.
Now is a bad time to build - hard drive prices are through the roof. Please list the 4 IDE devices you have, and I assume there's nothing else in that machine worth reusing? |
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11-06-2011, 08:15 PM
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2 seagate 7200.7 hdd,(80gb os drive and 160gb data drive).One Plextor PX-708A dvd/cd rewritble drive and one lite-on cd-rw drive all drives are non sata,and Teak FDD Drive.sound braster card, and a network card. Her concern is transfering data from the data drive if the drive could not be use.Thanks. |
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11-07-2011, 10:30 PM
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You don't want the i3-2100, you want the i3-2105. Much better graphics core. The i5-2500K has the same graphics as the 2105.
Whatever you can find for a hard drive that's affordable, grab it up RIGHT NOW. I would be there first thing in the morning to get one of those Blacks before they run out. |
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11-08-2011, 06:33 AM
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11-08-2011, 06:52 AM
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The i3-2125 also has the 3000 graphics core.
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11-08-2011, 09:15 PM
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Thanks,I'm leaning towards the i5 2500k from microcenter. Also, Newegg is out of stock of this :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=gfmqp2gusfqm Microcenter has it in stock,but I want to be sure its the same SSD? http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0364541 Thanks again Last edited by Felix k; 11-08-2011 at 09:26 PM. |
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11-09-2011, 12:41 AM
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Yep, same SSD.
If you grab that Black, you should be able to do without the SSD. Save your money for now. |
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11-10-2011, 11:36 PM
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I'm picking up the parts tomorrow from Micro center, paid for in advance.
500GB Cavier black 6.0GB/s along with 250GB 6.0GB/s cavier blue. Antec 300 case. i5 2500k sandy bridge 3.3GHz. The rest alresdy shipped from Newegg: IDE/SATA to USB 2.0 cable adapter from Computer Geeks.com.Shipped. Antec Earththwatts EA 500G green PSU. Asus P8Z68 V LE 1155 Board. Corair Vengeance 8GB Ram. LG CD/DVD Burner. Windows 7 HP SP1 64-bit. Time revisit 'How to buld computer' link to refresh my memory. Thanks very much ,I'll keep you all updated.
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11-13-2011, 03:49 PM
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Finish my new build out of the Antec box, wasn't able to boot by the use of a small screwdriver to momentarily short the power switch connector on the motherboard method. Cpu fan spins for a milisecond and stops. Deliberately as I was instaling the parts, I still missed this instruction: 7) Connect the power supply to the motherboard with both the 24pin main ATX Power connection and the separate 4 or 8 pin power connection. When I remembered to connect the 8 pin power connector, it booted rigt away, finish assemling the rest of the components and windows and the wife is very happy. So far everything appear running good.  Unless I missed it, Antec 300 case did not come with 4-pin fan cables small enough to fit the 4-pin fan conectors (4-PIN CHA_FAN1,4-PIN CHA_FAN2, 3-PIN PWR_FAN) on the motherboard. Those Antec case fan cables can only fit the 4x molex from the psu,hence the board cannot do case minitoring since no case fan connections to the board.Is that important? If so is there a way arround it? Other than that-no issues. Thanks a whole lot
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11-13-2011, 04:09 PM
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It's not that important as long as you have a fan blowing in and one blowing out. Your system is not creating a lot of heat. There are 4 pin motherboard fan connector to four pin Molex connector adapters in order to power your existing fans or power them with the Molex connectors from your power supply.
Or you can change out your existing case fans for fans that have the small 3 pin connectors and then you would be able to monitor your case fans speeds. Example... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835129055
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11-13-2011, 05:27 PM
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Thanks Davia M. If I understand you correctly about adapters for 4 pin motherboard fan connector to four pin Molex connector adapters ?- I went to Micro center for such an adapters but couldn't find any. I'm yet to purchase and connect fans that blows in,(2 quite front case fans).If I can get a system warning somehow about a fan failure that'll be nice. So far my case fans are connected thru the 4x molex connections by the psu. thus no board monitering in case of fans failures.I like the link,I'll conder it when ready for the front blow-in fans, however,less expensive way for the esisting case fans-if I can get adapters for them to connect them to the board. I like it when the inside of the pc case is cool and quite. Just wanted to add that,this Antec 300 case is outstanding to work with in and out and handsome looking too Last edited by Felix k; 11-13-2011 at 06:04 PM. |
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11-13-2011, 06:51 PM
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You would think Antec would provide fans with both the small and the larger Molex connectors. It's nice to have the option to power the case fans from the motherboard or the PSU.
If you want to be able to monitor their speeds and slow them down so they are plenty quiet but still cool well enough then you can get a fan speed controller. It would mount in an empty drive bay. Examples... http://www.microcenter.com/search/se...x=0&submit.y=0 It's usually no big deal if a case fan fails. They usually start making noise before they do. Most of the time the bearing fails. Last edited by David M; 11-13-2011 at 07:08 PM. |
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11-13-2011, 10:21 PM
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Thanks a lot Davi M, I was having the same thought regarding fan controller while seaching the net for fan adapters.I'll really look into that and see what happen. Something able to control fan noise really good.
Tahnks again.
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11-14-2011, 10:38 AM
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Thank you shout out from me too. Went off the list to build my mom a new system on a budget. Changed out the CPU to an I5 and changed the case but other then that it is a strong set up for the money.
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11-22-2011, 07:38 PM
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I hope its okay to post this,while I'm still reading reviews about fan controls,the below site sent me an email in response to my request about adapters to fit my board fan headers, as always,I would appreciate some input from here confirming that 3-pin fan adapter will work ok with my board 4-pin fan header?
Thanks so much.The below email is response to my inquiry: You'll just need an adapter cable like one of these that has male pins to fit those connectors from your case and smaller female pins to fit your motherboard headers, such as these: 3 Pin to 4 Pin Adapter Cable (12") - Koolertek 3 Pin to 4 Pin Adapter Cable, UV Blue (12") - Koolertek Best Regards, The 4pin header on your motherboard is a PWM fan connector, the 3pin adapter will fit it. The connectors for the fans from your case are only going to be connecting 12V and Ground to the fans they're coming from. 3pin fan headers provide 12V, Ground, and RPM sensing, and the 4pin PWM header adds PWM control. The RPM and PWM pins are of no use when connecting to the big 4pin Molex like that from your case's fans with those big connectors. I hope I explained that in a way that makes sense What I linked to is exactly what you'll need for both the 3pin and 4pin fan connectors on your motherboard.-Nathan Any confirmation about the above statement? Thanks againFelix. |
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11-23-2011, 09:31 AM
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Those adapters offer you no advantage whatsoever over connecting the fans directly to power supply leads.
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11-23-2011, 05:37 PM
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Thanks glc, please a little clarification, you mean those particular adapters in the links offer me no advantage whatsoever over connecting the fans directly to power supply leads, or case fans in general connections to the motherboard? In other words,are there some case fan adapters that have some advantages when connected to the board?
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11-23-2011, 10:30 PM
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Those adapters simply allow you to USE the motherboard headers instead of connecting the Molex directly to a power supply lead. There will be no tach or PWM.
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11-24-2011, 11:27 PM
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[QUOTE=glc;1530965]Those adapters simply allow you to USE the motherboard headers instead of connecting the Molex directly to a power supply lead. There will be no tach or PWM.[/QUOTE
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