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Old 11-20-2011, 12:09 PM   #1
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First Gaming PC Build - Please Help

So ive done a bit of searching around and reading about some other builds for a gaming PC and I have put together what I think (first time doing this) will be a solid gaming rig for new games like Diablo 3 and current games like MW3,BF3 and Skyrim, assuming I want to run these games to their maximum potential and performance using AMD's Eyefinity can people please tell me if this build is both compatible and capable of doing what I want. Any suggestions are welcomed but please keep in mind this is the first time ive done something like this.

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P 1155
Intel Core i5-2500K
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Radeon HD 6950 1GB x2 ( I was told to Crossfire 2 of these?)
WD 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
Lite-On IHES208-08 Blu-Ray Combo (Figured a combo over a drive for each of the CD-ROM and Blu Ray)
Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower
Corsair HX850W 850w

Could really use input from some vets who have experiece.

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Old 11-20-2011, 12:35 PM   #2
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How much do you want to spend?

The more efficient thing is to buy a single 6970. This will allow you to put all your settings on maximum for MW3 on a single 1920 x 1080 monitor and get good frame rates.

I would get Corsair Vengence over the Ripjaw RAM

I would get an Asus board over a Gigabyte board.

An HX 850 is overkill for a single card, single GPU graphics card. A TX 650 will work for that.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:00 PM   #3
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Well im trying to keep it around about $2000 (excluding screens)

So i looked at the 6970 and everyone seems to be talking about "CrossfireX" is this something i should know about and utilize for the gaming side of these cards?

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And please feel free to respend my 2k for something better suited for my needs.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:18 PM   #4
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For $2000, you are above the minimum amount needed to run the most graphics intensive games at full settings at 60 FPS on a 1920 x 1080 monitor. The decision is, do you want more graphics capacity than you really need or would you like to put that same money into a SSD or more drive capacity or both?

The problem with a second card is that they do not scale 100% although some come close. It will be something less. You want to look up how well a 6950 scales for different games if you want to go this route.

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I did the homework. Two 6950's scale the same as a 6990...which is pretty impressive. The 6950's are $250 each and the 6990's are $700 each. So it looks like from the following chart the two 6950's are the better bang for the buck. You will also want the 850 watt PSU for running two GPU's. This for sure will give you enough headroom.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2...amer,2659.html

Someone else can recommend a board that is capable of running two cards with 8 graphics lanes per card....if you choose to buy two graphics cards.

Given how well they scaled and your budget, I think you would be happiest with two 6950's with 2GB of video RAM each. When hard drives drop down to a reasonable price perhaps sometime in the middle of next year then buy one of them.

Crossfire X explanation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_CrossFireX

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Old 11-20-2011, 02:26 PM   #5
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Just over 1400 bucks, this is the most bang for your buck right now:

Newegg.com - Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

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Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

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Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100311-2SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

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Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

Use the small SSD to "cache" the hard drive using Intel SRT, which comes with the Z68 chipset. Buy a bigger hard drive when the prices come back down. The PSU and motherboard can both handle a second 6970 in Crossfire if you ever need it - which I don't think will ever happen.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:38 PM   #6
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Ive seen a lot of stuff about SSD cards. Could you please explain what i would need this for and what it would do for me PC wise. Ive heard some people says boot time is cut to seconds as well as programs opening much faster.

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Also for the Graphics Card would this one do the same job, seems the store near me does not carry the one you had suggested.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...336&CatId=7005

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Old 11-20-2011, 02:50 PM   #7
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Exactly.

It reduces read and write times dramatically but it does not run programs faster otherwise.

If you want to get one then get one that is large enough for the OS and where there is some room left over to load some games onto it. 40 gigs will get your OS loaded onto it but there really isn't any room left for some games and you still have $600 left in your budget....your choice of course.

For an additional $150 with two 5950's you would be able to turn absolutely everything up. You get 2 GPU's for not a whole lot more in the big picture. You get 4X anti-aliasing etc in every game...with the exception of Crysis 2. Even with my hardware I cannot turn Crysis 2 up all the way. In MW3 I can turn everything up all the way. So you should be able to do the same on one monitor with those cards.

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So i would simply turn the PC on and install the OS to the SSD as oppose to installing it to the Regular C: drive it goes to by default?
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:11 PM   #9
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Your OS will assign your SSD as your C drive at the beginning of the installation process. Do not have any other drives installed during the installation process, so your OS only has one drive to choose from.

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Old 11-20-2011, 03:47 PM   #10
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SO i should build the PC with everything i buy, make sure everything is plugged in and then when i boot the PC up it will only see the SSD card and nothing else?? Sorry if these are stupid questions but id hate to mess the entire thing up 30 seconds after i turn it on lol.

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NO - I'm referring to using the SSD as a CACHE for the main hard drive using Intel Smart Response Technology - not as a main OS drive. This can use up to 64gb maximum, that's why I suggested a very reliable 40gb SSD for this purpose.

You need to tell us if you aren't in the US - you just voided my whole list. Please list your general location in your profile so it appears under your username.

This is pretty much the same stuff, it's about $1625 CANADIAN after rebates including shipping:

Newegg.ca - Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular High Performance Power Supply

Newegg.ca - ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Newegg.ca - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9B

Newegg.ca - Western Digital Caviar Black WD7502AAEX 750GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Newegg.ca - Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Newegg.ca - LG Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 10X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal 12X Super Multi Blue with 3D Playback Blu-ray Disc Rewriter WH12LS38 LightScribe Support - Blu-Ray Burners

Newegg.ca - SAPPHIRE 100311-2SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Newegg.ca - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - Operating Systems

Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R1 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
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Sorry, I did not see the suggestion to cache the SSD.
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Sorry for not making it known im from the great white north, i was simply using the NewEgg item numbers and looking them up on the Canadian site. I appreciate the help with hardware selection. Although im still completely clueless about the idea of using the SSD everything else has been completely beneficial to me.

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GLC, evidently the BIOS must be set to RAID mode to enable SRT. If somebody wants to add an SSD with SRT to a build at a later date but they only have one HHD up front is there any downside to starting out in RAID mode?
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Good question! I honestly don't know.
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GLC, evidently the BIOS must be set to RAID mode to enable SRT. If somebody wants to add an SSD with SRT to a build at a later date but they only have one HHD up front is there any downside to starting out in RAID mode?
I think it would only boot into the BIOS every time. I seem to recall I did that by accident on a build. The SSD was accidentally unplugged when I was cable managing or tightening the build up. It will look for an SSD when installing the ISRT software anyway and if one is not there I assume it would not install.
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