$700 ?) Computer build (Help?)

[winch01]

So im trying to build a cheaper Mid-Ranged computer so i can run Diablo 3 and hopefully still be able to use it in the future for games.

I stayed up late last night compiling a list of parts to put into my comp. I wanted to run it by some people smarter than I, to see if it'll all work well together. (I.E. is it all compatible?)
I also was inquiring into what kind of PSU i might need for this. (to allow for future Upgrades aswell as maybe some overclocking.)


So this is what ive got so far. ( any suggestions as far as a cheaper and better part would also be appreciated if so inclined?)

Motherboard: MSI 890GXM-G65 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
($121.99)

CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
($119.99)

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
($59.99)
maybe x2 right away so ($118 )? Do i need that much ram?

GFX: EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
($134.99)
maybe "eventually" x 2 so ($269.98)? Opt out for better GfX card later?

CPU Heat-Sink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
($29.99)

Network Card: TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 Wireless N Dual Band Adapter IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI Express x1 Up to 450Mbps Wireless Data Rates Support 64/128 bit WEP, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK, 802.1x
($44.99)

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
($69.99)

PSU: (Uncertain of how much power I need) plz suggest one that would work with this setup?
( $???)


SUBTOTAL: ($581) + (PSU $$$?)

thinkin about Solid State Hardrive. not sure?
Newegg.com - Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)



Again any help as far as, is this all compatible and will it all function well together is much appreciated. thanks

[glc]

I ran you about 100 bucks over, but this should be more than you need now and will last you quite a while:

Newegg.com - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply

Newegg.com - ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53450

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Newegg.com - LG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - CD / DVD Burners

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (100314-3L )
*OR*
Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

If you really want an AMD processor, I'll let someone else recommend an appropriate CPU and board.

You do not need more than 8gb ram, and you are always better off with one strong video card than 2 weaker ones.

SSD is an option, but you will still need a storage drive and we recommend the Intel 520. Maybe later as an upgrade.

[MaxRat]

yes DEFINITELY steer clear of that MSI 890GXM-G65... they are sluggish and would be fine with that 965 CPU but overclocked very hard they have power issues and the VRMs like to blow off the board. If the Vcore isnt set high enough the BIOS scrambles on overclocks. Stock is fine but under performing. thats the biggest complaint on the board since new and not only that I have one in my main rig and I can back up the info... if you have to do an AMD build stick with Asus or Gigabyte... mainly Asus

[winch01]

So yeah I have heard alot of talk how Amd kinda sucks in comparison to intels line of CPU's. I heard that had more to due with how games beyond (BF3) arnt really designed to use all the cores. so my question is ... Is Ivy Bridge that much better than Sandy Bridge!?... also was thinkin about this CPU.

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

and maybe the z77 sabertooth armor asus board... that looks kinda badass! anyone got a similar setup going that can enlighten me how there system runs. (maybe some specs if you got um.)

[jdeb]

Originally Posted by winch01 So yeah I have heard alot of talk how Amd kinda sucks in comparison to intels line of CPU's. I heard that had more to due with how games beyond (BF3) arnt really designed to use all the cores. so my question is ... Is Ivy Bridge that much better than Sandy Bridge!?... also was thinkin about this CPU. Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K and maybe the z77 sabertooth armor asus board... that looks kinda badass! anyone got a similar setup going that can enlighten me how there system runs. (maybe some specs if you got um.)

There is a very noticeable difference between the Sandy and IVY Bridge. The IVY is clearly faster and the graphics (HD4000) are clearly better. They also use less power which can be huge in certain applications.

AMD is way behind the IVY Bridge but I still use the FX 8 core and the AMD Firepro cards for budget workstation builds. I have no problem with AMD, they have their place like the APU's and HTPC's. The FX4100 is a great value as well for those people that are on a strict budget, I can build a responsive, stable, and low cost machine.

I use the Sabertooth Z77, X79 and 990FX boards for budget workstation builds. I was using the the X58 Sabertooth up until March. Time to move on as the IVY Bridge is an amazing CPU. I am not 100% comfortable with the X79 yet but I am probably going to use them mainly. I have 3 - Z77 Sabertooth's out in the field currently,. They are very stable and I use them in dirty, hot environments. I have one customer with multiple locations that I have been building workstations for over the years. The Sabertooth model has saved them thousands of dollars.

[glc]

When you start talking the 3570K and Sabertooth, you are out of your budget range, but they are excellent choices. If that's what you want, go for it!

If you want to overclock that, get the 212 Evo, not the Plus.

[winch01]

So after going through the intel CPU options, I figured out that most the stuff u mentioned is far better than Amd for like $200 bucks more.
I also like the asus motherboard you suggested. its comparable to that asus thermal-tek-armor board (-minus) the gimmicky PCB plastic ****...

Saw the Video on newegg about Ivy bridge vs. Sandy and I choose Ivy. lol

Im still uncertain about the PSU? will this be enough power to allow for future upgrades like a PCIE 3.0 card (circa 2 years from now)



also (GPU) I was thinking about that sapphire card you mentioned Vs. the Asus card. the price difference is like ten bucks. so what would be the most reliable long lasting card, also which one is better?
(From past experiance with saphire they've kinda sucked for me... so idk? they get any better sense 2004?)
lol

(any other suggestions as far as GPU's??)
and is SSD noticeably better than a regular HDD? cause i kinda got my heart set on at least installing my OS on a SSD from what ive heard about them.
(figure i could use a poopy external drive to store data if I need it. **maybe just buy a real HDD later?)

Keypoints:
*which GPU to get? (I may just wait, as the intergrated HD4500 seems to be able to play Diablo 3 )
*which PSU to get?
*Which SSD to get? (or just stick with HDD?)





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Revised SubTotal of : $781.91 (Including the Coolmaster 212 Evo)

[glc]

650 watts is plenty for any single GPU card made.

Buy it without a video card and try the onboard video. You can add a card at ANY time.

Sapphire is one of the better AMD cards to get. Other good brands are Asus, HIS, and Diamond. The best Nvidia cards are EVGA and Asus.

A SSD boots faster and opens programs faster. If you really want a dedicated one, get a 120gb Intel 520. Another option is a 60gb Intel 520, set up to cache the main hard drive using Intel SRT.

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