Fixing my desktop.

[SARGE]

Well since you asked, just to the right of your CPU cooler, the black thing with 2 hoses, I don't see any RAM modules in the blue slots. Are there any the pic doesn't show?

[glc]

Oh boy..........

Not much worth salvaging there other than the video card. Case is broken. Power supply is an Apevia, which is junk.

Pull the hard drive and test it in your other computer using a USB adapter. That is not a US part number on the drive, it appears to be from Europe.

IDE/SATA to USB 2.0 Cable Adapter w/One Touch Backup - Turn 2020-OTB

I think I see the ram sticks in between the blue slots.

Strip it completely down and test the core components like this:

Having problems with a new build? Try this.

Motherboard is a MSI, and I don't trust it.

Bottom line, you are looking at a fresh build, reusing the video card and MAYBE the mobo/cpu/ram/hdd.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by SARGE Well since you asked, just to the right of your CPU cooler, the black thing with 2 hoses, I don't see any RAM modules in the blue slots. Are there any the pic doesn't show?

Yes, there are 3 sticks of 4GB each.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by glc Oh boy.......... Not much worth salvaging there other than the video card. Case is broken. Power supply is an Apevia, which is junk. Pull the hard drive and test it in your other computer using a USB adapter. That is not a US part number on the drive, it appears to be from Europe. IDE/SATA to USB 2.0 Cable Adapter w/One Touch Backup - Turn 2020-OTB I think I see the ram sticks in between the blue slots. Strip it completely down and test the core components like this: Having problems with a new build? Try this. Motherboard is a MSI, and I don't trust it. Bottom line, you are looking at a fresh build, reusing the video card and MAYBE the mobo/cpu/ram/hdd.

I thought ATX PSU were good and you called it Apevia :/.
Well Ok, now I believe I have to buy that USB 2.0 Cable adapter.
Thank you GLC

[SARGE]

Originally Posted by karapet Yes, there are 3 sticks of 4GB each.

That pic shows the RAM. I couldn't see in other one.

[karapet]

I have ordered IDE/SATA to USB 2.0 Cable Adapter w/One Touch Backup - Turn 2020-OTB this morning, hopefully I'll get it by the mid of the next week (3-7 days).

[glc]

ATX is not the brand name of that PSU, that's the form factor. Take a closeup pic of the label on it, please.

It's good enough to test with and get something running (assuming it works), but it's not one that I would trust long-term.

It's going to be tricky testing the motherboard out of the case with that liquid cooler, but it has to be done. You may have to get a stock-type cooler to do it.

[MaxRat]

as glc said those PSUs are junk... they are know to burst into flames.

If you power it up and you hear a squeal or whine shut it off immediately... It will get louder very rapidly then pop very loud with fireballs... i know first hand i've tested a few and put a slight load on them and they'll most always pop...

[karapet]

Originally Posted by glc ATX is not the brand name of that PSU, that's the form factor. Take a closeup pic of the label on it, please. It's good enough to test with and get something running (assuming it works), but it's not one that I would trust long-term. It's going to be tricky testing the motherboard out of the case with that liquid cooler, but it has to be done. You may have to get a stock-type cooler to do it.

So I need to buy some stock type cooler for testing?

[karapet]

Originally Posted by MaxRat as glc said those PSUs are junk... they are know to burst into flames. If you power it up and you hear a squeal or whine shut it off immediately... It will get louder very rapidly then pop very loud with fireballs... i know first hand i've tested a few and put a slight load on them and they'll most always pop...

Good to know . Thanks.

[Zerk]

From looking at those pictures I would not even try to fix it just get your money back.
If your not going to build one this is a very good gaming build for $1200 with quality parts. And yes that extream power PSU is really bad.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1F1T8B
The mouse and keyboard that comes with it are very cheap probably use what you have.

[David M]

Originally Posted by karapet So I need to buy some stock type cooler for testing?

It would help but is not a necessity if you can manage the liquid cooler out of the case.

[glc]

Originally Posted by Zerk From looking at those pictures I would not even try to fix it just get your money back. If your not going to build one this is a very good gaming build for $1200 with quality parts. And yes that extream power PSU is really bad. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1F1T8B The mouse and keyboard that comes with it are very cheap probably use what you have.

That computer I could deal with. At least you can pick your brand/model components and you chose well. VERY similar to what I'd recommend for a build.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by Zerk From looking at those pictures I would not even try to fix it just get your money back. If your not going to build one this is a very good gaming build for $1200 with quality parts. And yes that extream power PSU is really bad. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1F1T8B The mouse and keyboard that comes with it are very cheap probably use what you have.

Here's the thing. I most likely will get this damaged pc for free, so if I can fix it, I will be fixing it. From what I understand, it's better to build your own with quality parts (I would love to build my on my own) rather than buying already assembled one.
Thank you for the link tho anyway.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by Zerk From looking at those pictures I would not even try to fix it just get your money back. If your not going to build one this is a very good gaming build for $1200 with quality parts. And yes that extream power PSU is really bad. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1F1T8B The mouse and keyboard that comes with it are very cheap probably use what you have.

well Zerk, sorry I responded on your post before even looking at the page thru the link that you've provided. That is some crazy staff.Really cool idea for someone who doesn't really want to assemble pc him(her)self. I'll keep that in mind, but I'm tempted to assemble my pc myself. Will see.

Thank you

[glc]

I'm sure you can fix it, but probably not anywhere near cost-effectively. Seriously, it's only good for parts for your own build. The video card and 2 of the ram modules should be able to be recycled into a new build, and so could the hard drive if it's any good. I DO NOT TRUST that motherboard and PSU, period. Throw that CPU into your i7-920 box as a modest upgrade.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by glc I'm sure you can fix it, but probably not anywhere near cost-effectively. Seriously, it's only good for parts for your own build. The video card and 2 of the ram modules should be able to be recycled into a new build, and so could the hard drive if it's any good. I DO NOT TRUST that motherboard and PSU, period. Throw that CPU into your i7-920 box as a modest upgrade.

I see what you're saying, I'm on the same boat with you on it now...

My idea is...
Once I'll test it and if it works, then I would need to exchange BluRay-Rom (original one is broken) maybe HDD (I'll find out once I'll get my HDD usb inter-connector that I have ordered today) and buy the same factor case to reassemble all the hardware in it, plus prolly simple cpu fan. My thinking, if I'll sell that after it's all fixed up and add around $700 , then it would save me some money for a new build. Plus I will get an experience of assembling and knowledge about the hardware parts.

What do you think. Since I know for sure that BluRay-Rom is no good and I will need that in either case (fail to fix this PC or success), would you give me good recommendations on one from newegg or whatever source you prefer?

Thanks GLC.

[glc]

If (and that's a BIG IF) the motherboard/CPU/RAM/power supply/video card successfully tests out of the case, then you could add some inexpensive parts to make a usable computer. If not, I'd give up and recycle the good parts into a build. The market for used computers is pretty bad, so don't expect to get much out of it - and I'd throw a cheap video card into it and keep that 570 for yourself for a new build.

I'd just get a $20 DVD burner, do you actually need Blu-Ray capability?

[karapet]

Originally Posted by glc If (and that's a BIG IF) the motherboard/CPU/RAM/power supply/video card successfully tests out of the case, then you could add some inexpensive parts to make a usable computer. If not, I'd give up and recycle the good parts into a build. The market for used computers is pretty bad, so don't expect to get much out of it - and I'd throw a cheap video card into it and keep that 570 for yourself for a new build.

Sounds good.

Originally Posted by glc I'd just get a $20 DVD burner, do you actually need Blu-Ray capability?

Not really

[SARGE]

It all begins with power supply. If it's junk doesn't matter what other components are. I'll maybe skimp on other stuff and save a dollar here and there, but power supply I pay top dollar

[glc]

Right, but if the PSU works, it can be put into a new case with some other stuff and sold. I would not recycle it into a build for yourself.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by glc Right, but if the PSU works, it can be put into a new case with some other stuff and sold. I would not recycle it into a build for yourself.

Sure, you right.
Any recommendations on Blu-ray player to buy for this PC to be sold with?

[Zerk]

Originally Posted by karapet Sure, you right. Any recommendations on Blu-ray player to buy for this PC to be sold with?

Their no need to spend the $ on a blu-ray just to sell.
Here is the case you have, a drive, and low priced video card.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QEXe

[glc]

I wouldn't spend the money on a blu-ray, just get a DVD burner. Whatever Newegg has for under 20 bucks and free shipping on the day that you order it. LG, Lite-On, or Asus, I don't trust Samsung.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by Zerk Their no need to spend the $ on a blu-ray just to sell. Here is the case you have, a drive, and low priced video card. Sapphire Radeon HD 6570, Raidmax Blackstorm ATX-615WW - System Build - PCPartPicker

Thank you Zerk,
I couldn't find the same case as this one, but you did .

[karapet]

Originally Posted by glc I wouldn't spend the money on a blu-ray, just get a DVD burner. Whatever Newegg has for under 20 bucks and free shipping on the day that you order it. LG, Lite-On, or Asus, I don't trust Samsung.

OK.

GTX 570 HD vs GTX 660ti for new build, what is better?

[birddog_61]

660ti

[glc]

Not by much though. Using the 570 will save you 300 bucks.

[birddog_61]

Originally Posted by glc Not by much though. Using the 570 will save you 300 bucks.

X2 if I had the choice of 570 free vs full price for 660ti I would take the 570 everyday.

[karapet]

Originally Posted by glc Not by much though. Using the 570 will save you 300 bucks.

True... Minus price of another GPU that I have to buy for PC that I am fixing.

OK. I am keeping GTX 570.