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Old 05-05-2013, 11:03 AM   #31
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Old 05-05-2013, 02:08 PM   #32
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Quadros are workstation cards, not gaming cards, and are not in that hierarchy chart.

You can reuse it as long as it's a PCI-Ex16 card.
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Old 05-05-2013, 06:35 PM   #33
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Oops, wrong link.

Wikipedia: Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units > Workstation GPUs
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Quadro FX 3450 - PCIe x16 - 256MB RAM ...
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:28 AM   #34
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Okay - that is roughly equivalent to a GeForce 6800GS, which essentially has about the same graphics processing power as the onboard Intel 4000 in select Ivy Bridge Intel processors. It's 10 year old technology.
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OK sounds like the 3450 goes out with the old PC. Do new mobo's come with the BIOS already installed, I am reading about folks having trouble getting a new board/build running do to "old" BIOS? In a similar vein; should I keep the old Dell up and running till the new build is up and running? Will I need to download anything to the new build (via the old Dell) before the new one is fully functional?
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Do new mobo's come with the BIOS already installed ...
Yes, the "Basic Input/Output System" is part of the motherboard.


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should I keep the old Dell up and running till the new build is up and running?
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Will I need to download anything to the new build (via the old Dell) before the new one is fully functional?
Probably not, but, you never know.
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Case & P.S. & RAM channels..........

So I'm continuing to look at parts and pieces and plan my new PC and thankfull for all the help here @PCMech. My latest questions:
My room is kind of set up for a horizontal PC so I'm looking at that type of case such as the Cooler Master HAF XB. Is there any down side to that choice? I also like the idea of a modular power supply to not have unused cables all over so any downside to those? If a mobo supports quad channel RAM do you have to start off with 4 sticks or can you do 2 now and add to it later?
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:37 PM   #38
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Admin note - merged threads.

1. The XB would be a good choice. Only possible downsides are a bit difficult to work inside of, less drive bays, and possible cooling issues. With the components I recommended, you shouldn't have any problems.

2. The PSU I recommended above is modular. No downsides these days except possible cost.

3. I didn't recommend a quad channel motherboard, and I won't in the foreseeable future. However, if you were to get one, it will run fine with only a pair, although with a minor performance degradation.
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Old 05-12-2013, 12:57 PM   #39
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What do you all think of the site: PCPartPicker? There is soo much advice out there, hard for someone like me to sort it out. I've never built a PC before but have had 5 or 6 and have put in cards, drives, memory and being a retired industrial electrician I'm not afraid of this kind of work. I went ahead and ordered a power supply (Seasonic X850 Gold something or other) for a couple of reasons: It will get my "feet" wet, no way back now! It will also give me time to look things over, read manuals. I might save some money buying a bundle but piece by piece will work for me. Proable next item will be the case, looking at the Cooler Master XB.
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Be careful buying piece by piece. If you buy something and let it sit around without being able to test it, the exchange period will expire in case it's DOA, and of course the factory warranty starts with your invoice date. Also, by the time you get around to assembling a complete system, some items may become obsolete and/or be available for less money. A case and PSU is safe, but things like motherboards, processors, drives, and ram should be relatively "fresh".

PC Part Picker is okay, but we will always suggest alternates to what you come up with. Also, buying from multiple vendors can be a hassle if you have issues - buying almost everything from a single vendor will get you better customer service if you have issues.

If you are definitely not going to be building for a few months, I would STOP buying parts now. Case and PSU are okay, but please don't buy anything else.
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10-4 I intended to wait to the last for the MoBo and CPU. Your ideas about DOA are correct and a good point.
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