Ram for NF7-S Mothboard

[waazzuup]

Originally posted by Panama Red Hard to say for sure. Their site is a little confusing on which memory you would get if you order. Two different color heat spreaders and A-Data is referenced in the discussion, but I don't see a way to specify Adata memory.

Go here
http://www.komusa.com/51ddrpc50hy.html

Right next to the order button, you can change it from standard memory to ADATA memory.

[Panama Red]

Looks like the same stuff, but there's no way to be sure. Guess you can get it and return it if it's not right.

[Smidget]

Would it be worth jumping from 512 MB 2100 to 512MB 2700? Is there a notible performance difference?

[Tin]

Originally posted by Smidget Would it be worth jumping from 512 MB 2100 to 512MB 2700? Is there a notible performance difference?

there will be a HUGE difference for you, because youre crippling that 2500+ running PC2100 with it. your processor is 333FSB, which is the speed of PC2700 .

[2pacalypse1622]

sry to thread jack but i too am going to build my first rig with a nf7-s mobo and i'm very confused about the ram i'm gonna need to go with my xp 2400 mobile chip..(the 35 watter)...i'm not looking for insane overclocks...maybe something like 200x12...what kinda ram would be best for me?

would the 2 sticks of adata that panama red suggested work nicely for me and in dual channel? or is it overkill for someone who is a noob to overclockin and isnt going to be pushing the envelope..

i'm thinking about gettin two of these and running it in dual channel...


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-211-122&depa=0

[Tin]

Originally posted by 2pacalypse1622 sry to thread jack but i too am going to build my first rig with a nf7-s mobo and i'm very confused about the ram i'm gonna need to go with my xp 2400 mobile chip..(the 35 watter)...i'm not looking for insane overclocks...maybe something like 200x12...what kinda ram would be best for me? would the 2 sticks of adata that panama red suggested work nicely for me and in dual channel? or is it overkill for someone who is a noob to overclockin and isnt going to be pushing the envelope.. i'm thinking about gettin two of these and running it in dual channel... http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-211-122&depa=0

since youre only looking at 200FSB, get yourself some good PC3200 or good PC3500 .

[2pacalypse1622]

sry to make you spoon feed me tin but do you have any recommendations for some good pc 3200 or 3500 ram? i dont really know what "good" timings are..lol i get confused when i see 2-3-3-6 and 2.5 or whatever else there is...

[Tin]

the lower the timings the better. example....2-2-2-5 is faster than 2-3-3-6 or 2.5-3-3-8, etc.

[2pacalypse1622]

i'm gonna assume the closer the timings...the better...

for example 2-4-4-6 would be better than 2-3-5-6..

oh well...time to browse through newegg and see what they have to offer

[Tin]

nope, its the other way around, 2-3-5-6 is faster than 2-4-4-6. i run my memory at loose timings because im at a very high FSB. remember, the lower the numbers the faster it is.

[GimmeDaMic]

I'm probably doing pretty bad off myself, I've got 1x256 PC2100 and 1x256 PC2700 in my comp. Abit NF7-S with AMD 2500+ Barton.
Would another Stick of 256mb PC2700 make a noticable performance boost?

[Tin]

yes, but only as long as you remove the PC2100.

[waazzuup]

Tin Canary - Newegg has that ADATA ram now, but it's $145 a stick. Do you still think I should get that?

[Tin]

i dont recommend the a-data unless youre going for extremely high FSB (230FSB or more). wow, its $145? my friend picked it up like 3 weeks ago for $109 for a 512mb stick.

[waazzuup]

I want to try to overclock my 2500+ to a 3200+ - That would mean the fsb = 200 - right? What do you recommend that I get?

[Tin]

get some good PC3200 or PC3500. if you go to best buy and want to harass the dude behind the memory counter....ask him to see ALL of the kingston value ram PC3200. for 200FSB, you want to look for winbond BH-6 chips. theyre not widely available anymore, but theyre out there. winbond chips are easily recognizable by the W on the memory chip...and the serial number string will end in BH6. if high FSB is your goal, look for Hynix D43.

[waazzuup]

Originally posted by Tin Canary get some good PC3200 or PC3500. if you go to best buy and want to harass the dude behind the memory counter....ask him to see ALL of the kingston value ram PC3200. for 200FSB, you want to look for winbond BH-6 chips. theyre not widely available anymore, but theyre out there. winbond chips are easily recognizable by the W on the memory chip...and the serial number string will end in BH6. if high FSB is your goal, look for Hynix D43.

Ok, I will try to do that. How much will that cost for a 512mb stick? Would you get pc3200 or pc3500? Is there a major difference?

If I can't find any, what else would you recommend?
I can probably spend around $100 a stick (512mb). I would like to get 2 sticks eventually, but depending on the price, I might just get one now and get another later.

[Tin]

512mb KVR PC3200 was $110 last time i was at best buy. im always hanging out at the memory counter .

[waazzuup]

I'm sorry for saying such confusing things.

I think I'm going to buy a 2600+mobile. I would like to overclock it to 2400 or higher. Do you still think I should get the same ram?

Also, what do you think about this ram?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...156-012&depa=0

It's PC4000 though - That's probably too fast - right?

[Tin]

thats actually very good memory. it doesnt use the normal TSOP style chips like all of the other memory uses, it uses BGA chips like video cards use. that kingmax will run 2-2-2-5 @ 200FSB as well. its pretty good stuff.

[waazzuup]

Do you still recommend pc3200/pc3500 with a mobile 2600+ and an NF7-S?

I'm kind of confused when PC4000 would be good. It seems like the FSB would need to be set too high for most processors. I'm sorry if I sound dumb. I am a newbie.

Do you think it would be worth the extra money to get this?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-294&depa=0
I might be able to get it for $230 on some other forums.

[Tin]

if you do the L12 wire trick, you can make full use of that PC4000. even still, its cheap enough that if you wanted to run it at PC3200 speeds, it wouldnt be like youre taking a loss. what kind of cooling do you have? check out the SLK900A or the SP-97, both made by thermalright.

[waazzuup]

Originally posted by Tin Canary if you do the L12 wire trick, you can make full use of that PC4000. even still, its cheap enough that if you wanted to run it at PC3200 speeds, it wouldnt be like youre taking a loss. what kind of cooling do you have? check out the SLK900A or the SP-97, both made by thermalright.

L12 wire trick? Does that include modding? I think that might be a little too tricky for me.
I have a Thermaltake SILENT BOOST
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-037&depa=0

Do you think that Mushkin would be a better choice than that other ram I just linked to? Which is better?

[Tin]

that kingmax really is good stuff. go read some reviews about it, it will do low latencies at lower FSB speeds, unlike the other brands of PC4000. its the best bang for the buck along with a-data vitesta. as for the L12 mod, its quite easy to do, do a google search and you will find alot of guides for it .

[waazzuup]

Is the L12 mod dangerous at all? Would everything still work great if I didn't do the L12 mod?

[Tin]

the only way the L12 mod will damage your system is if you use too thin a copper wire to perform it and a piece breaks off inside the socket. the best wire to use is a strand from a piece of CAT5 cable, thick enough not to break, but thin enough to do the mod successfully. also, you may need a better cooler if you plan on taking that mobile way up there. you could get by with yours, but it will require some modding. get rid of the stock fan and get a smartfan 2 for it. youll also want to lap the bottom of it. start out with 600grit and finish with 1200grit so you get all of the pits and machining marks out of the bottom. easy stuff to do, lapping may take you up to an hour. youll need some wet/dry sandpaper. get a multi-pack with 600/800/1000/1200 grit sizes and youll be good to go

[waazzuup]

I really appreciate all of the help.
I think I'm going to order the kingmax.

Like I asked before, will I be ok if I don't do the L12 mod? What does it really do? Just enable you to raise the FSB slightly higher? I did do a google search and it doesn't look too hard, but I'm still kind of worried that I would mess something up.

[Tin]

on the NF7-S motherboard, most of them cant do more than 220FSB out of the box. the L12 mod makes your CPU default to 166FSB instead of 133FSB. since its defaulting the FSB to 166MHz, its also making your highest attainable FSB higher. on average, an NF7-S with the L12 mod will do about 260FSB. go read up some reviews about that kingmax before you buy it . make sure its what you really want before you drop the cash down.

[waazzuup]

I just ordered 2 sticks of the Kingmax from Newegg. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks for all of the help Tin Canary.

[waazzuup]

I got the ram today.

I am running at 11*200 (equal to a 3200+) with my 2500+. The ram settings I am currently using are 2.5-3-3-6.
I tried moving the fsb up to 210, but windows wouldn't load. I guess I need to do that L12 mod. I am planning on ordering a mobile 2600+ soon, so I will probably do the mod and raise the FSB after I get that.

There are orange stickers on the ram heatsinks that say this...

512MB DDR-500
IC: 32Mbx8
MPTC22D-38HT
S/N: E46014201001

Can you tell what kind of chips they are using by that?