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Old 07-20-2004, 09:24 PM   #61
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hmm..
right now im using a 160GB WD 7200 RPM 2MB cache and its running very fast and smoothly... dont think the 8MB cache will do any big difference, plus, im going to defrag my HD real soon so that'll make it much faster too, thats basically making it go almost as fast as the cache makes it go... :-P
also, the speakers ure getting are amazing, really famous, really cheap (compared to what they're capable of) ure going all the way huh ? lol i would never get that kind of a sound card and those speakers and all those.. i just got a set of 2.1 speakers in staples/office max.. dont really remember, for like 15-20$ and they're really good in my opinion... Cyber-Acoustics is the company...
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Old 07-21-2004, 07:22 AM   #62
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hmm..
right now im using a 160GB WD 7200 RPM 2MB cache and its running very fast and smoothly... dont think the 8MB cache will do any big difference, plus, im going to defrag my HD real soon so that'll make it much faster too, thats basically making it go almost as fast as the cache makes it go... :-P
also, the speakers ure getting are amazing, really famous, really cheap (compared to what they're capable of) ure going all the way huh ? lol i would never get that kind of a sound card and those speakers and all those.. i just got a set of 2.1 speakers in staples/office max.. dont really remember, for like 15-20$ and they're really good in my opinion... Cyber-Acoustics is the company...
Yeah man, I'm going all out on this one. This way if I do it all now I wont have to do a serious upgrade for a year, maybe more. The thing thats driveing me to spend all that cash on it is that I always loved computers and video games since I was 4. I have never owned a PC that I bought and had configured just like I wanted. It was one the people I lived with bought with very low performence for the games I was playing, I have every sims expansion pack and it would take my computer almost an hour to load all my objects and the game. And when I bought Aliens vs Predators 2, it wouldnt even load, at least I never waited because it took so long. So if I have to spend big bucks for my dream PC then by God thats what I'm gonna do!
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Old 07-21-2004, 08:36 AM   #63
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Sorry about that - I usually provide a link to these products, but seems like i was having some time crunches lately. The Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB 256-bit is 197.95 USD with shipping included - bear in mind it is an OEM card, but that shouldn't be any problem.

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Old 07-21-2004, 08:49 AM   #64
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what about nvidia? i dont wanna start a debate, but the geforce 5900xt was a pretty good card (basing this off reviews). its also going cheaper than any 9800pro.
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:17 AM   #65
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what about nvidia? i dont wanna start a debate, but the geforce 5900xt was a pretty good card (basing this off reviews). its also going cheaper than any 9800pro.
very true, good point, but which card is better and cheaper is the question. You tell me
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:19 AM   #66
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plus, newegg.com doesnt carry them, if you know a better card then the ATI Radeon 9800Pro thats better and cheaper by nvidia, let me know and give me a link.
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:23 AM   #67
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what about nvidia? i dont wanna start a debate, but the geforce 5900xt was a pretty good card (basing this off reviews). its also going cheaper than any 9800pro.
very true, good point, but which card is better and cheaper is the question. You tell me
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:29 AM   #68
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Is there a such thing as a internal cable modem?
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Old 07-21-2004, 10:04 AM   #69
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Heres what I got so far for my pc

Outside:
Xoxide X-Blade Extreme Case(Black) case

Logitech Z640 5.1 Speakers(black)

Multimedia Illuminated Keyboard w/ White Keys(Black) can some when tell me if the keys light up white or blue because I want blue and thats what color I think it is. Keyboard

Blue Led Fan Mouse mouse

Xoxide Blue Led Mouse pad pad

Inside:

Intel P4 3.0

Muskin 1GB(512x2)

Audigy2 Z5 Gamer limited Edition

ATI Radeon 9800Pro

Asus P4C800-E Deluxe

Western Digital SE 120GB

Lite-On Combo Drive(Black)

Lite-On DVD-RW Drive(Black)

Sony Floppy Drive(Black)

What do you think? I'm also going to purchase the System Mechanic 4 Pro. I was thinking about buying PC-Cillin or something but when I used that and Norton if you recall from my old theard they didnt ditect the viruses on my laptop. And what power supply should I get? WHat do you guys think?
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:17 PM   #70
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Looks good. I'd go with the Enlight 360W for your power supply.
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:32 PM   #71
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Try again - Newegg sometimes have downages on their server.

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Old 07-21-2004, 12:39 PM   #72
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Is there a major differnce between a P4 2.8 HT and a 3.0 HT?
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:48 PM   #73
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No. You probably wouldn't notice the difference unless you are big on benchmarks.
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:48 PM   #74
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Not really, only they run at different speeds, IMO 200mhz isn't that much of a difference unless you fold, and I doubt it will have a big impact on games.
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so do you think I should go P4 3.0 HT or the 2.8?
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:53 PM   #76
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Depends which you can afford, and if you will notice the difference. Do you run benchmarks? I would go with the 2.8 HT because its more affordable.
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:56 PM   #77
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Depends which you can afford, and if you will notice the difference. Do you run benchmarks? I would go with the 2.8 HT because its more affordable.
No, what are the benchmarks for anyway? As far as I'm concerned, as long as I can play the new games I'm gonna by I'm good. Oh, and how much space do I need for my programs and system stuff? I was gonna split the drive 3 ways, 20GB school, Buisness, and system stuff, 50GB games, 50GB music.
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:00 PM   #78
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I posted in the other thread about partitions.

Benchmarks test your system and give it a score, and processor speed will affect this. IN terms of games, there will only be tiny differences that you cannot see between the two, if any. 2.8ghz is far more than any game will need for a while.
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:03 PM   #79
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Remember, I'm thinking that as long as it can play games fine, you can go with the lower speed. Right now, the 2.8C is a better deal, and I'd recommend it - a 200Mhz difference is innegligible almost.

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Ok, what about the Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro and the ATI one, which one is better? I looked at booth and the only differnce I saw was an S-video output. Then again I'm trying to stay with big names when buying parts.
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:06 PM   #81
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Both are good, and if you don't need S-Video I would get the cheapest. Model Numbers might help though.
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There's almost no difference - the quality and all is the same. I'd get the one you can find for less expensive...probably the Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro.

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There's almost no difference - the quality and all is the same. I'd get the one you can find for less expensive...probably the Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro.

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Is that a good brand?
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Yes, Sapphire is a good brand, actually any VPU using ATI is a good brand. ATI enforces a strict quality control guidlines to which these manufacturers are required to follow - so to assure that all cards are similar to the original ATI-Made cards.

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Yes, Sapphire is a good brand, actually any VPU using ATI is a good brand. ATI enforces a strict quality control guidlines to which these manufacturers are required to follow - so to assure that all cards are similar to the original ATI-Made cards.

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So its ATI brand?
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No, but ATi check it's qualtity, to make sure it is good.
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What do you mean? Sapphire is basically a manufaturer, the ATI part of Sapphire is the chip they're using - the Radeon 9800 Pro Visual Processing Unit. Sapphire uses the chip and makes the physical card - so in essence, it's Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, but it uses the ATI chip, like any other manufacturer .

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So I wouldnt notice the difference in performance?
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It depends on the cards, which two are you comparing?
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Looks good. I'd go with the Enlight 360W for your power supply.
What does the PFC stand for? WHat does it do?
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