$900 Gaming Build- Please Help, again...

[kram 2.0]

Originally Posted by speeddude2000 the 6800 dominates because Doom3 was made on nvidia cards, so the performance is fine tuned. if you get the new ati drivers(4.8) then it should be fine.

Catalyst 4.9 final is out now - fine tuned drivers made just for Doom 3 with the 4.8 performance.

kram

[KoMoDo]

err, someone gave a link a while ago, ill try finding it, it was on these forums i think, not sure.. might've been on some tech news site or something.
i prolly wont be able to find it, ull have to trust me on this one :-P itll pop up somewhere :-P

[speeddude2000]

ok guys lets get back on topic, we sorta drifted....anyways, i was thinking we should try to build an AMD build for amirsan since he has lots of intel builds, lets give him an idea of AMD.

[KoMoDo]

i gave him a real good one, i think its on page 2 or 3 or maybe even 4, im off to bed so i cant really check, heh :-P
check it out though, i bet we can work on it and fix it abit though, maybe :-P

[Amirsan]

Im back! And after much consideration and how I have seen that AMD 64 will be much better and give me a bigger bang for my buck (hopefully 1 gig, 9800Pro) then I will go AMD route.

These are my specs I want, can it be done?
Athlon 64 (Intel Equivilent 2.8 and higher)
1 gig ram
AGP and PCI-E Mobo (so I can start with an AGP vid card, and upgrade later to a PCI-E one)
9600XT or 9800Pro Radeon
80gig space
Windows XP Home

I need everything, even monitor, everything.

Budget is $900

[Amirsan]

Originally Posted by KoMoDo ok, heres an updated list, and ure rdy to get a monitor with this too :-P Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack SP1a - OEM 90$ AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - Retail 146$ CHAINTECH "VNF3-250" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL 75$ Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - OEM 154$ Rosewill 52x32x52x16 CD-RW & DVD Combo Drive, Model C523216, Retail 38$ Western Digital Special Edition 80GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD800JB, OEM Drive Only 63$ KEYBOARD-2000 KB-558BB/P Keyboard and Optical Mouse Combo PS/2 104keys -RETAIL 14.5$ Logitech Z640 5.1 Speakers -RETAIL 43$ Linkworld Black/Silver ATX Mid Tower Case, Model "3210-04-C2628" -RETAIL 25.5$ Rosewill ATI RADEON 9600XT Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "96XT-AD-128C" -RETAIL 132$ Enlight ATX 420W P4 Power Supply, Model "EN-8420934" -RETAIL 39.88$ thats 820.88$ total, and then add your monitor from a retail store, etc. good luck man, tell me what u think, if u need anymore help just let me know! hope that helps, KoMoDo

here is komodo's AMD build pages back... you guys think thats good to go or can be refined?

[GForce64]

Honestly, I'd go PCI Express now. nVidia has released two killer PCI E cards(6600 series) and ATi is about to return with the x700 series. Wait about a week to see how x700 turns out, then go for it.

[Amirsan]

I thought that too... sinse I want to be upgradeable in the future... seems PC-E is he way for the future.

And I may just go for x600 as suggested earlier... and when christmas comes... will I be able to upgrade to a good 9800pro pcx card... or even an x800 pcx for less then $200?

[GForce64]

The X700 is going to have much better performance than the x600 for a similar price.

Edit: If the X700 is anything like the 6600, you probably won't need to upgrade. Benchmarks supposedly come out the 21st, so wait until then.

[Amirsan]

can I have a link to info on the x600 card? like a link from newegg?

[GForce64]

There isn't much info on the x700 yet, but benchmarks supposedly come out in the next week or so.

[Amirsan]

and there is no info on x600 series?

[ric449]

If you want AMD, you can't go PCI Express. Only Intel LGA 775 chipsets support that right now, with AMD PCI Express mobo's turning up early next year.

[timbit]

ric, feel free to correct me if i am wrong, or you know something i don't... but i understood that mobos with nvidia's next chipset, ck8-04, would be showing up withing the next couple of months, maybe end of september even... and it does support both pci express and sli.

[ric449]

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?o...ticle&sid=1247

He suspects November will be the month they will officially be released, but I don't expect they will actually be availalbe to buy until late December or early January.

[Colonel Sanders]

First off, I will recomened an AMD CPU 25% simply because of my bias, 37.5% because they are a little cheaper, and 37.5% because the Athlon 64s are said to be great for gaming.

However, I'm still stuck on an Athlon XP 1800+, it is arguably slower than any other PC in the dorms, one kid even has a laptop with an Athlon 64. However, I keep programs that run at start-up to a minimum (I mean Nero InCD and MBM5 are all that start running when I start my PC). I also install trusted programs, ones that are not loaded with spyware or "extra featues" that I will never use. My hard-drive is also defragmented on a quite regular basis.

What does all that mean? When I click the IE quick launch button I see IE pop up on my PC. On their PC when I click the same button, I wait and IE does not show up. So I try clicking again, wait a few more seconds and for some stupid reason I click again. By the time IE launches I then have 3 windows that I started (Doh!), plus another 2 or 3 that have been launched by whatever spyware is on their PC...

So what I have noticed is that a shiny new P4 or XP-64 will let you run spyware a lot faster, and that is about the only big difference you will see. Don't worry too much about upgradeing, your PC will be "out of date" in a month, but if you maintain it, it will still run great for years. About the only way to keep a PC for a long period of time is to get a non-budget high end PC that will still have enough power to keep up with tomorrows programs. Doom 3 may be the latest and greatest game, but ID knew that they needed to design for last-years PCs.

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[fedz]

Originally Posted by Amirsan and there is no info on x600 series?

Don't bother with the X600, it's just not very good. X700XT or 6600GT is the way to go, although I think in a while 6600Ultra and 6700 series will be the mid-market rulers. ATi are getting kicked at the moment. Take a look at these two threads in A/V:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=110846
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=110010

fedz

[jsawicki]

omg this is a crapload of posts lol.

[Yuanji]

Originally Posted by jsawicki omg this is a crapload of posts lol.

i think this counts as spam and is against forum rules

[Amirsan]

yeah, its alot of posts. :P

And no, I wont go x600 if I can get x700, but ric said AMD doesn't support pce... now I am confused...

[speeddude2000]

amd doesnt support pcie but it will soon. also, hes just saying the x700 is better than 600 for about the same price. also, its weird because in my email notification, heres what it says:

omg this is a crapload of posts lol. u should get this video card. http://www.bose.com/controller;jsessionid=BMswDKZg51SX5yay2zX1aDSR50zTeRjB269GEXFdzviFfSW9pyUH!1401829922!-1457119388?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=ls48_dvd_index&pageName=/home_entertainment/theater/systems/premium_dvd/index.jsp
whats your budget on this system?


and btw, the link is to a speaker system, not a video card. (VERRRRY nice speakers though

[kevinwoodward]

and coming up with a few hundred more and really have a good system?

[ric449]

I think you are a bit late replying to this thread....

[fedz]

let's not dredge this thread up again. Sum1 please close it