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11-06-2004, 06:30 PM
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Just a question.. after a scan from trend micro's house call and a fresh format and install what would be the next step if both of those things dont solve the freezing and error problems?
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11-06-2004, 07:50 PM
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If you do the format and reinstall one step at a time you'll know just where the problems start, if they start.
So check over the bios settings with the manual in hand and don't overclock anything. Reformat and reinstall XP and the motherboard drivers . At this point you can take the XP intro tour and open all the folders, anything that will make windows explorer work. If you don't run into any problems here begin adding to the set-up. SP2 should come next, if it wasn't already on the disk. If it's still fine then do your internet connection. If that's okay then get the video card drivers. Remember to keep the XP firewall enabled ( time from connection to infection on the net has dropped to 8 minutes on average, if you're on unprotected something will tag you ). You can see how this works, if the problem turns up when you first install XP then it's likely hardware, there isn't much else to cause it unless your XP cd is borked and that's not too likely. The later it turns up the more likely it is to be software. The best deal of course is that everything works with no trouble.
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11-07-2004, 10:09 AM
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so far so good... did sp2 and slowly installing stuff.. I am gunna try some of the games that froze before and see if freezing happens..
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11-07-2004, 10:32 AM
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Keep us posted.
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11-07-2004, 02:02 PM
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well everything seems to be perfect..not one problem.. but I dont want to speak too soon
 ..I was able to run 3dmark 2005 without my computer freezing at all.. and none of my games have crashed yet at all...I will see until the end of this week to see if any errors or freezing happens.. but I am sure it will be fine.. Thanks to all the people who helped me out.. especially pam.. your a great help man ! If you still want the 5/USD I can send it to you just email me your paypal account..
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11-07-2004, 02:14 PM
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Nope, no payment wanted.
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11-08-2004, 11:56 AM
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11-10-2004, 02:23 PM
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Bad news once again.. I was playing counter-strike condition zero after I had overclocked my video card .. it froze.. so then I reset the original settings of the video card.. the original core speed and memry speed.. then I was playing doom 3 for about 25 minutes andit froze.. I dnot know if this could be video card related or what.. but this was the first time I actually played a game for a long period of time with condition zero and doom.. beofre I would only play about 5 minutes and that was it..
even before the condition zero and doom freezes I was playing a song I had just downloaded and windows media player caused my computer to freeze 2 times when playing the song.. but I thought maybe it was thee song .. myabe it was corrupted.. ....and I had to reboot in ALL of these situations Whats going on?? Do I just have the worst luck?? nothing wants to work right with me.. 
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11-10-2004, 02:26 PM
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Try running the computer with the sides off and have a small table fan blowing into the case. If the freezing problems go away, you have a case cooling issue (not enough fans, too much wire clutter, etc...).
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11-10-2004, 02:36 PM
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No I dont think thats the case.. I have a thermaltake silent tower heatpipe on my cpu.. and I have 10 case fans..
And I just went o check now I installed MBM 5 to check the temps of my chasis and CPU and it said my cpu was 127C which is not possible.. I think my bios shows 48 C idle for my cpu temp.. but its a pressy so thats why too.. any good programs you can recommend for checking temps ? thanks.. |
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11-10-2004, 02:37 PM
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I did noticed cause I have a lot of stuff hooked to my comp .. the lights on my computer flicker from time to time.. could this be the problem???
i have a 550W PSU.. |
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11-10-2004, 02:43 PM
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There are other things in the computer that can overheat, not just the CPU. I'm wondering if the video card is overheating? I had a old computer that would lock up and the only thing that fixed it was when I put a slot fan under the video card to remove heat from that area. And have you tried another video card? Maybe yours is failing. Cricket
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11-10-2004, 04:33 PM
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If you've reinstalled the McAfee do what glc suggested and uninstall it.
Swap video cards with a friend and see if the problem continues. |
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11-10-2004, 04:44 PM
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I never had a problem with the video card before.. I have had it for like 2months before this on my 2ghz system.. I also mounted 2-3 little heatsinks on the little chips on the card.. so it shouuld be pretty cooled.. Maybe I will try swtching some time this week.. Also I uninstalled mcaffe security ceneter a long time ago.. Using pc cillin 2005 now..
the only close thing, underneath my video card is a system heat blower.. its pretty useless.. but I put on right near the video card so it is sucing hot air from underneath the video card.. thats about it ... as for the brand of the PSU.. I am not even sure..I dont think there is a brand on the PSU.. all I can read off of it is that it says "lead switching power supply".. so its pretty much a no-name one... cost me 70 bucks still didnt awnser any ideas for temp reading programs besides MBM 5? thanks Last edited by andrewy3k; 11-10-2004 at 04:52 PM. |
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11-10-2004, 05:57 PM
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Checking the bios has long been the most accurate way but in the last year or so the board monitors by Soltek and Asus have been accurate.
Keep MBM 5 for now, removing it places in you the position of shooting the messenger(both the too high reading and the lock ups tell you something's wrong). Can you monitor your processor temp over an hour of mild use, say web surfing , and then run something like 3D mark and monitor that? I'd be intereseted to know if your temps suddenly spike. In particular go find that song and watch what happens when you try to play it. |
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11-10-2004, 06:34 PM
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Just a couple of observations. Get rid of McAfee. Whether it is causing the problem or not it is the worse choice in internet security. You mention 10 fans, lights and running a Prescott processor. That's a lot of power demand. Invest in a quality power supply like an Enlight 420 watt. Then make sure that you keep the hard drive(s) on a separate wiring branch.
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11-10-2004, 06:58 PM
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Also, if you've gone through all this steps I would consider just getting a replacement motherboard. Good luck. Last edited by antgross@pacbell.net; 11-10-2004 at 07:06 PM. |
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11-10-2004, 07:15 PM
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Here are a few options...
First off install EverestHome to monitor your power supply voltages... you will find them under "Monitor" and "Sensor" Everest will also show you what your memory is set to.. what its actually running and what it specifically is... it also has a feature for benchmarking your memory... the random freeze-ups could possibly be power related, especially with a recent upgrade.. ------ I also suggest you tweak windows using XPSmoker and TuneXp... XPSmoker allows you 3 uses for free... which is more than enough to turn off unnecessary services, tweak settings and speed up general performance TuneXP does a great job of speeding up startup, shutdown, and changing several settings easily from one place... I also highly recommend RegScrupXP to clean up your registry occasionally... |
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11-10-2004, 07:45 PM
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As I stated before I got rid of Mcaffe I am using pc cillin 2005 ..
as for a power supply.. according to this website which i used before I bought my power supply.. http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/ According to that site I have enough power with still about 75+ watts to spare and thats if my system is using the maximum wattage possible from each device.. I watched my system though for about 2 mintues to see if any flickering was happening but I did not see any flickering anymore.. It could also be because I have quite a bit of power such as fans, system blowers, lights on one line.. its just splitted several times with a y splitter... And I do have all the latest drivers including direct x 9.0c so everything is up to date... I will try and maybe even out all my items through out all 6 of my lines on my PSU instead of just using one line an splitting it.. Here is some pictures to help you guys understand and see what my system is set up as...not the nicest setup but a computer is a computer lol.. thanks Last edited by andrewy3k; 11-10-2004 at 08:16 PM. |
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11-10-2004, 08:13 PM
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Here is the sensor readings I get from Everest Home edition...
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11-10-2004, 08:42 PM
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11-10-2004, 09:09 PM
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was playing counter-strike and my system this time froze and my computer reboot itself..after about 20 mins of playing..
My problems seem to never end Like onestly if someone can like help me to stabalize my system I am willing to pay them like 20 bucks cause this is driving me crazy... |
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11-10-2004, 09:21 PM
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11-10-2004, 09:32 PM
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I'm inclined to agree that the mobo is a strong possibility. Despite your defense of the quality of your power supply, it too, is still suspect. I'd try a different PSU first if it was me.
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11-10-2004, 10:02 PM
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more money down the hole? I wanna wait till pam responds see what he has to say if anything..
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11-10-2004, 10:26 PM
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11-10-2004, 11:05 PM
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I bought it at a local computer store.. its about 2-3 months old.. but I dunno if the warranty is still valid since I installed my thermaltkae silent tower I ripped of the black heatsink bracket to install it.. so I dont think they would take it back or anything like that..
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11-10-2004, 11:21 PM
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Before you go shopping lets try a few things.
If you haven't already tried this, turn off vpu recover, turn of fast writes and drop your AGP speed to 4X. This is all in the control panel for your radeon, you want the smartgart tab and the vpu tab. Try one of your games again and post back the results. Last edited by pam123; 11-10-2004 at 11:24 PM. |
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11-10-2004, 11:36 PM
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okay ill test it tommrow.. thanks
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11-11-2004, 12:13 AM
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You've answered my question about those pics. I know that it can be done and that it has worked but given the way printed circuit boards are made you may have done more damage then you intended. 
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