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shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:32 PM

Dodge: Yes, I hear the drive.

wedor: Yes, when I go to BIOS, it has it as Primary Master.

wedor · 11-05-2004, 06:34 PM

Well then you do not have an electronics problem and a recovery program should be able to find your data.

Put the recovery program on a floppy and let it look at the drive.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:36 PM

GetDataBack is a program that you install on a working computer, then moving the bad drive to the working computer.

I downloaded the Media Tools Professional trial, but I can't seem to get it in a Floppy. I says something weird.

Dodge7 · 11-05-2004, 06:36 PM

I have to say it again... I think at this point having a computer store tech test it would be the best thing to do. You'll know the situation and they have the recovery programs, electroncs testers and such. The worst you can do is try things when you don't know what all is occurring and such.

wedor · 11-05-2004, 06:37 PM

I've never used it so I did not know that.

MTA requires you to register it with them to use it IIRC.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:38 PM

To be specific, when it is at 1%, is says:

Disk error on track 0, head 1
Error in reading

When I click IGNORE it works. Should I just IGNORE it?

Dodge7 · 11-05-2004, 06:39 PM

Yes, try the recovery program.

Wedor, what happened to me is the drive would spin to speed, but the electronics for the read/write had failed. I am hoping it is that simple in this case, or just a matter of using a data recovery program.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:39 PM

Then another one comes.

track 4, head 0

then track 5, head 0

the track 6, head 0.... keeps going...

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:40 PM

What other recovery programs are there that uses Floppy and can actually make the Floppy without registering?

wedor · 11-05-2004, 06:43 PM

That is not a registration error, that is telling you the drive has mechanical problems.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:43 PM

Hmm... now the "working" computer has a drive problem...

wedor · 11-05-2004, 06:44 PM

How can you tell?

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:45 PM

You just said that the Floppy has a mechanical problem. Floppy = drive?

wedor · 11-05-2004, 06:49 PM

No, I was thinking that you had already loaded the MTA program on a floppy and were using ti to look at the drive, I didn't know you were having problems getting it on a floppy in the first place.

Try a different disk.

wedor · 11-05-2004, 06:51 PM

Dodge, an electronics issue would generally not allow the drive to be seen by the system but could easily spin up.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:52 PM

I put in another disk and it's working now. When it is done, I will try to put it in the dead comp. Thanks. I will post as soon as I try. Stick around wedor and Dodge.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 06:57 PM

Okay. I booted the MTP successfully and it regonized my dead drive. What do I do next? There are a bunch of options listed.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 07:00 PM

What I did so far was detected the drive, went to File Recovery Tree, now I am doing the System Components Search. It'll be a while until it is done.

formerjudge · 11-05-2004, 07:04 PM

what model of hd do u have?

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 07:06 PM

Seagate U-Series 120GB 5400RPM is the broken one...

Seagate Barragate 200GB 7200RPM is the new one...

Not sure about exact model names.

wedor · 11-05-2004, 07:09 PM

Sounds like you are in good shape so far, MTP is a bit cryptic in its instructions but the best recovery program I have used so far.

It is also somewhat pricey because you can only buy multi-disk versions, the price is not actually bad per disk but if you have to buy a 25 disk version and only need one it gets a bit silly.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 07:10 PM

wedor: So far, it found some hundreds of directories, and files... Is that good? Does it mean I can back them up?

Also, I just found out you can format drives with MTP. I think I will format the chaos causing drive with it. The 200GB one...

wedor · 11-05-2004, 07:10 PM

How about Barricuda.

ktkendall · 11-05-2004, 07:11 PM

I did not notice anyone mention that if that supposedly faulty drive was formatted NTFS then that would be why dos boot floppy could not read the files on there.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 07:11 PM

wedor: Any chance I can get the serial code? I think I will be buying this product anyway so why give it a full go? O=)

wedor · 11-05-2004, 07:11 PM

Hmmm...the version I have does not do that, are you sure?

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 07:12 PM

ktkendall: The drive I used the MS-DOS boot disk on was infact a NTFS.

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 07:13 PM

wedor: Yes. On the Options list, it says "Format Drive."

formerjudge · 11-05-2004, 07:14 PM

if what u doing don't work right now, then connected the old hd that dont' work to your brother comp and run sea tools online test and see if i can detect the hd link

shifted90 · 11-05-2004, 07:15 PM

formerjudge: I have no idea what you just said. Well, so far, we know that all of the HDs are being detected.

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11-05-2004, 06:32 PM	#61
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	Dodge: Yes, I hear the drive. wedor: Yes, when I go to BIOS, it has it as Primary Master.

11-05-2004, 06:34 PM	#62
wedor Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,801	Well then you do not have an electronics problem and a recovery program should be able to find your data. Put the recovery program on a floppy and let it look at the drive.

11-05-2004, 06:36 PM	#63
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	GetDataBack is a program that you install on a working computer, then moving the bad drive to the working computer. I downloaded the Media Tools Professional trial, but I can't seem to get it in a Floppy. I says something weird.

11-05-2004, 06:36 PM	#64
Dodge7 Member (9 bit) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 317	I have to say it again... I think at this point having a computer store tech test it would be the best thing to do. You'll know the situation and they have the recovery programs, electroncs testers and such. The worst you can do is try things when you don't know what all is occurring and such.

11-05-2004, 06:37 PM	#65
wedor Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,801	I've never used it so I did not know that. MTA requires you to register it with them to use it IIRC.

11-05-2004, 06:38 PM	#66
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	To be specific, when it is at 1%, is says: Disk error on track 0, head 1 Error in reading When I click IGNORE it works. Should I just IGNORE it?

11-05-2004, 06:39 PM	#67
Dodge7 Member (9 bit) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 317	Yes, try the recovery program. Wedor, what happened to me is the drive would spin to speed, but the electronics for the read/write had failed. I am hoping it is that simple in this case, or just a matter of using a data recovery program.

11-05-2004, 06:40 PM	#69
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	What other recovery programs are there that uses Floppy and can actually make the Floppy without registering?

11-05-2004, 06:43 PM	#70
wedor Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,801	That is not a registration error, that is telling you the drive has mechanical problems.

11-05-2004, 06:44 PM	#72
wedor Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,801	How can you tell?

11-05-2004, 06:45 PM	#73
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	You just said that the Floppy has a mechanical problem. Floppy = drive?

11-05-2004, 06:49 PM	#74
wedor Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,801	No, I was thinking that you had already loaded the MTA program on a floppy and were using ti to look at the drive, I didn't know you were having problems getting it on a floppy in the first place. Try a different disk.

11-05-2004, 06:51 PM	#75
wedor Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,801	Dodge, an electronics issue would generally not allow the drive to be seen by the system but could easily spin up.

11-05-2004, 06:52 PM	#76
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	I put in another disk and it's working now. When it is done, I will try to put it in the dead comp. Thanks. I will post as soon as I try. Stick around wedor and Dodge.

11-05-2004, 06:57 PM	#77
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	Okay. I booted the MTP successfully and it regonized my dead drive. What do I do next? There are a bunch of options listed.

11-05-2004, 07:00 PM	#78
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	What I did so far was detected the drive, went to File Recovery Tree, now I am doing the System Components Search. It'll be a while until it is done.

11-05-2004, 07:04 PM	#79
formerjudge Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 106	what model of hd do u have?

11-05-2004, 07:06 PM	#80
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	Seagate U-Series 120GB 5400RPM is the broken one... Seagate Barragate 200GB 7200RPM is the new one... Not sure about exact model names.

11-05-2004, 07:09 PM	#81
wedor Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,801	Sounds like you are in good shape so far, MTP is a bit cryptic in its instructions but the best recovery program I have used so far. It is also somewhat pricey because you can only buy multi-disk versions, the price is not actually bad per disk but if you have to buy a 25 disk version and only need one it gets a bit silly.

11-05-2004, 07:10 PM	#82
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	wedor: So far, it found some hundreds of directories, and files... Is that good? Does it mean I can back them up? Also, I just found out you can format drives with MTP. I think I will format the chaos causing drive with it. The 200GB one...

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11-05-2004, 07:12 PM	#87
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	ktkendall: The drive I used the MS-DOS boot disk on was infact a NTFS.

11-05-2004, 07:13 PM	#88
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	wedor: Yes. On the Options list, it says "Format Drive."

11-05-2004, 07:14 PM	#89
formerjudge Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 106	if what u doing don't work right now, then connected the old hd that dont' work to your brother comp and run sea tools online test and see if i can detect the hd link

11-05-2004, 07:15 PM	#90
shifted90 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	formerjudge: I have no idea what you just said. Well, so far, we know that all of the HDs are being detected.