CPU vs future

[PilotinCommand]

Hi,

Could somebody give me her/his opinion about the following subject.
Looking at the future would you buy an Intel P4 (socket 775) or AMD Athlon 64 processor. Does the 64bit technology from AMD offer enough for the future to buy it now? I see here that there is some kind of EM64T thingie. What is that? Some kind of 64 bit technology from Intel? Is it as good as AMD's 64 bit technology?

I read a couple of reviews, but I need some more opinions.

PiC

[spyder003]

It's going to be a long while before you'll need 64 bit capability. Intel hasn't officially released any 64 bit desktop processors, only in the server line. I plan on buying an A64 in the next week or two, but I'm buying for it's on-die memory controller, not it's 64 bit capability.

[PilotinCommand]

What socket- and coretype do you suggest buying when choosing the AMD64? I've been a while out of the hardware scene.

PiC

[spyder003]

Definitely socket 939. It will allow for more upgrade options in the future and it's nForce4 compatible Socket 754 is the budget line, I would stay away from that if you can. Everyone is screaming Winchester core these days, but it doesn't matter to me. Winchester or Newcastle, I'll take either one.

[PilotinCommand]

Thanks, and what about that EM64T technologie from Intel. It's some kind of 64 bit technology isn't it? Does it offer as much advantages as AMD's 64 bit technology?
Windows Longhorn should become a 64 bit OS if I'm not mistaken? So taking that into acount what's better to buy now? Intel's P4 with EM64T technology or AMD's Athlon 64?

PiC

[TwoRails]

64 bit is the future with 939 on top.

[Antistupid]

I would get the AMD Athlon 64. Socket 939 will be the way to go. Windows XP X64 is supposed to be out during the first half of this year (http://news.com.com/Microsoft+nears+...3-5481660.html).
Microsoft says it will support the Intel Pentiums with the Em64T, but the Athlons are the only home-user CPUs that have 64bit technology support integrated onto the chip.

[PilotinCommand]

So this Em64T technology is more about marketing then performance.

PiC

[glc]

No, it will be about performance when it arrives, this is going to level the playing field once again.

[Avenger]

EMT64 is just Intel propaganda to distract users from AMD64 technology.

If you look at WinXP 64 bit edition, you'll see that the code is almost 100% optimized using AMD64 instruction set (so, what other 64 bit processor they could program for?)

Time will tell

[palloco]

At the moment EMT 64 worths nothing
http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/c...4/32vs64-5.htm

[ric449]

EMt64 is just the same as X86-64, it has to be to enable compatability between the two technologies. The only reason the Opteron was beating the Xeon in those benchmarks is because Opteron is simply a better server processor. But, the 64 bit technologies are the same.

[glc]

EMT64 is just Intel propaganda to distract users from AMD64 technology

It's statements like that which turn these discussions into arguments. There can be just as much said about AMD's marketing tactics.

[PilotinCommand]

Well if EMT64 does the same (or something very similar) then I know enough. EMT64 makes the P4 a worthy competitor on 64bit territory. That's the conclusion, right? The 64 bit benchmarks will be the deciding factor for me, if I were to buy a 64 bit processor. So with the upcoming 64 bit version of Windows XP there's, from my perspective, no real reason not to buy an Intel with 64bit technology. (assuming a future where a lot of applications will be written for 64 bit CPU's).

Or am I concluding to fast here?

Are those Intel P4 EMT64 processors already out in the stores btw? I haven't seen them so far, here in Holland.

PiC

[ric449]

The Xeons have the EMT64, and there are also some P4's in Japan with the technology. They are on their way soon:

http://www.theregister.com/2005/01/2...roadmap_em64t/

[kram 2.0]

Intel v. AMD For future...I'd say Intel but that's by opinion and preference. No more can be said within reason and respect for Intel and AMD.

kram

[digitalfreedom64]

Really doesn't matter to me, just which ever has the best offering at the time I decide I need a new system.

[Avenger]

It's statements like that which turn these discussions into arguments. There can be just as much said about AMD's marketing tactics.

Well, I apologize for being direct and for telling the truth.

[ric449]

But EMT64 and X86-64 are EXACTLY THE SAME. There is no difference apart from a memory addressing technique, which doesn't matter anyway because the memory controller is what decides it. Windows XP 64 bit edition should get the same performance boost from EMT64 as it does from X86-64, since both technologies are the same.

[HAL9000]

Originally Posted by Avenger Well, I apologize for being direct and for telling the truth.

I think GLC warned you once already about such statements... what you gave was your OPINION. Unless you have facts to back up such statements.

[Force Flow]

I'm going to wait for the technology to develop and get past the preliminary stage of production that it is in now.