XP crash loud beeping sound, when playing any game

[Nico]

This is kinda new to me...

I can go online do what ever I want, but as soon as I run a FPS game the compter crashes by freezing and I can hear a loud beeping sound.
This also happend once when I had like 4 - 5 applications running (I think I had Adobe PS and 4 other progs running) same thing happend than, computer Win XP freezes loud beeping noise and I have to hard reset.
First I thoud It was the Grafik card (X800) but since the card was working fine for like 3 month now I'm not so sure.
If I play games with a big Fentilator (big fan you can put on your desk) infront of an open case it works fine

System
Win XP Pro
CPU: Athlon 3000+XP
Ram: 1 Gig 400
12: Gig Hardrive (can't remember what make it was)
Grafik Card:ATI Radeon X800 (I know these can easylie overheat but everything was working fine with this card for month)

I really hope some people have heard of this before and can give me some advice what to do

[Cricket]

Sounds like the CPU may be overheating. How many case fans do you have installed in your computer?

Cricket

[piasabird]

Well a few things could be happening.

Sound card could be bad or have wrong drivers.

Motherboard could be bad or have bad chipset drivers.

Video card could be bad or have bad memory or bad drivers or be seated wrong.

CPU could be overheating or the System memory could be bad or overheating.
RAM could also have errors that are not evident until heavy system use.

Power supply could be bad or not be providing enough watts.

Video card may have an additional power plug that needs to be plugged into the power in a specific way.

[pam123]

If I play games with a big Fentilator (big fan you can put on your desk) infront of an open case it works fine


I agree with Cricket.
You have a heat problem.

[Nico]

okay guys

Thanks for your help ...

I bought me the ATI Silenced cooler for my X800 card, because I was fairly sure it was the Graphic card that had the overheating problem.

I just installed it and same problem happens...

So in this case I could say it is most likley the CPU

Is there a way to check the temp on the CPU in Windows with an additional program ?

Would it help if I take the fan of and put some more cooling paste on it ?

Any help is deeply apprechaited, maybe you guys could tell me how you would aproach this problem

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Nico Is there a way to check the temp on the CPU in Windows with an additional program ?

Try Motherboard Monitor. Make sure your motherboard is supported though.

Originally Posted by Nico Would it help if I take the fan of and put some more cooling paste on it ?

No, you don't want a lot of paste between the CPU and the heatsink...it'll make the heatsink "float" on the paste and you won't get good contact between the CPU and the heatsink (which you need for good thermal transfer to occur). Check if you have too much and remove some if necessary.

Originally Posted by Nico Any help is deeply apprechaited, maybe you guys could tell me how you would aproach this problem

First thing I would do is check that the heatsink is sitting flat and level on the CPU. If the heatsink is even slightly tilted it won't make full contact with the CPU and you'll get heat problems.

If the heatsink is installed properly, make sure you don't have a mess of wires around the heatsink fan. Move them out of the way and tie them back with nylon zip ties.

And do you have any case fans installed? If you don't have any, you gotta go buy whatever size you need and install them. Typical fan set up is 1 fan in the lower front bring cool air into the case and 1 fan on the upper back of the case blowing warm air out.

Cricket

[Anubis2020]

Here is a link to SiSoft Sandra which can show you the temp of your cpu. http://www.sisoftware.net/

I woudn't advise putting anymore thermal paste on the cpu, you only need to have a drop about the size of a grain of rice and spread it around on there. To much paste and it your heatsink won't transfer heat as well. Good luck to you!

[Spaz06]

Originally Posted by Nico This is kinda new to me... I can go online do what ever I want, but as soon as I run a FPS game the compter crashes by freezing and I can hear a loud beeping sound. This also happend once when I had like 4 - 5 applications running (I think I had Adobe PS and 4 other progs running) same thing happend than, computer Win XP freezes loud beeping noise and I have to hard reset. First I thoud It was the Grafik card (X800) but since the card was working fine for like 3 month now I'm not so sure. If I play games with a big Fentilator (big fan you can put on your desk) infront of an open case it works fine System Win XP Pro CPU: Athlon 3000+XP Ram: 1 Gig 400 12: Gig Hardrive (can't remember what make it was) Grafik Card:ATI Radeon X800 (I know these can easylie overheat but everything was working fine with this card for month) I really hope some people have heard of this before and can give me some advice what to do

You answered your own question!

"If I play games with a big Fentilator (big fan you can put on your desk) infront of an open case it works fine "

You have a heat problem!

[Nico]

hi
Thanks for your help

I have taken the heatsink off and completly took all paste off and applied new paste, I put that much on that the complete CPU Core (middle part) was white was that to much ?t ... (I will now that I have read this take it off clean all paste of and put some paste on that is not bigger than a rice corn.

I have checked the heat in the Bios and it goes up to 64 C that's iddle, so I have a massive problem.

Thanks for the Software here is what I got when I check with the Software:
This is with a big fan infront of an open case ... can anybody see anything from the way my bios or setup is that could cause the CPU to overheat ?

SiSoftware Sandra Mainboard Manufacturer : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MP Support : No Model : MS-6570 System BIOS : 11/07/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BM4CC-00 Chipset : nVidia nForce2 ICP System Memory Controller Location : Mainboard Error Correction Capability : None Number of Memory Slots : 3 Maximum Installable Memory : 1.5GB Bank0/1 - A0 : Empty Bank2/3 - A1 : None None None None DIMM 512MB Bank4/5 - A2 : None None None None DIMM 512MB Chipset 1 Model : Nvidia Corp nForce2 AGP Controller Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB i2c/SMBus Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz data rate) Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 2x 200MHz / 2x 200MHz Width : 64-bit IO Queue Depth : 8 request(s) Chipset 1 Hub Interface Type : HyperTransport Version : 0.10 In/Out Width : 8-bit / 8-bit Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate) Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-8 2CMD Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-8 2CMD Channels : 1 Speed : 2x 199MHz (398MHz data rate) Multiplier : 6/5x Width : 64-bit Power Save Mode : No Fixed Hole Present : No Memory Module 1 Model : MDT512M PC400 CL2 Extended Information : WWWMDTDE P13137 M2E-0 Serial Number : 83172007 Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Technology : 16x(32Mx8) Speed : PC3200U 2.5-3-3-8 Version : 1.1 Date of Manufacture : Thursday, May 20, 2004 Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.5-3-3-8 Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.0-3-3-7 Memory Module 2 Model : MDT512M PC400 CL2 Extended Information : WWWMDTDE P13760 M2E-0 Serial Number : 2B2A2007 Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM Technology : 8x(64Mx8) Speed : PC3200U 2.5-3-3-8 Version : 1.1 Date of Manufacture : Thursday, September 30, 2004 Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.5-3-3-8 Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.0-3-3-7 Environment Monitor 1 Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA Version : 2.01 Mainboard Specific Support : No Temperature Sensor(s) Board Temperature : 30.0°C / 86.0°F CPU Temperature : 50.0°C / 122.0°F Power / Aux Temperature : 42.0°C / 107.6°F Cooling Device(s) Auto Fan Speed Control : No Chassis Fan Speed : 4500rpm CPU Fan Speed : 2500rpm Voltage Sensor(s) CPU Voltage : 1.65V Aux Voltage : 1.66V +3.3V Voltage : 3.38V +5V Voltage : 5.05V +12V Voltage : 11.92V -12V Voltage : -11.71V -5V Voltage : -4.95V Standby Voltage : 5.04V AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1 Version : 3.00 Speed : 4x Maximum Data Transfer Rate : 8x Fast-Writes Enabled : No Fast-Writes Support : Yes Isochronous Mode Enabled : No Addressing Enabled : 32-bit Aperture Size : 64MB PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1 Version : 2.20 Number of Bridges : 2 PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk) PCI Bus 1 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk) LPC Hub Controller 1 Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nForce2 ISA Bridge USB Controller 1 Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nForce2 OHCI USB Controller Version : 1.00 Interface : OHCI Channels : 3 Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) Legacy Emulation Enabled : No USB Controller 2 Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nForce2 OHCI USB Controller Version : 1.00 Interface : OHCI Channels : 3 Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) Legacy Emulation Enabled : No USB Controller 3 Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nForce2 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller Version : 2.00 Specification : 1.00 Interface : EHCI Channels : 6 Companion Controllers : 2 Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps) Addressing Support : 32-bit Legacy Emulation Enabled : No System SMBus Controller 1 Model : nVidia MCP2/3/4 B0 SMBus Version : 0A.02 Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No Slave Device Enabled : No PEC Support : No System SMBus Controller 2 Model : nVidia MCP2/3/4 B1 SMBus Version : 0A.02 Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No Slave Device Enabled : No PEC Support : No Expansion Slot(s) PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nForce2 ISA Bridge) PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nForce2 OHCI USB Controller) PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used PCI3 (4h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used PCI4 (5h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available AGP (F0h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available Port Connector PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2 PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2 USB : USB - None / None Performance Tips Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded. Tip 2525 : Current AGP data rate not optimal. Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[Spaz06]

What cpu are you running and what is HSF brand and model are you running?

Yes, you still have a heat problem if you have a big fan blowing on it and its still 50c.

I run almost the same mobo, with a 3000+ XP, and a stock HSF. My cpu usually runs between 34-36c at idle.

[Puffie40]

how are your fans set up? Also, how much airspace is around the CPU? what kind of Heatsink are you using? your heatsink needs a lot of airspace. Try to keep wires and cables out of the way.

Right now, I'd keep the cover off the PC, as that lets air openly enter.

[Nico]

This is my Bios and CPU settings:

SiSoftware Sandra Processor Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ Speed : 2.16GHz Model Number : 3000 (estimated) Performance Rating : PR3136 (estimated) Type : Standard Package : Socket A PGA Multiplier : 13/1x Generation : G7 Name : Duron M10 & Athlon MP/XP (Barton/Thorton) 130nm 1.8GHz+ 1.6-1.65V Revision/Stepping : A / 0 (0) Stepping Mask : A2 Core Voltage Rating : 1.650V Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 34-bit / 32-bit Native Page Size : 4kB Co-Processor (FPU) Type : Built-in Revision/Stepping : A / 0 (0) Processor Cache(s) Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size Internal Instruction Cache : 64kB Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (2163MHz) Upgradeability Socket/Slot : Socket A Upgrade Interface : ZIF Socket Supported Speed(s) : 2.20GHz+ Environment Monitor 1 Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA Version : 2.01 Mainboard Specific Support : No Power Rating(s) CPU Core Power : 70W (estimated) CPU Cooling System Thermal Resistance : 0.41°C/W (estimated) Sensors CPU Temperature : 63.5°C / 146.3°F Auto Fan Speed Control : No CPU Fan Speed : 2482rpm CPU Voltage : 1.63V Features FPU - Co-Processor Built-in : Yes VME - Virtual Mode Extensions : Yes DE - Debugging Extension : Yes PSE - Page Size Extension : Yes TSC - Time Stamp Counter : Yes MSR - Model Specific Registers : Yes PAE - Physical Address Extension : Yes MCE - Machine Check Exception : Yes CX8 - Compare & Exchange Instruction : Yes APIC - Local APIC Built-in : Yes SEP - Fast System Call : Yes MTRR - Memory Type Range Registers : Yes PGE - Page Global Enable : Yes MCA - Machine Check Architecture : Yes PAT - Page Attribute Table : Yes PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension : Yes PSN - Unique Serial Number : No CLF - Cache Line Flush Support : No DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store : No ACPI - Software Clock Control : No (W)MMX Technology : Yes FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes SSE Technology : Yes SSE2 Technology : No SS - Self Snoop : No HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No TM - Thermal Monitor : No PBE - Pending Break Enable : No SSE3 Technology : No MON - Monitor/MWait : No DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store : No VMX - Virtual Machine eXtensions : No EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Technology : No TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No DAZ - Denormals Are Zero : No Extended Features SYCR - Extended Fast System Call : Yes EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes 3DNow! 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Regarding the setup,

Cooler is this cooler : check it here
There is enough space around it,
I have to Fans one on the back sucking air out and one on the frontpannel blowing air in, atm one fan sucking air out right behind the CPU plus one big DESKfan blowing air in.
I checked that no cables are in the way, this motherboard is setup so that you have yo go around with the lead mainboard PSU cables , But I think I have them under controll.
I installed newest Mainboard drivers just in case.

STRANGE THING IS FOLKS

Maybe its the PSU I have a 650 one that pushes hot air on the CPU ?

The PC was fine for a long time, when I bought the X800 it started as far as I can remember but the problem went away and it was okay for a long time.

Any more ideas are very much aprechiated Great help here guys thanks a million

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Nico Cooler is this cooler : check it here

Gee, that's a skimpy looking heatsink. Since it uses a 80mm fan on it, maybe you could install one with a higher RPM so you get more air blown onto the fins. Or you might want to think about getting a heatsink designed for overclocking as they would be better at removing heat from the CPU.

Originally Posted by Nico Maybe its the PSU I have a 650 one that pushes hot air on the CPU ?

What brand is it?

Originally Posted by Nico The PC was fine for a long time, when I bought the X800 it started as far as I can remember but the problem went away and it was okay for a long time.

Have you checked if the heatsink fins are clogged with dust yet?

Cricket

[Puffie40]

Try flipping the fans around. (Air blows in from the back, out the front)

Maybe you could look at a new heatsink...

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Puffie40 First thing I saw when I looked at the heatsink page is that it is a AMD HS. You have a P4, right?

Nico has a AMD Athlon 3000+...it's in the first post of this thread.

Cricket

[Puffie40]

D'oh! Just realized that after posting!