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Old 02-05-2005, 12:20 PM   #1
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sata or ide hardrive?

was wondering what the difference is
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:32 PM   #2
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A SATA drive connects to the motherboard by a thin 7 wire cable, as apposed to the very wide IDE ribbon cable. The fastest IDE ATA 133 is 133Mbps, and the (current SATA) SATA Generation 1 is 150Mbps. Soon to come is SATA generation 2 which is supposed to be at a speed of 300Mbps.
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Old 02-05-2005, 02:47 PM   #3
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o so sata is faster
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Old 02-05-2005, 03:02 PM   #4
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SATA is also hot pluggable - you can remove a SATA drive when the system is turned on, a bit like a external USB drive. It is hot pluggable because it uses a special power plug that when removes disconnects power in the correct way, but with IDE the standard 4 pin plug is used which is not hot pluggable.
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:23 PM   #5
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But to use that feature, one must buy a special case to fit the HDD (in a 5 1/4 bay)?
Or just need to open the case, take the power plug and the SATA cable off and retrieve the HDD?
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:29 PM   #6
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But to use that feature, one must buy a special case to fit the HDD (in a 5 1/4 bay)?
Or just need to open the case, take the power plug and the SATA cable off and retrieve the HDD?
Option 2, IF the mobo supports hot swapping. While the SATA drives may support it when using a SATA power connector, I believe you can't hot swap with a molex type connector.
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Old 02-05-2005, 08:06 PM   #7
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for the "stupid proletariat" who has 40 mbps HDD, the speed boost cant be much.
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Old 02-05-2005, 08:13 PM   #8
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I'm not sure what you mean..A jab at the working class, satire, or that sata isn't much different performance-wise than the standards of the early 90's.
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si us it a waste to get a sata drive cause most of them r ide i think that u find on sale i was wondering if there is a noticible difference
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:03 PM   #10
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Technically I believe that the increase in speed is neglible. I like SATA simply because having that tiny 7wire cable is way better than having a huge, stubborn 80wire IDE cable.

While on this subject, are all SATA drives compatable with SATA Gen2 mobos? What I mean is, if I were to plug in the SATA hdd I have right now on my Abit NF7-S2 into my DFI LANParty NF4 Ultra-D mobo (with nForce 4, that supports SATA 300mb), would this hdd be running at the 300 or just the 150?
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:46 AM   #11
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It won't run any faster than the drive's rating. It's like putting an ATA 66 drive on an ATA 133 controller - it runs at ATA 66.
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http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-350&depa=1
is that n e good
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Old 02-06-2005, 12:44 PM   #13
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It is good, but for a couple more dollars you can double the HDD space if you buy this one at 98 bucks.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-152&depa=1
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its oem thought
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Old 02-06-2005, 01:58 PM   #15
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OEM is fine - what do you need besides the drive? It has a full warranty.
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but then they dont came with the wires i think or someone told me that.
what is oem anyways is it like refeberished stuff or tooken back stuff
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All the cables you need come with your motherboard.
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what is oem anyways is it like refeberished stuff or tooken back stuff
OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer. These are brand new products that are actually meant to only be sold to computer manufacturers, that's why they usually don't come in a box or with fancy documentation. I'm not sure why we're able to buy them directly from Newegg or other vendors though...but I'm not complaining.

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o cool thanks for the help
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