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kol654 · 02-28-2005, 06:09 AM

i recently bought windows XP with the intention of upgrading from windows 98 SE but when i try to install XP i'm told that no hard drive controllers are present and because of that it wont allow me to finish the installation. What are hard drive controllers? What do they do? and does anyone have any advice in relation to my problem?

Cricket · 02-28-2005, 08:17 AM

Hard drive controllers (IDE, SATA or SCSI) should already be on your motherboard. What are the system specs for this computer? Is it a name brand computer or a home built one?

Cricket

kol654 · 02-28-2005, 01:19 PM

Hmmm, the computer is neither a brand name nor would i particularily classify it as home built. I received it a few years ago as a present and as far as i know it was built in a small computer store that builds pc's. so as far as having any definite knowledge about it i'm at a bit of a loss.

From what i can gather my specs are; shuttle AV40/AV40R MAINBOARD, 40GB hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 2, 256MB Ram, Win 98SE

Well, as far as figuring out what my specs are that's about the best i can find.

spyder003 · 02-28-2005, 01:44 PM

Everest is a nice, free little program that will list all of your specs.

***glc*** · 02-28-2005, 04:11 PM

If that's an AV40R, it has a RAID controller, and you will need the driver for it on a floppy. When you first start XP setup, it will say to press F6 to install a third party storage driver at the bottom of the screen. Press it, and put the floppy in, wait a minute or so, then follow the prompts.

ftp://ftp.shuttle.com/Drivers/Raid/Ftwindrvv200b18.zip

Unzip it onto a floppy.

Gizmo · 02-28-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cricket

Hard drive controllers (IDE, SATA or SCSI) should already be on your motherboard.

I'm confused. I thought IDE drives had the controller physically on the hard drive's circuit board, hence why it's Integrated Digital Electronics. From what I've researched, SATA and SCSI have the controllers on the motherboard. I really hope I'm not thread jacking so the sincerest of apologies if I am.

***glc*** · 02-28-2005, 11:29 PM

What do you think you are plugging your IDE cable into?

Gizmo · 03-01-2005, 06:45 PM

Whoops, sorry, I didn't clarify. I meant controller chip. You connect the hard drive to the IDE controller/channel, yes, but what I meant was that I thought the controller chip for IDE was on the actual hard drive and not the motherboard. Oh and is it the controller chip you install the drivers for, or the controller/channel? I'm either having a huge blonde moment or I'm just confusing myself once again. I don't want to take this thread off topic, so if you think it's best for me to start a new thread, I'll do so.

kol654 · 03-01-2005, 07:21 PM

Thanks for all the help everyone, i've finally installed Windows Xp. That file really did the job Glc, cheers.

***glc*** · 03-02-2005, 12:03 AM

There are no drivers for controller chips on the drives - the drivers are for the motherboard controllers.

Gizmo · 03-02-2005, 08:33 PM

Aaah, now I understand. There are controller chips on the drive that control the drive and controller chips on the motherboard which control the drive channels. You need drivers for the motherboard controllers so the channels work so then hard drives can work in them. Now it makes sense! Thanks glc

02-28-2005, 06:09 AM	#1
kol654 Member (3 bit) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6	What are Hard Drive Controllers? i recently bought windows XP with the intention of upgrading from windows 98 SE but when i try to install XP i'm told that no hard drive controllers are present and because of that it wont allow me to finish the installation. What are hard drive controllers? What do they do? and does anyone have any advice in relation to my problem? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-28-2005, 08:17 AM	#2
Cricket Shiro Usagi Premium Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii Posts: 34,002	Hard drive controllers (IDE, SATA or SCSI) should already be on your motherboard. What are the system specs for this computer? Is it a name brand computer or a home built one? Cricket Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-28-2005, 01:19 PM	#3
kol654 Member (3 bit) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6	Hmmm, the computer is neither a brand name nor would i particularily classify it as home built. I received it a few years ago as a present and as far as i know it was built in a small computer store that builds pc's. so as far as having any definite knowledge about it i'm at a bit of a loss. From what i can gather my specs are; shuttle AV40/AV40R MAINBOARD, 40GB hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 2, 256MB Ram, Win 98SE Well, as far as figuring out what my specs are that's about the best i can find. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-28-2005, 01:44 PM	#4
spyder003 Blizzard Fanboy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northrend Posts: 1,411	Everest is a nice, free little program that will list all of your specs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-28-2005, 04:11 PM	#5
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 37,766	If that's an AV40R, it has a RAID controller, and you will need the driver for it on a floppy. When you first start XP setup, it will say to press F6 to install a third party storage driver at the bottom of the screen. Press it, and put the floppy in, wait a minute or so, then follow the prompts. ftp://ftp.shuttle.com/Drivers/Raid/Ftwindrvv200b18.zip Unzip it onto a floppy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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02-28-2005, 11:29 PM	#7
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 37,766	What do you think you are plugging your IDE cable into? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-01-2005, 06:45 PM	#8
Gizmo Supergeek in training Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,690	Whoops, sorry, I didn't clarify. I meant controller chip. You connect the hard drive to the IDE controller/channel, yes, but what I meant was that I thought the controller chip for IDE was on the actual hard drive and not the motherboard. Oh and is it the controller chip you install the drivers for, or the controller/channel? I'm either having a huge blonde moment or I'm just confusing myself once again. I don't want to take this thread off topic, so if you think it's best for me to start a new thread, I'll do so. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-01-2005, 07:21 PM	#9
kol654 Member (3 bit) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6	Thanks for all the help everyone, i've finally installed Windows Xp. That file really did the job Glc, cheers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-02-2005, 12:03 AM	#10
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 37,766	There are no drivers for controller chips on the drives - the drivers are for the motherboard controllers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-02-2005, 08:33 PM	#11
Gizmo Supergeek in training Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,690	Aaah, now I understand. There are controller chips on the drive that control the drive and controller chips on the motherboard which control the drive channels. You need drivers for the motherboard controllers so the channels work so then hard drives can work in them. Now it makes sense! Thanks glc Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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