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Old 12-07-2005, 06:39 PM   #1
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New HS and AS5, Little Annoyed

ok, so i bought a new thermaltake HS and this fan to go on top of it yet my temps have not gone down a lot. i also have three of those fans in the case. my problem is that i have read of people with temperatures 5-10C below mine, on stock claimed by some.

here is what i did. i cleaned the CPU/HS twice, applied AS5 and polished the surfaces with it, twice. then i added a small bead to the CPU and put on the HS. however, it did take nearly 1 hour because the pressure to hold the HS down and screw the screws is impossible, well nearly so and i am a strong person. i had to have a friend hold down the retension bar so i could secure the HS. could the hour of constantly adjusting the HS, and even one time of take it back off altogether, disrupted the AS5. and would this hinder my results? when i took it off the HsS, the AS5 it appeared to be an optimal layer and was well spread out, maybe too thick? i reminded me of the AMD/AS pcitures.

with all this completed, these were my results, before: 42-3C idle; 48-51C full load (AoEIII or Prime95) and after, 39C idle and 46-48C load. i realize that the AS5 needs time to reach full potential, however, shouldnt the combination of a new HS with powerful fan and AS5 dropped my temps more? though, i am pleased with how fast it can drop back down to idle from load. as well, my air flow within the case is good b/c i have a total of 8 fans and i not just pushing air because when i take the case off to test airflow i can feel a considerable draft from my intake to exhaust. however, when my CPU and all case fans are running at maximum power the idle temps can lower to 35C, but i havent tried this with a full load. however, i am in a college dorm and it can get hot QUICKLY in our room, that may be a factor.

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Old 12-07-2005, 06:58 PM   #2
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It can take AS5 up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles (computer being turned on and turned off during normal usage) before it "breaks in". The temp difference won't be much...maybe 5C.

With the better heatsink you should see a reduction in temps, but only if the ambient room temperatures are the same as before. If the room temps are higher, the computer temps will be higher.

Arctic Silver is good stuff, but it's not a magic potion that will drop CPU temps drastically.

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Old 12-07-2005, 07:06 PM   #3
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i realize that AS5 isnt a magic potion but a 2-3C drop with a new HS and all that jazz should result in more drastic drops, well in my opinion at least. i just figured that with so much air flow that i could get below 35C especially since others can get that low on similar or lesser setups. oh and the room temperatures relativly lower now b/c of winter so it shouldn't be a problem as of now.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:31 PM   #4
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Why do you want to get your CPU temp below 35C? A CPU that runs a few degrees cooler doesn't run any better. The main thing is that your system runs stable and performs like it should.

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Old 12-07-2005, 07:33 PM   #5
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Not many newer processors are going to run below 35C with air cooling. You've got good temps, and they are nothing to worry about.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:48 PM   #6
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Your temps b4 you bought the heatsink really werent that bad. One reason your temps are so high is because your graffix card pumps out alot of heat even when its not playing games. I have the same, card and my main problem was overheating.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:45 PM   #7
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the reason: overclocking. when i overclock 300MHz i easily hit 47-49C and if i kept stock cooling that would be a nightmare :P
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:59 PM   #8
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the reason: overclocking. when i overclock 300MHz i easily hit 47-49C and if i kept stock cooling that would be a nightmare :P
I wouldn't even worry about those temperatures. If you were up over or around 60 C, I would start to get concerned, but 50C with that processor is no big deal. My 3500 Venice runs 31-33C idle, 44-46 load, with the Thermaltake Venus 12. These are down about 2C for each measurement since the A5 "set in". Highest I've ever seen it was 49C. Also, the number of fans is nearly as important as placement and how that placement facilitates airflow.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:37 PM   #9
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i know but i have tested thew airflow and there is quite a bit of air moving throughout the case. well, i have noted that around 60C AMD states that the temperature is at the limit before thermal damage may occur. as well, i like cooooooool. :P
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i like cooooooool. :P
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60c isnt the limit, simply a De jure standard set by most of us. Damage accours somewhere at 90c. Ive ran my processor at 61-62c with no heat related issues, and never had a problem. Cooler isnt better, just because your processor runs hotter does not mean it runs slower, nor will it get damaged...it will have a shorter lifespan, but will be quite obsolete by that time anyways.
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How do you know your temps are reported as "accurate"...? even the bios can report wrong temps...

The only true way to know is use a digital pyrometer...Temps will come down as the AS5 breaks in....if you did it according to the website instructions...
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:11 AM   #13
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could the hour of constantly adjusting the HS, and even one time of take it back off altogether, disrupted the AS5. and would this hinder my results?
Do you mean that you took the heatsink off, and then put it right back on? Or did you take the heatsink off, remove the AS5, and reapply?

My understanding of it is that if you take the heatsink off to readjust it, and then put it back on without cleaning off and reapplying the AS5, you can get air trapped in between the AS5, causing it not to cool as well as it should.
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