KingWing Aquastar liquid cooling power??

[chimera007]

Hello, and thank you for reading my post. I was thinking of buying a water cooling system and since it is my first i found that the reviews and what this item at NewEgg.com offers is quite good :: KINGWIN Aquastar AS-3000 Multi-Color LED Light AquaStar Liquid Cooler System :: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835124007.

Sorry for the link posting but i thought it my help you find it. Now the question is how do i power up the unit, it only seems to have some type of VGA connection. I still haven't bought the unit, but will asap i know how to power it up. Make me happy

Thank you - Chimera007

[Cricket]

Check out this review of the AquaStar...there is another power adapter that isn't shown in the Newegg pictures...it connects to a molex power connector from the power supply.

Cricket

[chimera007]

Thanks for replying in such quick notice.

I knew it wouldn't work out of thin air Well thx for the link, taking a look into it. I guess this is the one i am buying. Does liquid cooling work with plain water? If not what else could substitut that green liquid?

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by chimera007 Does liquid cooling work with plain water? If not what else could substitut that green liquid?

Sorry, I can't answer these questions...someone with actual water cooling experience will have to help you with these.

Cricket

[blue60007]

Using plain water is a bad idea - you have to have anti-biological agents to keep algae and junk from growing (I think anti-freeze is used or speciality chemicals similar to anti-freeze - that's why the liquid is green). Also, there's some chemical that goes in to prevent the aluminum typically used in the radiator from reacting with the copper usually used in the heat blocks and causing corrosion (never thought chemistry class would come in handy in computers ).

Before you jump on the water cooling bandwagon I highly suggest searching the web for tutorials and such and learning up on it as much as possible.

EDIT: I think you use distilled water - as plain water from your facuet has all kinds of gunk in it that would clog up the system after time...

[chimera007]

Ok, well thanks for the help Cricket.

EDIT: Thanks for the advice blue60007

[Binh]

Uh, while we're on the subject, has anyone ever used this product? I am on the verge of getting this too. Someone with WC experience think this is a well laid out kit?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Stay stay away from "kits" such as these. Not only are they of poor build, but the performance is mediocre at best. And worst of all, are overpriced. Friends dont let friends buy wc kits.

If your going to do something, do it right, do it yourself.

Make your own watercooling setup. Its the only way to go. Do not waste your money on this.

A decent aircooler of around 40 bucks will not just outperform severly this kit, but will give you more peace of mind.

Its just like paying 3000 bucks for a dell when you can get something of better quality and for the same price, built yourself. Same idea goes for building your own watercooling loop.

[chimera007]

Ok, so what do you suggest i do? I looked a new egg for separate parts and they are expensive. This is my first too... I could first try it, and then if i want more preformance i will get better later date. It is that easy, but if you could point me in the right direction to "finding" cheap good parts to "outpreform" these kits ,i will go for it.

About water cooling i jus tknow this:::

1)Very good radiator(s)
2)Not noisy good pump with container?
3)Pipes(3/8 or 1/4)?
4)CPU water block
5)GPU water block
6)2 Y spliters and a T spliter
7)Many clamps(afraid of these, leakage. The kit above brings nuts on the pipe so can easy screw)

Tell me if i am wrong, but these is looking expensive for now. My upgrade is already costing me 600 USD.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Well whats your budget? I can suggest parts according..

Because for half the price of that kingwin you can get a aircooler that will outperform it.

[chimera007]

I am already spending 600 USDs on my new upgrades... I can't really spend anymore. Kirwig will prove to be a beginners kit... Later i will get some stuff... I looked around and water cooling is extremly expensive!!

[blue60007]

Yes, water cooling is expensive. It's not meant for folks on a budget It's for the hardcore folk who are into overclocking or just want to brag about super-low temps.

[Mr.Ferrari]

I understand what your saying bud, But if your on a budget, then save yourself some money and give your self some peace of mind and choose a 40-50 dollar aircooler which I gurantee will outperform that kingwin unit. And it will probally last a whole lot longer.

Now if you give me your cpu type and socket I can suggest a aircooler if thats what you wanna do.

If you still wanna go water, if you give me a budget, I see if theres anything decent in that range. But your not gonna get everything for 100 or so bucks. Thats not even including the accesories you might need, like blue said, watercooling isnt cheap, and should be done right.

[blue60007]

I'm sure you *can* do it cheap...but it's like using a cheap power supply. I'd hate to see something fail - or worse, gain a leak! Keep in mind there is maintanence involved - have to keep the system clean and topped off and what not. Don't want you to get discouraged, just want to make sure you know what's all involved.

[chimera007]

Well you convinced me, i am buying an AMD Athlon 64 3800+, you prolly know the specs so i don't have to post. Well, i really thank you all, and your saving me money.

Thank you. Lol, how do i super cool my gpu and cpu without water -?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Im assuming its the 939 version and not am2.

For the cpu I suggest one of the following:
Ultra 120 (Best of the best, requires additional fan)
Si-128 (lower profile version of ultra 120, just as good, requires additional fan.)
Scythe Ninja (comes with fan, heavy, you may want to add a stronger fan in the future if it does not fulfill your needs)
XP-90C (great for small form factor, needs additional fan)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 (great for budget)
MST-9775 (great for budget)

I tried to list them from best to worst. But bewarned the likes of ultra 120, ninja, si128 are really heavy and huge. Make sure they fit on your motherboard by going to each manufacturer's site and checking compatibility. Also these might take a little patience to intall, just becareful. Ninja is especially annoying when it comes to installation.

And you said you also wanted a gpu cooler. Youll need to tell me which one before I can make a suggestion bud .

If your going to be going with the ultra 120, si-128 or the xp90c Youll need a fan. What is your noise tolerance?

Quiet fans:
The best quiet series fan in the world. Thruthful specs, great static pressure for 25mm width, The BEST cfm to noise ratio. Quiet as heck, but still responds very good to undervolting if you need it quieter then it already is.
Yate Loon
Another good choice is this delta.
http://sidewindercomputers.com/de12trbllows.html <---best static pressure due to its 3 blade design.

Performance area.
I would suggest a 38mm thick fan, but the clips that come with all the heatsinks are designed for 25mm ones. So 38mm youll need to be creative as far as mounting goes. I.e zip ties, paperclips.
25mm
Enermax Enlobal <---great fan, comes with own speed controller. My personal Choice
Sunon High Med Speed <---great price/performance ratio, not *too* loud, might need a fancontroller depending on your noise tolerance,
Sunon High Speed <---Loud needs fan controller to keep quiet.
Antec Blue<---blue led, bit loud as well

[chimera007]

Well thanks for all the info... I think i might be going for the Sinth, which one do you recomend?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Sinth????

[chimera007]

Sorry, i meant Synthe, but i thought about it and the Best of the Best comes in handy. Living in dominican republic where it is very hot, 32*C is normal.

Yeah, my GPU is eVGA 256-P2-N516-RX Geforce 7800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16. My friend that has a XFX GF-6800 is telling me that eVGA sucks, is this true or he just wants to make me buy something less good :P. Competitive .

[Mr.Ferrari]

I would always personally pick evga over xfx due to their better quality control and overall service.

My two favorites would be Scythe Ninja("Synth" ) and the Ultra 120.

Choose whicheverone you please, but I think ultra 120 would be easier to install.
Remember these are VERY big heatsinks so first make sure your motherboard is compatible and meausre the dimensions and make sure it fits your case. My friend just bought one and man is it one heckofa heatsink.

Ok two good choices on the card.
The zalman vf900
http://www.svc.com/vf900-cu.html
or
Arctic cooling accelero X1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186001

Both top notch coolers. Some beat the other in one card, the other on a different card.

I know I use the Accelero X2 (same as x1 but is for ati card) for my X1800XT.

[chimera007]

Thx alot, well if you say about space... How much is a lot? I have the GiGaByte big heatsinc with fan in it, for the LGA 775. Its huge. If thats the biggest you can get then i have the space :P

[Mr.Ferrari]

Well if you can give me a link or name of your motherboard I can quickly check.

The only thing that sometimes limits the motherboard compatibility is the capacitors around the socket. I doubt that should be a problem. But on the page or the companies website. I should list the hieght and specifications of the heatsink. Just make sure it wont hit the side of your case, if your case is really thin.

[chimera007]

Ok, here is the motherboard i am buying: ASUS A8N-SLi Deluxe -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131517

[Mr.Ferrari]

Should be fine.

[chimera007]

eThx man, you the best