Trouble Installing Optical Drive

[Daydreamer]

back up to post #84.

do you want me to go into the bios and set slots 1 - 4 equal to what is shown in Windows?

then do you want me to leave the IDE's disable in the BIOS and change the CMOS Setup for the detection to that which you have shown?

[Hpro]

Just change to what you see here..

http://www.hecco.ch/images/stand-p3.jpg

Try this one first if it doens't work then we will try the other one..

[Daydreamer]

I see, Type and Mode both to AUTO.

What should the IDE's be set at in the bios. Disabled, Primary, Secondary?

[Hpro]

This what you see is the bios - just set it right like that,

Do you see this screen? when it stalls?

http://www.hecco.ch/images/boot-pci.jpg

[Daydreamer]

What would happen if we removed the IDE and the ASUS CD/DVD and started from scratch?

[Hpro]

The problem is I don't know your configuration to start with.

Second you have only a upgrde WinXP CD - so I suppose you had Win98 installed forehand..

there is the big question = does Win98 Know your SATA CONTROLLER

I personally think we use less time to get this worked out the way we do it..

Starting from scratch means you have to install all the programs again..

[Hpro]

I used to have a Pll - P2B-F Board before - was long time ago . If you look at my Pofile then you see that I'm since 2001 on Pcmech - When I moved back from Asia to Europe I stopped to Post here because of lack on Time..

Two days ago GLC asked me to help you.. OK here I'm to help you and believe me we will be sucessful.
hpro

[Daydreamer]

GLS's a good man, and I am glad that he asked you to help me. I am about 4 years older than you but i can only scratch the surface with hardware and software. But I am willing to try and willing to learn. And yes, I know we will be successful.

I will follow your instructions for whatever you want to do. The reason I ask questions is that I need to understand what and why I am doing something.

While I was offline I tried the following:

I set the CMOS detection exactly the way you had it in your picture.

In the BIOS Chipset where it says Onboard PCI Enable
Test 1 - set it to BOTH and it booted
Test 2 - set it to Primary and it booted
Test 3 - set it to Secondary and it stalled with the message Update ESCD Successfully
Test 4 - set it to Disable and it booted

That's it for now. I must run a couple of errands. Let me know what you want to do. I will be back on line around 2:00 Eastern Standard Time. Probably around 8 or 9 p.m. you time.

Thanks again,

Rick

[Hpro]

Yea don't worry I will be around.. see you later

[Hpro]

Ok Need to talk about your tests - I'm not sure if I know Iwhat you mean.

Regards Chris

[glc]

You can use a XP upgrade CD to install from scratch - you just have to put the 98 CD in the drive during the compliance check. The only thing you will have to do is slipstream SP2 into the XP CD to handle the drive which is larger than 127gb. You may want to consider this - and do the install with ONLY the video card and SATA card in the box, along with the SATA hard drive and ONE optical drive.

[Hpro]

Originally Posted by glc You can use a XP upgrade CD to install from scratch - you just have to put the 98 CD in the drive during the compliance check. The only thing you will have to do is slipstream SP2 into the XP CD to handle the drive which is larger than 127gb. You may want to consider this - and do the install with ONLY the video card and SATA card in the box, along with the SATA hard drive and ONE optical drive.

If he started from scratch then he could Partition the Drive into two 115GB Partition - So if XP-Home only sees 127 never mind, as he afterwards has 2 chances of either edit the Registry manually or put service Pack ll on it which he will need anyway.. this will reveal the rest of the SATA drive and then he can format etc..

But as I read out of his last Post it seems - if he really configured the Bios as he wrote - that the Computer is booting up with the Auto detection enabled for the Primary drive but no drive connected. So if I understand right I think we might solved the problem.

As he changed the MASTER SETTINGS OF ONBOARD PCI CONTROLLER is actually not where he should Change anything except to enable them Both and after use the Standard Settings to Enable - Disable features concerning HARD Drives an Cdrom or Optical drives.

We will know..

My advice would be to

1. Remove the Primary HDD -
2. Use one CDROM / JUMPER SET TO MASTER on Primary IDE Channel which TYPE Settings are set to NONE
3. Use the other CDROM/DVD Drive / JUMPER SET TO MASTER on the Secondary IDE Channel with the SAME TYPE Settings as for the Primary.

Both Slave Channels Set also to NONE.

This as the CDROM /DVD's anyway are Detected by the Motherboards BIOS neverthless the the TYPE Setting. And may are those TYPE settings which Prevents the Computer to normally if those are set to Detect a hard drive which is in fact a CDROM

SAVE & Restart the computer - I'm almost sure that this works out.

Regards


Hpro

[Daydreamer]

Okay, here's the situation.

I have disconnected the "old HDD". I unplugged the power and the data cable. I also unplugged the power and data cable from the "ASUS CD/DVD". The Bios is set exactly as Hpro suggested. In the BIOS Chipset where it says Onboard PCI Enable I set it to both.

The system boots from the SATA, but it always has. Again, the problem is trying to install the CD/DVD.

[Daydreamer]

Here is the latest "snapshot" of Device Manager.

[Hpro]

Hello

I dont see any fault on the picture.. What you mean with install?

It is a normal thing that it will install new hardware..

As long you don't have any exclamation marks is nothing wrong..

So now I think yuo should add the second CDROM as I wrote in my long quote..

Till now we were successful as you have disconnected your HDD and the system starts all the way through to windows

Let me know the outcome of the Second Stage when you connect the second CDROM ..

Sorry been playing Badmington with my kids as it is beautiful weather to do soo...

hpro

[Daydreamer]

Hpro,

I don't want to add a second CDROM, I only want to add one. This has been the problem all along. I have been trying and trying to explain this.

It always booted all of the way through with the HDD and the CDROM disconnected.

I only want the SATA drive and 1 (one) CDROM. As soon as I hook up the CDROM the system stalls.

[Hpro]

OK good
Now I suppose you don't have connected a CDROM -

Try this :
Connect the CDROM you had prior to the ASUS - what happen?

[Hpro]

Originally Posted by Daydreamer Hpro, I don't want to add a second CDROM, I only want to add one. This has been the problem all along. I have been trying and trying to explain this. It always booted all of the way through with the HDD and the CDROM disconnected. I only want the SATA drive and 1 (one) CDROM. As soon as I hook up the CDROM the system stalls.

Have you just one hour ago tried to connect the CDROM as I wrote to you?

It makes no sense if you disconnect both - as we already know that it will boot.

Use the old CDROM instead of the new one .

Let me know to me it looks as we are walking in circles which are of no use.

Hook up the CDROM to the Primary IDE port and set the TYPE to NONE - then boot and let me know.

[Daydreamer]

Okay, I will install the old CDROM to the Primary IDE and make sure type is to NONE. I'll be right back.

[Daydreamer]

Okay, it saw it the old CDROM, but it stalled at the PCI listing screen. Cursor was blinking in the lower left hand corner.

I did notice that 3 Things were using IRQ 9. Multimedia Device, Serial Bus Controller, Simple COMM. controller.

[Hpro]

Okay

What else showed in the PCI LISTING what about IRQ14 & 15 because only those two are actually of interest.

Ok I will write a Step By Step guidance for you - I will place it on my Server and let you know how you can access it. Tomorrow morning - Swiss time it should be online . And please follow it exactly as otherwise it will be hard to find the ERROR..

Can you make a picture from the boot when it stalls? This would help a lot.

See you tomorrow
hpro

[Daydreamer]

Thanks again, see you in the morning!

[Hpro]

Good Morning Daydreamer

I need the EXACT Model Number of your SATA CONTROLLER as I found several on Rosewill Site. Model number would be something like RC-201 to RC-212 except for RC-207 & RC-209 .

hpro

[Daydreamer]

Good Afternoon to you Hpro

I have been trying to get on the system since 4:00 a.m. my time. We had phone line problems somewhere here locally. Could not get a dial tone. Just got it back.

The Rosewill is RC-209. I also copied all of the information you asked for when the system stalled. I will send it in another post.

[Daydreamer]

Attached is a Microsoft Word document that show the contents of the frozen screen. While the system was stalled I unplugged the CDROM. The system came out of the stall and booted.


I hope this is of some help.

Rick

[Hpro]

Hello
Reading the manual of the RC-209
I will be back soon -

How long did you wait when it stalled - untill you Restarted newly?

Regards
hpro

Please look at following PIC. Let me know what on your PC-Bios Featrue SETUP is differend - only for the left side of this pic..

http://www.hecco.ch/images/biosfeset.jpg

[Daydreamer]

Waited several minutes then I removed the data cable from the CDROM. As soon as I pulled the cable it booted. I did not restart the machine.

[Daydreamer]

I just wanted to say thanks to all of you that tried to help me with this problem.

In my case, the only way I could resolve the issue was to use the "clean" command in DISKPART, then boot the system to my Windows 98 disk, copy a few files, then re-boot with my XP Upgrade. I tried it first on my IDE drive. After seeing that it worked I decided to go ahead an do the same procedure on the SATA drive on the Rosewill PCI/SATA card. When I was aked by XP to format the drive I formatted the drive with the long version. It took about an hour. Once XP was installed I set the bios on the ASUS P5-b to boot from the SCSI first. The machine now runs the way it is supposed to.