CPU swap gone bad

[RJTech]

Eagle 300 watt PowerSupply
Sis 730 Chipset 830CF Mobo by Jetway
Amd Duron 1.2ghz CPU Socket 462
128 MBs of SDRAM Ram no brand name on stick
64mb Nivida g-force MX 400 SE video card AGP slot 1x/2x
30gb Maxtor HD IDE conection
Intergrated Audio Sound
Modem 56k V.92 Lunar Express
Windows 98 Second Edition

Computer founded 4 months ago
Bestec 250W PowerSupply
Amd Athlon XP 2000 CPU
ECS L7Vmm Rev 1.0
512 MB of DDR RAM NO BRAND
Seagate 80gb HD IDE Hardrive
Radeon 9000 grahpics card
Inergrated audio
Linkysis Fast Ethernet Adapater
Windows XP SP2

ok here is my problem........ MY pc the first one listed was not booting at all(meaning BIOS OK but no Windows XP Home Edition) and I had tried everything from putting it all together and then swapping parts.... finally I wanted to see if my cpu AMD DURON 1.2 ghz was the culprit....so I swapped the cpu and put in the second pc that is listed and I got nothing on the screen...... then I put back the proccesor a AMD Athlon XP 2000 and It would start(NO BIOS) then shut down and then again.... the thrid time I pressed the power button the pc booted and one post beep and then it had me choose from a list because Windows failed to boot... first I chose Last Good known COnfirguation.... just the white bar and then a blank black screen....SEcond I tried safe mode and the same appeared loading but then blank black screen....so then I tried normal mode and still same result.......
My first tweak was checking all of my connections and reconnecting the hardrive and the power supply and graphics card and the cpu and the heat sink...... so i booted the pc I got post and pressed F8 and tried each mode of windows stated above..... Then i tried booting the pc with the windows XP cd and I got to windows setup and everything was loading kernell devices etc............... finally it said windows is starting up and then I got the blue screen of death and it said to check bois and check all of the settings and disable shawoding and caching and then IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL then below it says may be caused due to hardware change or software change...... then STOP 0x0000007E and the (0x0000005,etc,etc,) and aditional as I tried it would say the same thing but with a different squence of error codes after STOP such as 0x000000A and others......So now I was looking at RAM.... since I had no other swap of ram I just changed RAM on the DIMM module and then I got to windows on normal mode where it said it was starting up.... next I tried a different HD one listed above as a Maxtor 30gb HD and windows 98 is loaded on it... I tried both RAM positions on DIMM and I got Windows 98 to boot but after it says Windows protection error......So then I checked BIOS(just a heads up I had BIOS checked at every start up and restarted the comp... the HD is reconigized) NOW I tried a different PSU a Eagle 300watt powersupply listed above and I got the same result where I would get a good post and BIOS is fine but then I would get to windows is starting up and it would freeze and I tried installing the Windows using a cd XP same out come with the blue screen of death error stop.......I looked all over online for some solutions... Next i i took out the Radeon 9000 graphics card and got wiondows to boot to my desktop and it started loading my startup items and then suddenly froze and then I tried using a ANTEC 450watt psu and I got to windows and my desktop and my startup items loaded and it froze... I tried both methods with the graphic Radeon 9000 in and out with the Antec 450 watt psu........then I tried getting Maxtor 30gb HD tyo boot with the HD connected to the second pc listed and I got the same thing...... I am looking at getting a RAM swap and some thermal compost for the cpu..... I found the motherboard maunal on line and I checked all my jumper settings for not overclocking......

I believe strongly that I switched the CPU AMD DURON 1.2 ghz in the second pc listed on the ECS L7vmm REV 1.0 mobo and overclocked or damaged the socket so my AMD ATHLON XP 2000 which the oringinal cpu listed in the second pc above......

Because my pc(second listed one) had been working fine until I swapped proccesoors to see if my cpu in the first pc listed above was damaged because the first pc listed above would not boot again.....

SO it could be my HD cables???? IDK I sdtrongly disagree but could it be my HD??? nah
Leaning towards RAM or CPU...
Any help would be greatly apreeciated

[Cricket]

First thing I would do is pull the motherboard from the case and troubleshoot on a bench.

Disconnect all unnecessary devices (optical drives, expansion cards).

Swap in a new IDE cable.

Test the RAM with Memtest86+.

Test the hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostic utility.

Inspect the motherboard for bulging or leaking capacitors.

Cricket

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by Cricket First thing I would do is pull the motherboard from the case and troubleshoot on a bench. Disconnect all unnecessary devices (optical drives, expansion cards). Swap in a new IDE cable. Test the RAM with Memtest86+. Test the hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostic utility. Inspect the motherboard for bulging or leaking capacitors. Cricket

How can I get a hold of the maufacturer's diagnostic utility??? and I would nt be able to get memtest86+ because i cant get on the internet......

Motherboard no bulging or leaking capacitors..........

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by RJTech How can I get a hold of the maufacturer's diagnostic utility???

Find out the make of the hard drive and then head over to the manufacturer's web site and go to the download page.

Originally Posted by RJTech and I would nt be able to get memtest86+ because i cant get on the internet......

How are you accessing this web site? You must be on the internet now.

Cricket

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by Cricket Find out the make of the hard drive and then head over to the manufacturer's web site and go to the download page.How are you accessing this web site? You must be on the internet now. Cricket

Yes I am at Brookdale Community College...but how can I get MEMTEST86+ on my pc that wont boot...i cannot copy it on a cd or dvd here at college..... Can I use a USB drive 1GB probably not a enough space......

[RJTech]

http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

http://www.memtest.org/#downcode


which one do I choose?????

[AdamFaulkner]

You would choose the iso.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by RJTech http://www.memtest.org/#downiso http://www.memtest.org/#downcode which one do I choose?????

If you're going to use a USB drive look for this one: Download - Pre-Compiled EXE file for USB Key (Pure DOS).

Cricket

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by Cricket If you're going to use a USB drive look for this one: Download - Pre-Compiled EXE file for USB Key (Pure DOS). Cricket

Thank you I have saved it on my usb drive... but how would I use the memtest off my usb drive when booting my pc would I set boot usb drive on BIOS because memtest is saved on my usb drive as a .zip format????

[RJTech]

Please can someone answer my post above??

[Alaron]

Please be patient.

Just unzip the .zip file and copy the .exe over to the USB drive.

[systempat]

My guess is that it is not the memory or the Hard Drive, as they should not have died from any CPU swap. I'm concerned that the Duron which is a pretty old chip, may have changed some of the settings on the Motherboard, such as voltage to the CPU. When you can boot up and go into your BIOS, find where it says "restore all the default values" or failsafe values, and do that. Might just save you all that other work.

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by Alaron Please be patient. Just unzip the .zip file and copy the .exe over to the USB drive.

Hi I have done that... how do I get the usb disk drive to run when i boot my pc..... i changed the order of boot on BIOS to first boot is USB-HDD and i can't get memtest86 to start....nothing happens after the pc boots and then a screen shows up saying Choose how to start windows safemode, normal mode, last good known configuration....etc......

I took the pc apart and put everything back together...... I started with the minimal requirements:
Bestec 250W PowerSupply
Amd Athlon XP 2000 CPU
ECS L7Vmm Rev 1.0
512 MB of DDR RAM NO BRAND
Seagate 80gb HD IDE Hardrive


I got upto the desktop of windows and the welcome sound came on after my startup items loaded the pc restarted... and now I only get the Windows Advanced Options screen on boot and every choice I choose it just freezes with a black screen.....

I tried different IDE cable and I got the same result.......

I an thinking a simple thermal paste could help.....
I just want to get memtest86 running tonight so I can jump to the shop tommorow morining before college... I just want to make sure what it is causing my problem before I go out spending money on different things....

RAM or Thermal paste are my two guesses.....

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by systempat My guess is that it is not the memory or the Hard Drive, as they should not have died from any CPU swap. I'm concerned that the Duron which is a pretty old chip, may have changed some of the settings on the Motherboard, such as voltage to the CPU. When you can boot up and go into your BIOS, find where it says "restore all the default values" or failsafe values, and do that. Might just save you all that other work.

I tried that Same results............I am going to set all jumper settings to default and take the battery out and re insert it.... read my post below.... thank you I love this forum

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by RJTech Hi I have done that... how do I get the usb disk drive to run when i boot my pc..... i changed the order of boot on BIOS to first boot is USB-HDD and i can't get memtest86 to start....nothing happens after the pc boots and then a screen shows up saying Choose how to start windows safemode, normal mode, last good known configuration....etc......

I think you have to execute the .exe file on a working computer and then it'll create a bootable USB drive bu placing the appropriate boot files on the USB drive so that the computer can actually boot to the USB drive. Once it's does boot to the USB drive you'll have to know how to navigate in DOS so that you can then execute the actual Memtest86+ program.

Cricket

[RJTech]

I can"t get the memtest off my usb flash drive to execute and create .bu format file(s).........................
I got some thermal compound and I am still getting the same results...... I then tried the maxtor 30gb hardrive which i explained above that I used before from the first pc above.... I got to boot into safe mode and was on for aboyut 5 mins and then I got an error message from mrsdvl32 or somethin like that.... I tried to boot windows normaly but i got a fatal exception error (blue screen of death) then my screen had blue lines across and the image on the screen started fuzzing or rapidly shaking..... so I restarted it and everything was fine... I started safe mode and then it asked to set my default settings of resolution to 640X80 and then when I restart i need to boot into safe mode and windows wont boot on normal mode......
I went to local computer shops and bestbuy both have no hardware dianosgtic software that I can buy..... Anyone know of any free online software I can download and save on my usb falsh drive and be able to boot of my flash drive after POST test boot..... thank you.......

[glc]

Call in any favors you may have due, you need access to a computer with a CD burner and Internet. Download the Ultimate Boot CD and burn it. It has all the diagnostics you will ever need.

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by glc Call in any favors you may have due, you need access to a computer with a CD burner and Internet. Download the Ultimate Boot CD and burn it. It has all the diagnostics you will ever need.

Thank you......I have found Winflash and BIOS update for my mobo its a ECS L7VMM 1.0a.

So I am gonna download aall of the software I need on my usb flash drive.....

[glc]

I do NOT trust winflashes.

[RJTech]

I may have a dumb question..... What happens if you clear CMOS??

[glc]

It reverts all settings to factory default.

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by glc It reverts all settings to factory default.

it takes about seven to eight restarts to get my computer to POST...I mean my pc starts(fans and screen) but suddenly it shut downs... I have tried two other powersupplies and I have had the same results....

Would clearing my CMOS help me get windows to boot even after I see the desktop and my pc suddenly restarts?............ After it restarts I get to the windows is starting screen and then it restarts and this proccess keeps repeating about a couple times(I dont have to choose how windows boots and its starts normally) there is no POST beeps and MY BIOS is fine.... CPU has new thermal compound and I am thinking my problem is MOBO or RAM.....

Just to keep in mind this happened after I swapped CPU's from a Athlon XP+2000 to a Duron 1.2ghz and the power supply went on and then I didnt get a post I was stuck at a blank screen...so I turned it off and then I put back the Athlon XP+2000 and this is when the problem started.....

[glc]

Have you turned off restart on error in Windows?

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by glc Have you turned off restart on error in Windows?

I cant browse around on the desktop long enough to do that......

I just bought some new RAM...When I get home I will try the RAM....

[glc]

What about safe mode?

[RJTech]

Originally Posted by glc What about safe mode?

sometimes it would load and then my pc would restart after the desktop appears and sometimes it starts booting safemode and then freezes....
I got a extra 512MBs of DDR RAM PC2100 and I tried startying up my PC but I get the same reults like I stated above...I also tried each stick of RAM at one time and still no luck.... I put my video card back on the mobo and the modem card and hooked up my DVD drive and CD drive to the powersupply and still no luck...then I tried a 450watt Antec PSU and no luck....
I tried another PSU a Eagle 300watt and still no luck... I am down to a Mobo so I guess I have to buy one online...no local stores have a mobo I can swap......

[glc]

Considering it's an ECS, it wouldn't surprise me if it went sour.