water cooling

[Chris Linder]

Guys
I would love to get some water cooling put on my system but am a little unsure about what I should get. Iv built a sweet system and would hate to put something that would harm it in.

MoBo - Asus camando
evga - 8800 GTS
Coseair - XMS 2G
Win XP Pro
Intel - core 2 extream 2.6

I was looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835128015

but I get the feeling that its cheep. do I need to put one together peace by peace. and if so could you guys give me some newegg links of some nice ones . Looking to spend about 300




Thanks

[shadowpr]

Originally Posted by 1life2live4 Iv built a sweet system and would hate to put something that would harm it in.

I know it's been said before on these boards, but water and electronics don't mix. If you really don't want to take the chance of hurting you computer, then don't use water. Air cooling is usually more than enough for most people, unless you're trying to do some extreme overclocking.

[corksil]

To do it up right, I would recommend buying a separate pump, radiator, tubing, reservoirs etc.

I got my equipment from this link.

[David M]

Originally Posted by 1life2live4 Guys I would love to get some water cooling put on my system but am a little unsure about what I should get. Iv built a sweet system and would hate to put something that would harm it in. MoBo - Asus camando evga - 8800 GTS Coseair - XMS 2G Win XP Pro Intel - core 2 extream 2.6 I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835128015 but I get the feeling that its cheep. do I need to put one together peace by peace. and if so could you guys give me some newegg links of some nice ones . Looking to spend about 300 Thanks

$300 bucks will get you cheap watercooling. You have to answer the following questions for yourself though:

How much do I want to overclock? You can overclock with large aftermarket air cooled heatsinks and keep things relatively safe for your components and relatively inexpensive

Can I afford to replace whatever a water spill might destroy? How fat is your wallet?

Do I want watercooling to quiet things down? If so, ou will need to spend more than $300 to do so. Because you will need waterblocks for your CPU, waterblocks for your graphics card(s) and any waterblocks for any noisy little fans on the motherboard. You may also need to replace your PSU with a quieter one and possibly more powerful one, because now you will also be hearing the PSU plus it will be powering your waterpump. $cha-ching$

Is "extreme" overclocking versus not so extreme overclocking worth the difference in price between watercooling and heavy duty air cooling? The difference can be significant depending on how much heat removal capacity you want.

Those are all things you need to consider first.

[amdalex]

I if your CPU is running hot a Zalman 9700 can any cpu. Water cooling is mostly for show. Or you could seal up your case and fill it with cooking oil.

[David M]

Originally Posted by amdalex Water cooling is mostly for show.

I have to disagree. Watercooling is useful if you REALLY want to overclock. An added benefit is the quiet. I am building a new computer right now where the most important thing is for it to be quiet to the point where you cant even tell it is running in the same room. Given that it is going to be watercooled, why not overclock it?

[faint545]

Also, if you do plan on going that route, I would probably do a custom liquid cooling system. Water cooling is also high maintenance. The main benefits of this is reduction of noise, and lower temperature, but air cooling can also provide similar temps.

[David M]

Originally Posted by faint545 Also, if you do plan on going that route, I would probably do a custom liquid cooling system. Water cooling is also high maintenance. The main benefits of this is reduction of noise, and lower temperature, but air cooling can also provide similar temps.

What high maintenance?...changing the coolant once a year? Quite honestly, thats the only maintenance I do with my watercooled system. Of course there is blowing the dust out of the system with an air hose maybe twice a year...but that applies to air cooled systems as well.

[glc]

Yeah, and when we were screwing around with your system troubleshooting it last spring the radiator and all that piping was a pain in the REAR.

[David M]

Hi George,
I agree. It's tight because the radiator is halfway inside the top of a midsize case which makes the radiator much to close to the edge of an upside down motherboard. As far as maintenance goes, there is almost none.

In fact, Maximum PC just did a review on my exact case/radiator combination in the March issue. They gave it a five on a ten scale (bad), saying pretty much the same exact thing that it is too crowded.

I just bought a full sized Lian-Li case this time and am going to install the same radiator. This time with lots more room.

Live and learn.

David

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=180

[Chris Linder]

OK guys Im looking for something simple here. I was thinking

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106078

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106077

Just wana overclock the processor a little , Im at like 117F when I play for like an hour so if I over clock a little i know ill be like around 120F. + I wouldnt mind my system to be a little more quiet. You guys should see this thing : )

http://picasaweb.google.com/cslat2407/1life2live4System

[shadowpr]

If you just want better cooling for a mild overclock, then just get a better heatsink.

And those temps aren't that bad.

[Chris Linder]

O.K. Could you recommend a good heatsink from Newegg for me. I would feel much better using one that one of you guys could recmmend!! Also if I did just want to cool the processor would thos water cooling blocks be O.K. I may need it for my next system coming up. Must have DDR3 with a quad soon.



Thanks...

[shadowpr]

The best you can basically get with air cooling is the Thermalright IFX-14: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thifforinlga.html

The next best is the Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thulex.html

I have it's little brother which is just a slight step down. It's the Ultima 90: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thulforinso7.html

Neither of those come with fans. The fans must be bought seperately.

After those, neither of which I believe are sold at newegg, comes a few others. I've heard good about the zalman 9700: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118019

[Khalil]

I have tried 3 different water cooling systems in the past and non of them made that much difference to overclocking, one of them had such a loud pump it was much worst than 5 cheap 80mm fans.
I use AMD processors and they generaly run cool, water cooling without the right motherboard and CPU is a waste of money and time. Water cooling is for show mostly in my opinion, unless you have money to burn stick to air cooling.

[Chris Linder]

Iv ordered the one from newegg. Thank you all for your help. I feel safe running my processor from a 2.6 to a 3.0 with this heatsink. Iv also heard a lot of good things about that heatsink.


Thanks agian !! : )