Best Networking Computer

[moochanic]

ok..
I got about $10,000 to use to build this network computer for my house as I'm starting a computer company to build computers and I need to test out the internet, well I'll have tons and tons of computers hooked up to this computers router and computer.

What is the best setup?
SYS 7

WindowsXP 64-bit edition
6GB DDR RAM+ (or max possbile!)
Custom ASUS Motherboard
Dual Intel Xenon Proccessors
8 36GB SCIS Hard Drives

Good?
It needs to be good,
If you know anything else I should get please tell me!
Also whats the best router that allows at least 40+ computers hooked in at once and using the internet

[moochanic]

Also,
The store might need some staff who will get paid alot that can build computers so when the time comes, which 20 of you should I go to?

Least: $12.46/hour
Max: $18.96/hour

You would have to be able to build at least 10 within 24 hours tho
Can any of you guys do that
When the time comes I'll post a message up here don't worry! :smile:

[DrZaius]

What are exactly are you using this system for? Unless you're starting your own ISP or something I would say that it's a bit overkill. For 40+ systems you could go with a Dual Athlon or Xeon setup, 2GB RAM, and Intel or Asus motherboard, and a SCSI/RAID setup. As for the router, take a look at Cisco.

[DrZaius]

And for the OS, go with Windows 2000, Linux, or FreeBSD.

[moochanic]

overkill?
i thought i'd need more

i will buy some cisco routers then
didnt think people like linksys would make something that holds 40+ people

To basiclly test out internet,
plus offer free internet access to my neighbhoor hood of 10+ people

They'd be sharing a line that has

11 DS3's

All plugged into this house/store up in my neighbhoor hood

So I figure if they spread the word for me since they all love computers, they get free internet access

on one big lan
20 people using it regularly
20 computers being tested that there nic is working when we build the computers

That way they will have a very fast 200mb/sec line
BTW: fiberoptics, which place could I get those at?
I'm not using cat5, that cant handle the 200mb/sec and as promised, they will be getting full 200mb/sec+


Alot of there kids play online games,
so I'm going to setup a computer server for there games.
Is this computer good..

WindowsXP 64 bit edition
Dual AMD Xeon's 2Ghz+
4GB of Corsair DDR Ram
Dual ATI Fire GL4 GFX Cards

it will be running simultancy..
Counter Strike
TribesII
Half Life
Unreal Tournament

can it handle all those?

really appreciate your guys help!

Will post some pictures when all this is completed, don't worry

[moochanic]

ok will go with FreeBSD for the networking,
how about the game?
Since it's windows what do you recommend

[DrZaius]

Oh, ok, you're setting up an internet cafe type thing for the store. I didn't get that from the first post.

For the games server, again go with FreeBSD or Linux, you don't need WinXP 64-bit. Intel makes the Xeons, AMD makes the Athlons, either of which you could use in a dual setup. For the Xeons you'll need RDRAM, and for the Athlons you'll need DDR. All you'll need is a cheap $30 ATI video card since it'll be a server.

Hmm, dual AMD Xeons and dual graphics cards for a server? Me thinks you need to catch up on your own hardware info before you start building systems. I highy suggest starting small, make a simple server and a few net systems and see how it goes from there. These "super-computers" you listed are a huge investment.

[moochanic]

heh sorry intel i mean

ok

But freebsd or linux won't run half line.. it will run a tribes II server but a half life.. will it?
will it run the games I said?

and nah it's cool, I got tons of money up to $800,000 to spend so don't worry

not internet cafe,

The store will be in the upper culdasack..
when u go up the road it brances off one goes left and straight.. one goes straight and up

at the top will be a store that curves around the culd a sack with parking in the back behind it.

but there will be a router
which each house in the neighborhood will recieve a fiber optic line to their house, they hook their computer in it and hop on my lan which is on a DS3 x 11 connection. Web surfing, AIM,ext all run fast. Now for the lan, they simply go connect to 192.168.0.1 or whatever and a special port which each game server runs on then they play against other kids in the neighborhood

Overall,
There are about 24 homes spread out in the HUGE neighbor hood, with about 2 kids each

so 12 kids, have their choice of (just thought of this.. will still need a very good gaming server cause.. they need no lag!) monday night unreal tournamate and tuesday night counter strike (I should say day because it will alternate starting at midnight it runs xxx till midnight again then it runs a diffrent game called xxxx). on a pre set scheudule

since there are 4 games, and 7 days

each kid takes a vote at the end of the 4th day or sometime during the 4th day what they want to play tomorrow and ext every night until the reset, aka next week sunday/monday.

get it?

hope ya do! *whew*
*wipes off sweat off his fingers*

[LawyerRon]

I would go Apple if I were you.

[doctorgonzo]

Let me get this straight: you want to wire your neighbourhood with fibre optic cable, provide fast internet access to your neighbours, provide a game server for your neighbours, all at no cost to them?

[LawyerRon]

Yeah, but he is limited to 800 grand.

[homer15]

where do you live and how did you get so much money to spend on gaming for kids?!?! i wish i lived in your neighborhood.

[moochanic]

i am 14,
i live in virginia
my grandpa sadly died but he left me alot more than $800,000 about 4.2million

i'm only starting off at $800,000

Actually,
after adding all this up its going to cost $700,000
leaving me money for each of the 12 kids computer,not counting me, because i have a good cpu i'm building

yes your right gonzo

each kids cpu $8,000

i am going to build 12 computers with the following configs

tell me if you you were a kid, or are a kid
would this be good for gaming?

Dual AMD XP 2001+
Custom ASUS Motherboard
2GB of DDR RAM
72X CDROM
16-10-32 CD-RW w/ pack of 100 CD-RW's
#-#-# DVD-RW w/ pack of 10 DVD-RW discs
Dual ATI FIRE GL4 128MB DDR GFX CARD
WindowsXP PRO
Lian-Li Alluminum Case w/ Pre Installed Window & Neon Blue Lights
Rounded Colored Cables,All The Goodies
Pure Copper Heatsink For Each CPU
All these kids are.. should I say geeks?
geeks need the best to grow up to be the best.. right?

So 12 of those computer configurations
So kids,
do you like those?

homer15, if you were poor i would gladly pay or give you an account in our computer stores future ISP and send you one of those machines, but your not poor cause you already have the internet. Neither is anybody here, so haha.. lol

We're setting to open in 1 week,
So at the end of tonight I go into major worktime and start building these computers and getting them out to the kids and setting up the store

I will post a message in one week, looking for staff

- alex

[moochanic]

btw yes it's all free

and those 12 systems,. I won't include all 12 in my sig just one saying 12 of these built
BTW
maybe I'll just make a webpage to show off my rigs,


After listening to your recomemndations,
I will NOT, NOT,NOT,NOT go with the screwed faced Apple
I will go with Windows2000 SP-1 for the gaming servers
I will go with FreeBSD for the network server

I am awaiting your opionions on the kids machines I will be giving to them for free

[doctorgonzo]

I think anybody would be ecstatic to get those machines, because those are extreme overkill.

[homer15]

yea, i'm not poor (thank God), but thanks for the offer. that seems like a good setup just for gaming...
man, when i was 14 (not very long ago at all), i had a pentium 75 with windows 95, and i thought that was great.

[moochanic]

thats because u an old guy, lol j/k

BTW
it includes 4 SCIS drives in each computer

Still deciding 90GB+ probaly

4 90GB+ SCIS drives
+ means like dont know 9# whatever

i dont hate poor people, but it has to suck to be poor

[Eric H.]

I think you're going on extreme overkill. most games you play aren't going to use half of the computer resources you have setup.

[Furius92]

Uhh, just a thought, but since those things are gonna need massive cooling, they are going to LOUD and inside of MASSIVE cases. Don't you think you could tone it down a bit just to save on space and noise?

Also, if you're spending $700,000 on a server, why not make it an Itanium machine? They cost $8000 just for the CPU itself. But damn, that's a really kickass thing you are doing for these kids. These will be the best computers they've EVER dreamed of and will ever use for a long time. Dual ATI Fire cards... damn! I am amazed!

[LawyerRon]

Quote:
"i am 14,
i live in virginia
my grandpa sadly died but he left me alot more than $800,000 about 4.2million"

Really? And it wasn't left to a trust fund? You get the whole 4 mill right now? That's great! Grandpa was sharp!

[shecky981]

I'm sorry but this entire thing sounds like a huge load of bulls**t to me. The fact that a 14 yr old kid is gonna get a $4.2 million bank account to do with whatever he wants speaks a lot about how well Grandpa spent his money. Maybe he worked for Enron.

This sounds like a pipedream to me. Personally, I could think of a lot of other things to do with that kinda $. And, if this scenario is true, it goes to show that just because you are rich does not make you smart.

[moochanic]

i never said i was smart

nor

did i ever say i had access to it all

Its all in a bank account,
all transactions (all these have been) need to be approved before I am allowed to go and get it,ext

Grandpa was sharp, until he died of pega`ris`tic cancer.

He didnt work for enron, tho.. if he did and was alive now.. i'd be goofey eyed lol

BTW shecky whats up with your systems.. technically they are but i thought it was for computers only

Itaniums,eh?
Maybe I will build PCMECH a server off dual itaniums with really sweet stuff if they sponsor my store

i think i could gain mod or adminship pretty dang fast if I did them that good of a favor

AND

paid for it all and hosted it on its own DS3 x 2 lines

[moochanic]

It won't be loud,
it has a good sound reducing material thats currently being designed..

So when it's released in on Wednesday, I'll start doing the machines

I think I'm gonna overclock all my machines

By at least .4

so if its 1.2

it'll be 1.6ghz

ext

- alex

[Toaster]

Howdy,
If you want a "balls to the wall" screamer I suggest you look into a Dualie P4-Xenon system. Drop any idea of Micky$oft anything and use a Linux variant of some sort. Drop any idea of IDE and go SCSI-LVD or a "JBOD" FC array.
The system should sport a minimum of 512MB of memory and be accutely aware of memory performance which the P4 still holds the fastest performance.
Focus on 64bit PCI for any SCSI/RAID controller. For 80 grand this can be EASILY done (8+).
Also keep in mind that Micky$oft uses multiple CPUs in a serialized fashion and UNIX/Linuz uses a parallel fashion.
The serial fashion is a "flow over" type design where once CPU-A is fully occupied, CPU-B comes into the picture and not before. In the parallel fashion, both (all) CPUs are used concurrently and the sum of the 2 represents "one". (this is oversimplified)

[jca08]

hey, while this thing does seem a bit unlikely, where exactly in VA do you live? i'd love to get payed to mess around with computers, that'd be sweet.

josh

[Edave]

And too think my Dream is to have a GeForce 4 Ti4600 and maybe a new monitor one of these days.

[moochanic]

its a joke,
but hey.. who wouldn't wantto have that sweet machine?!
dream? yes.. fantasy.. yes

true? no! me cry? yes!

[Edave]

moochanic,
everyone likes a good joke once in a while,but let me suggest that you Quit waisting peoples time.You will find if you keep up this non-sense,and ever do need help with a problem,people on this board will not be as inclined to help.Ever hear of the BOY who cried Wolf?
Just something to think about.

[minutrice]

ok if any of you believed him asfter his "I'm 14" post, you're crazy. I mean come on.... no adult would authorize this kind of BS spending. I wouldn't do such a stupid thing anyway. I just wish I had the 3000 bucks to pay for the rest of what I owe on this semester of school so I can register for the fall semesters classes on Friday.

Josh

[moochanic]

hey,
my grandpa did die and left me a hefty amount of money

yea.. like i'll ever get it