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Old 07-29-2002, 11:01 AM   #1
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Unhappy tired of high temps...

I have been runnin a amd 1.2 for a while and ever since i first built it, its been running HOT. I have done quite a bit of cleaning up and still bad...

Ive a full tower case, with 2 fans blowing in at the bottom, the one on the lower front also blowing in. I also have 2 blowing out in the back on top of the PSU. I have used Artic Silver and applyed the thin thin layer you're supposed to. I used to have a lil thicker layer and thinning it helped a bit. Result? Around 50ish temps idling... Lately this summer its been hot in my room. Temps? 60+! IDLING! I have "triple folded" my ide cables, moved power cables out of the way, even put a small fan on the inside bottom of the case blowing UP to move the hot air faster up. Still same temps... The fans are Sunons and the CPU fan its a dragon orb 3, the faster one.

Well, enough ranting, Im not even OCing and its that hot, help!
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Old 07-29-2002, 11:07 AM   #2
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AMD's run hot, hotter then p4's
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Old 07-29-2002, 11:13 AM   #3
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Uhm, for now, you might wanna consider an upgraded hsf. It also sounds like you might have too too many fans blowing in. I've heard that it's better to have more outgoing fans.
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Old 07-29-2002, 11:17 AM   #4
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Hi sUsHIboI,

Have you considered using something other than the Dragon Orb? The Thermaltake Orbs were never really that good at CPU cooling. If your motherboard has the room, take a look at the Thermalright AX-7.

Your case cooling seems more than adequate. Unless you're seeing a lot of freezes and lockups, I wouldn't worry about it.

Where are you getting these temps from?

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Old 07-29-2002, 11:44 AM   #5
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Yeah, the AMD's do run hot. My AMD Athlon XP 1800+ runs at about 110-120F, with 1 side case fan, 2 case fans, power supply fan, and hsf(w/ heatsink and thermal) . 110-120F is normal for the XP.

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Old 07-29-2002, 11:46 AM   #6
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Hi guys,

hmm... I actually disabled the 2 botton side fans b4 and that didnt help... the temps actually were higher. Of course AMDs r hotter than P4s, but I have seen people around here with 30-40 idle temps! wow! I wish i had anything close to that. Anyways... I know the DragonOrb's not that great, but I was wondering if an upgrade in HSF would make THAT much of a diff to bring my temps down...?

Thanks tho!
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Oops sorry Cricket, i get these from both the bios and Asus Probe
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Old 07-29-2002, 12:53 PM   #8
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my p4 runs at 36c, whats that in F?
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Old 07-29-2002, 01:13 PM   #9
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in the BIOS, it should read one temp as C and on the other side as F (Example: 38C/100F.) And I am using AWARD BIOS.

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Old 07-29-2002, 01:15 PM   #10
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My Duron 1300 is cooking at a whopping 32celcius and 100% load after 5 minutes clears a 35 celcius. All I am running is the stock HSF with that thermal spunge (I call it a spunge cuz if you seen how thick the thing is you'd crap your pants retarded).

Sounds to me that the ambient room temps might cause an influence. Also where are you putting hte computer. Does the exausted air have somewhere to go. Also like someone already said...its best to have your exaust to be higher then your intake, that way you don't have so much hotair festering in the case. An idea...take the side walls off the case and run it open. If that solves the problem, then you have too much hot air kicking around the case.
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I'm seem to be having similar troubles to you sUsHIboI.

I'm currently running with the computer with one side panel and a room fan blowing in so that temperatures are reduced to a satisfactory level.

As a result of this, idle temperatures can be as low as 20C in the evening, and 25C during the day time. Its when the CPU is put under 100% that a problem occurs. The CPU temp rises to about 61/62C. That's a pretty bad temperature and its also a massive difference between the idle and 100% load which I would like to decrease. These temperatures are also only coming about as a result of having one side of the case off and a room fan blowing in. So the problem for myself is that the Heatsink on the CPU is not dissipating heat at a fast enough rate. Hopefully a new heatsink and some arctic silver will fix that. Will probably need a couple more fans as well so I can at least put the side of the case on.

I would love to know how you (Adam) have such low temperatures when the CPU load is 100%.

Anyway, regarding your setup sUsHIboI it all seems pretty good. Out of curiosity, what are you system/mainboard (whatever you wanna call it) temperatures. That would probably provide a little indication of how warm it is inside the case. Also, is your case proped up against a wall? Ensure that the warm air at the back of the case has somewhere to escape to.

What are you're temperatures when the CPU is under full load? If you see if rising much, I would remove the load immeadiately. Don't wanna burn anything out do we.

I would also suggest what Adam has said. Remove the sides of the case, and see how temperatures change. This would help give an indication as to where the problem may lie.
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Old 07-29-2002, 02:13 PM   #12
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my p4 runs at 36c, whats that in F?
36C = 98.6F

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is it safe though to have only one side case, and the other side open with a big room fan blowing in?

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Old 07-29-2002, 02:30 PM   #14
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is it safe though to have only one side case, and the other side open with a big room fan blowing in?

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How long do you intend to leave it like that? You won't hurt anything in the PC but if you have any small children or pets you might not want to leave it that way all the time.

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Old 07-29-2002, 08:18 PM   #15
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Haha Cricket. So your saying it is OK to open one of the side cases, and just put a small room fan next to it? DO you think this will drop CPU temp better than a side case fan? Or will this be to cold for the environment.

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Old 07-29-2002, 08:29 PM   #16
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if you guys would lower your room temp a bit it will make a big differance for you.

try a room air conditioner.
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Old 07-29-2002, 08:36 PM   #17
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Haha Cricket. So your saying it is OK to open one of the side cases, and just put a small room fan next to it? DO you think this will drop CPU temp better than a side case fan? Or will this be to cold for the environment.

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I've seen it done before. Temps drop down quite a bit since a room fan pushes way more air than a case fan can. The big draw back is having to put up with the hassle of having a room fan blowing into your case (takes up a lot of space and is noisy) and the possibility that big something can get blown into the case and cause some damage. I don't think there's any danger of the components being too cool.

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Old 07-29-2002, 10:04 PM   #18
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Get a better heatsink and fan,install V-cool.
Temps will drop.
Look at the Thermalright SK6 or the AX-7
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Old 07-30-2002, 12:37 AM   #19
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Haha Cricket. So your saying it is OK to open one of the side cases, and just put a small room fan next to it? DO you think this will drop CPU temp better than a side case fan? Or will this be to cold for the environment.

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Check this one out: The Ultimate Case Fan Case .

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Don't underestimate the diff. the heatsink will make. Couple of fans is good. Sorry to say this, but the orb performs prett poorly, check it out:

http://www.dansdata.com/coolercomp.htm

Its results come out worse than my retail HSF for my XP1900. Because you supoosedly can run them so hot, that cooler is more for people who don't mind doing so. $25 may buy you some piece of mind.
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oops.. your hsf was a little better than the one i was looking at. Still a great site. Wouldn't go too crazy with the fans.
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Look for a Heat Pipe CPU cooler. These things are radically acclaimed in the reviews. I dont recall who makes them.
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Just Buy Intel Products.
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Old 08-01-2002, 10:08 AM   #24
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Just Buy Intel Products.
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Old 08-01-2002, 10:18 AM   #25
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Hi sUsHIboI,

What kind of room temps are you seeing? Higher room temps means high temps inside the computer case and higher CPU temps.

If you aren't getting any lockups or freezes, don't worry about it.

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Old 08-02-2002, 12:58 AM   #26
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Hey sorry about the lack of replies, but i thought this might be important... Currently my computer's been idling for about over an hour and the temps?... MB:28C CPU:52C... I think my case's cooled pretty well... but the cpu??? ack!

But you're right Cricket, no freezes or lockups, thats why i been just running it and leaving it alone, but I have begun to wonder how could i get some better temps thats all hehe, thanks for the input!
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