amd temps

[newme]

hello
i just built an amd duron system,without fans and the side off i was getting 50/ 53 temps trying to be cheap added one fan, and got temps of 55 blowing in from the front.tried it in the back see if could pull hot air out didnt work ,same temps. added another fan today, one in front one in back.still reading temps of 51 just using the internet,but this is with the case side on.what kind of tempatures can i expect when its under some load can i just test it with my son playing one of his cd rom games.after reading some posts on temps this seems a little high.mind you it has been warmer in the house the last couple days.ive sold this but i dont want to hand it over till im sure its stable.just looked again its at 52.ive pushed the cables out of the way of the airflow so i dont think thats the problem.my intake fan is located on the bottom of the case pulling air from underneath the case .isnt it normally in the front panel.

[9600baud]

Thtas pretty hot for a Duron, like most people would suggest, intead of playing with your case fans, recheck your HSF / thermalpaste, use ArticSilver etc...

[Cricket]

Hi newme,

Instead of worrying about the temps, just be sure the system is stable and not locking up all the time. If it's not locking up or freezing when you're running something intense, the system is stable and good to go.

Ambient room temperatures will affect the temp reading you get.

Where are you getting the temps from and which heatsink are you using? And what case are you using? I've never heard of a intake fan sucking from the bottom of the case. Make sure the new owner doesn't place the computer on a rug or it will vacuum up all the dirt and dust from it. Weird design.

Cricket

[newme]

so if i have to use thermal paste now, do i take the heatsink off and clean the heatsink and proccessor then add paste.what a pain in the bu**sorry cricket didnt read your post

[newme]

seems stable cricket no problems ill have my son play his game for a couple hours see what happens.do you have to use this many fans with intel ,if not i think my next build ill try intel,this is a little noisy.my temp readings are from asus probe nd i checked in bios they seem to read the same as probe .the heat sink came retail so i guess its stock.its a cheap case i ordered a enlight case they were out of stock so i grabbed this one and changed the powersupply.

[Cricket]

Originally posted by newme so if i have to use thermal paste now, do i take the heatsink off and clean the heatsink and proccessor then add paste.what a pain in the bu**

What are you using on the heatsink now...the thermal pad? Arctic Silver will drop temps down a bit (after the break-in period of a day or so).

Originally posted by newme do you have to use this many fans with intel ,if not i think my next build ill try intel,this is a little noisy.

No. Intel P4's run pretty cool to begin with and the stock retail heatsink fan is very quiet. You only need 1 rear fan to help remove warmed air from the case...makes for a very quiet system.

Originally posted by newme its a cheap case i ordered a enlight case they were out of stock so i grabbed this one and changed the powersupply.

Oh...so it's not an Enlight or other well known brand? It sounds like a strange case to work with.

Cricket

[eko976]

I have a Duron and after adding arctic silver temperature went down from 55 to 50 but 3 days ago we had hot temperature days and I didn't turn on my aircondition so temeperature was 57 but it was still doing good
I think that is the way how AMD works!

[newme]

well ive run for four or five hours played some cds and it its staying at 52 53 .cricket im using the pad that was attached to the heatsink i dont want to do the artic silver unless you think those temps are high.it is running fine as far as i can tell.

[Cricket]

Originally posted by newme well ive run for four or five hours played some cds and it its staying at 52 53 .cricket im using the pad that was attached to the heatsink i dont want to do the artic silver unless you think those temps are high.it is running fine as far as i can tell.

Since the system is stable, I would just leave it as it is. Good job, newme!

Cricket

[jsanchez]

cricket, up until what temperatue is it safe for the cpu to operate? in other words, would up to 55 degrees be okay or is that too much? when should you start worrying?

[Alaron]

jsanchez,

CPUs. Intel or AMD are rated to run stable up to 90 degrees Celcius. It is recommended to keep your temperatures under 50C. Above that, it can be more likely that you could experience problems with over heating.

As long as you have a good HS/F unit and a case fan or two, you shouldnt have any problems keeping your system cool.

HTH

[Cricket]

Originally posted by jsanchez cricket, up until what temperatue is it safe for the cpu to operate? in other words, would up to 55 degrees be okay or is that too much? when should you start worrying?

If that is a CPU temp of 55C under load, I think you're okay. It also depends on the ambient room temperature the computer is kept in. The warmer the room is, the higher the temps within the case will be. As long as your system is stable and not locking up all the time, you're doing okay. If your system is locking up and freezing all the time, then it's time to improve the cooling setup.

Cricket

[jsanchez]

my cpu runs at about 52 and 53...i believe even 54 sometimes...it is an amd athlon 1900+. i read somewhere that the temp is fine as long it doesn't reach 60c's. i'm starting to have doubts. should i remove the retail heatsink that came with a thermal pad and apply artic silver or leave it as is?

[Cricket]

Originally posted by jsanchez my cpu runs at about 52 and 53...i believe even 54 sometimes...it is an amd athlon 1900+. i read somewhere that the temp is fine as long it doesn't reach 60c's. i'm starting to have doubts. should i remove the retail heatsink that came with a thermal pad and apply artic silver or leave it as is?

If you aren't comfortable with the temps you're seeing and really want to do something about it (and want to fiddle with your system more), go ahead and replace the stock heatsink with something like the Thermalright AX-7 and Arctic Silver. You'll see a dramatic reduction in temps as long as your case has good ventilation. Does your case have at least 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan installed?

Cricket

[jsanchez]

it has 2 exhaust and no intakes...

[Alaron]

Like Cricket said, you may want to upgrade the heatsink. The Thermalright AX-7 is an excellent performer.

Try moving one of the exhaust fans to the front of the case so it functions as an intake. This creates a good balance of cool air coming in and hot air moving out. Check your temps after this to see if there is any improvement. I think there should a be a few degree difference.

[newme]

i feel im going to have to do something about the temps im getting a steady 55 c .i think tommorrow im going to take the heatsink off and try some thermal compound.i didnt want to to do it but its been acting a little flakey since ive been getting this steady 55.this really sucks i have to drive twenty minutes one way to the store i deal with.yesterday i went to a local store 5 minutes away to compare costs with the store i normally deal with and they wanted 15.00 dollars for some no name case fan. i dont know much about computers but i would have been ashamed to try and sell the fan he was trying to sell me.it looked like something out of a cracker jack box.i dont know how they stay in business.but any ways ill have to drive out again tommorow pick up some thermal compound,
thanks for listening

[Cricket]

Hi newme,

Take a look at the attachment...it's the results of a forum member experimenting with the fan set up in his case (sorry, I forgot which member did this). Experimenting with the fans in your case may help to control the heat better.

Cricket

[newme]

hi cricket my fan configuration is different, my front fan blows straight up towards harddrive and cd rom. so none of those configurations will work for me.the air eventually travells across the board and cpu ,but id rather have seen it blowing directly at the board as the same same as the link you gave, shows.i think the reason the fan holes are on the bottom is because there is two usb ports built into the case where the front fan should have been.aso my power supply fan is showing is showing 1985 rpm does that seem normal everytime i boot up im getting a message from asus probe that the fan is spinning to slow.

[newme]

well after my son playing warcraft for half an hour im getting temps of 60 c.im thinking maybe drill holes in the top of the case.what do you think

[glc]

Every P4 Northwood I have built so far, the CPU runs at 1 degree C warmer than the system - using Enlight cases with 2 fans and a stock heatsink with Arctic Silver. I have yet to get an AMD anything running lower than 42 C at idle.

newme: If you want to get the system stable enough to sell, get the best airflow you can in the case using whatever tricks you have to, put the best HSF on it you can, and definitely use Arctic Silver.