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HERCULES GAMESURROUND FORTISIMMO II - This sound card is a real pain in the butt with XP even with the xp drivers. It tends to load multiple drivers of the same.
Your problem isn't the on-board sound, it's this card. It's strange because the Muse and the Game Theater do not have these problems. I have tried a couple of these cards on XP and neither would install correctly or they cause problems with other software. |
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Really? Even without this card in it still loads the on board sound though?
Well I might just have to stick with on board sound and take thisd out completely. Will I notice a big decrease in sound? I listen to all my music through my PC connected to my Hi-Fi seperates and want the best quality I can afford. |
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The on-board sounds fine but sometimes you can get some suttering when the PC is really loaded.
I know it seems wierd that the on-board trys to load even though it was disabled, but it is just the Herc card and they have nothing on their site to help it. Even the XP drivers for the card on their site don't seem to install correctly. A card that I am using now that sounds really easy, installs with no problem, and even comes with a remote that can control music and other things is the Abit AU10 and it only goes for $24.99. http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_i...roducts_id=707 |
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That looks like a good card, I am based in the UK though so I will have to see if anyone is selling it over here. Remote sounds really good!
If I do get a new card what should I do about the on board sound? |
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Once you get rid of the hardware incompatability, the onboard will be disabled and the problem will go away.
If you had of posted the sound card name we wouldn't have two pages of posts, but the first time I had this problem there were four duplicate entries for each driver that was installed. Again the Hercules MUSE series sound cards install like a breeze. |
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#36 |
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Sorry, but at the moment the Hercules has gone and every trace of it but I still can not disable the on board sound?
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Do you have a Fax/Voice Modem installed in this computer? I am getting the feeling that it isn't the on-board sound that you are seeing, but possibly a Voice modem device or you have an IRQ conflict between the cards. So list the cards you have installed starting with the Video card in the AGP slot, then list the PCI slots using 1 as the one below the video card and going down.
So list them like this AGP - GForce xxxx video card PCI1 - Empty PCI2 - NIC PCI3 - Blank |
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AGP - GForce 2 MMX 400
All the PCI solts are empty. I have none of the cards that came with the motherboard plugged in either (USB 2, Game Port Firewire). |
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#39 |
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What Operating System are you using?
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I am going to be going home in a little bit so I am going to assume that you are using XP.
With XP it is a good ideal to install all of the cards, USB ports, drives, and Firewire ports before you install the operating system. This only holds true with XP. Then as you install XP it will install any drivers for the hardware you have and will prompt for hardware that it doesn't have drivers for. When the installation is finished then you can update the drivers and load other software. So it may be that you need to wipe the OS off the hard disk and start from that point. |
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I've just done that a few days ago. It has not got any of these cards installed and never has though so it shouldn't matter should it?
Its just blue screened again! Yes I am using XP. |
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If you go ahead and put everything in it might straighten itself out, If it doe not then you need to contact ASUS Techabout solutions or an RMA. Because just about everything that can be suggested has been suggested. Remember hardware is sometimes faulty out of the box.
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Yeah you might be right, could it be the RAM?
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NO, not Ram, this would have to be a physical failure of the board.
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Right OK thanks m8, I wll get in touch with ASUS then and see what they say.
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It may be informative to see what the Blue Screen actually says.
Whenever XP encounters a Stop Error (the kind that used to produce the blue screen of death in Win9x), the system automatically reboots. The could be almost anything, including incompatible software, an out-of-date BIOS, or outdated drivers for computer components such as video cards, CD-RW drives, printers, or scanners. However, the only way to hopefully identify the problem for certain, is to disable the automatic Restart and actually see what the BSOD says. To do this Start > Control Panel > Settings > System (in the Classic-style Start menu, Control Panel is under Settings). Click Advanced > System And Recovery > Settings. In the System Failure section, clear the Automatically Restart check box, then click OK. Now instead of rebooting, you will get get a BSOD which will give you a message which should identify the problem. Just press Reset to get out of the BSOD. HTH |
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Quote:
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If it ain't broke, "TWEAK IT" |
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?????
Yes, I did read the post. In fact, I stated earlier that the jumper on the motherboard that disables the onboard sound is the AUDIO_EN jumper. Quote:
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Quote:
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You're right TwoRails - I didn't post the info on the AUDIO_EN jumper. I must have put it in another post concerning the A7V333.
My apologies ktkendall. I'm full of the flu at the moment and misread what you were saying. My brain is not working well. I actually "believed" I had posted the AUDIO_EN jumper in this thread. Sheesh! Apologies to everyone. BTW I finally got a chance to check the boy's A7V333 upstairs. It has the 1005 BIOS revision it came with and it has no "Onboard PCI Audio PCI Devices Control" or "Onboard PCI Audio" sections in CMOS Setup. So, that option not being available, seems to be normal, and/or perhaps is present on other BIOS revisions - or was removed altogether. What BIOS revision (if you've still got the A7V333) do you have TwoRails? So disabling the onboard sound rests solely with disabling the AUDIO_EN jumper and uninstalling the drivers. You might want to try another jumper cap on the AUDIO_EN jumper, in case the jumper cap is faulty and not shorting the 2-3 pins as it should. Assuming it is the onboard sound not disabling, that is causing the problem. HTH Last edited by mike breck; 03-04-2003 at 05:40 AM. |
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#51 |
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No need to apologize, mike breck! I've done a lot worse than that!!! Sorry to hear you're not feeling well.... Have some chicken soup!
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#52 |
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Thanks Tworails.
I was hoping Dr. Z would send me a horse pill to end all my suffering. However, his consultation fees have gone up considerably since he became a Moderator.
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#53 |
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Well, speaking of pills, Like I've always said, it's a hard pill to swallow, I think I'll chew it first!
LOLWhat are his rates, anyway?? ![]() TwoRails |
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#54 |
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That's OK Mike, I was not directing my post at you, but to Gold_Disk as far as checking deeper into that Jumper setting, My fault for not being clearer to whom I wass actually addressing...
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#55 |
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No problem kt - my fault entirely.
As for Dr. Z's rates - I've heard two chickens and a doughnut, don't cut it anymore. And he's stopped advising on baldness and prostate troubles.
Last edited by mike breck; 03-06-2003 at 06:40 PM. |
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#56 |
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Boy, We've really strayed away from his original problem.> Hey Gold_Disk,, Any luck yet actually disabling that onboard sound>>
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#57 |
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Good point, ktkendall.
Gold_Disk ??? |
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