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icallmedan · 03-19-2003, 07:08 PM

I have a quick question...If you have dual processors, do they run together at the combined speed? Say you have dual 2.4 GHz processors, is that the same as having a computer running 4.8 GHz. And also another question, I always hear about dual 2.4 GHz, but could you have (1) 2.4GHz and say (1) 2.0GHz, or do the processors have to be the same speed....Thanks.

Markoman01027 · 03-19-2003, 07:18 PM

Nope, they will still run at 2.4Ghz but it will put a less load on the CPU. You need an operating system that supports Dual Processing(XP Pro).

Yes, they will need to be the exact same speed. Only 75% on that one.

icallmedan · 03-19-2003, 07:21 PM

What did you mean only 75% on that one???

Trent Steel · 03-19-2003, 07:25 PM

Both processors have to be the same speed in order to get it to work, in order to get any benifit out of a duel processor setup you need an OS and program that supports duel processors. As for the speed increase the benifit is not equavilent to double of one of the processors but closer to 1.5 times as fast, that is your 2.4GHz setup would be around 3.6GHz equivalent. I am curious are you running a slot 1 processor in your rig or a socket 370 processor with a slocket adapter?

icallmedan · 03-19-2003, 07:27 PM

I am running it with an "Abit Slocket !!!". This is a really good motherboard, because it says on the Abit site it is only capable at running up to 700MHz, but is now clocked at 1.24 GHz, and running fine!!!

Nuclear Krusader · 03-19-2003, 08:26 PM

Check the last posts of this thread:

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?threadid=20462

dackerman · 03-19-2003, 09:01 PM

The advantage of dual CPU's is only noticable in programs that are optimized for it, and also servers. For example Photoshop can utilize dual CPU's to perform some of its more strenuous tasks on one CPU, but the other one with just pitch in where needed.

Most applications can only utilize one of the CPU's, which basically means your other CPU is doing nothing and you have a 2.4GHz or whatever system.

Some games like Quake III actually support dual CPU's which is pretty neat.

Dave

**Force Flow** · 03-19-2003, 11:03 PM

I don't think there are that many dual-processor optimized progs available.

icallmedan · 03-19-2003, 11:04 PM

Yeah, someone said Doom 3, but you better have a good graphics card too!!

TwoRails · 03-19-2003, 11:31 PM

I've read a couple times you can get some benefit from a dually without dually programs, but it's not cost effective. What I've read is that if you do something that loads up one CPU 100%, like rendering a home movie, then the OS will be smart enough to shuttle newly opened programs to the other CPU.

So, if start out making a movie, then want to come to PCM, you won't have the processor lag you would normally have --- at least the theory goes...

Don't know for fact, though....

TwoRails

icallmedan · 03-19-2003, 11:55 PM

That seems pretty cool.

**Force Flow** · 03-19-2003, 11:58 PM

Sure it does.

Isn't it only limited to XP Pro, though? Does 2000 server ed. have the ability to use it?

Nuclear Krusader · 03-20-2003, 02:01 AM

Supposedly HyperThreading gives you the performance of two CPUs with only one!

Is that true actually? Intel boasts a lot about it.

rave · 03-20-2003, 06:10 AM

actually to my knowledge... it ouly gives a 30% speed increasement for programs that are optimized for it

**Force Flow** · 03-20-2003, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nuclear Krusader
Supposedly HyperThreading gives you the performance of two CPUs with only one!

Is that true actually? Intel boasts a lot about it.

It does. Again, you need to be multitasking or running dual-processor optimized progs to take advantage of it.

icallmedan · 03-20-2003, 03:24 PM

There is a nice article on hyperthreading at intel.com..check it out!

Cpt.Kirk · 03-20-2003, 03:35 PM

Windows NT4, i think 3.5 does not sure though, 2K flavors, and XP can support multiple procs.

icallmedan · 03-20-2003, 03:39 PM

Yeah, a lot of people have said that already...

reboot · 03-20-2003, 04:14 PM

XP Pro, not Home.
Just an FYI, a particular dual MP2000+ system (advertised locally) has a slower benchmark than my single XP2000+ and the only difference is the motherboard manufacturer. Everything else is the same, HD, RAM, OS, Video card...

**HAL9000** · 03-20-2003, 04:34 PM

Hyperthreading gets confusing tho. Ya, you need Pro if you physically have dual processors, for a hyperthreaded CPU acting as a dual, it is supported in XP Home.

03-19-2003, 07:08 PM	#1
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	Dual Processors I have a quick question...If you have dual processors, do they run together at the combined speed? Say you have dual 2.4 GHz processors, is that the same as having a computer running 4.8 GHz. And also another question, I always hear about dual 2.4 GHz, but could you have (1) 2.4GHz and say (1) 2.0GHz, or do the processors have to be the same speed....Thanks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Markoman01027 Member (12 bit) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Easthampton, Massachusetts Posts: 2,633	Nope, they will still run at 2.4Ghz but it will put a less load on the CPU. You need an operating system that supports Dual Processing(XP Pro). Yes, they will need to be the exact same speed. Only 75% on that one. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	What did you mean only 75% on that one??? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Trent Steel Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 628	Both processors have to be the same speed in order to get it to work, in order to get any benifit out of a duel processor setup you need an OS and program that supports duel processors. As for the speed increase the benifit is not equavilent to double of one of the processors but closer to 1.5 times as fast, that is your 2.4GHz setup would be around 3.6GHz equivalent. I am curious are you running a slot 1 processor in your rig or a socket 370 processor with a slocket adapter? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	I am running it with an "Abit Slocket !!!". This is a really good motherboard, because it says on the Abit site it is only capable at running up to 700MHz, but is now clocked at 1.24 GHz, and running fine!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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dackerman Member (8 bit) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oakton, VA Posts: 159	The advantage of dual CPU's is only noticable in programs that are optimized for it, and also servers. For example Photoshop can utilize dual CPU's to perform some of its more strenuous tasks on one CPU, but the other one with just pitch in where needed. Most applications can only utilize one of the CPU's, which basically means your other CPU is doing nothing and you have a 2.4GHz or whatever system. Some games like Quake III actually support dual CPU's which is pretty neat. Dave Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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TwoRails Member (14 bit) Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Great NorthWest Posts: 12,594	I've read a couple times you can get some benefit from a dually without dually programs, but it's not cost effective. What I've read is that if you do something that loads up one CPU 100%, like rendering a home movie, then the OS will be smart enough to shuttle newly opened programs to the other CPU. So, if start out making a movie, then want to come to PCM, you won't have the processor lag you would normally have --- at least the theory goes... Don't know for fact, though.... TwoRails Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	That seems pretty cool. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Force Flow Barefoot on the Moon! Staff Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 13,285	Sure it does. Isn't it only limited to XP Pro, though? Does 2000 server ed. have the ability to use it? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Nuclear Krusader Mondsreitersmann Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Skingrad Posts: 8,734	Supposedly HyperThreading gives you the performance of two CPUs with only one! Is that true actually? Intel boasts a lot about it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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rave Member (10 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nottingham UK or Kuala Lumpur Malaysia Posts: 600	actually to my knowledge... it ouly gives a 30% speed increasement for programs that are optimized for it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	There is a nice article on hyperthreading at intel.com..check it out! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Cpt.Kirk Member (5 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: OR Posts: 27	Windows NT4, i think 3.5 does not sure though, 2K flavors, and XP can support multiple procs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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