CPU fan failed!! CPU failed!!blue screens in XP! HELP please

[ceminess]

Okay i will start from the begining. but first tell you the specs of my computer.
asus mobo, p4s533
P4 proce. 2.4ghz 533mghz fsb w/ default heatsink fan and cooling pad thingy.
120GB hard drive WD jb edition.
ATI all in wonder 9700 pro
liteon cdr 52/24/52
benq dvd 16x drive
sony 3 1/2 floppy
using tv as the monitor (nec lcd monitor on its way 17" 1760nx-bk)
using pccillin as virus protector, and zone alarm pro as firewall
using windows xp pro.

I think that sums it up on the hardware, now with the problems.

For a while I have been getting blue screens when I try to do stuff like starting a game, and software with big processing. and my computer has been freezing up a lot too. the blue screens said that it was my graphics card and to update my drivers, so i did that, it did not work, then i updated the rest of my drivers on my computer.

still blue screens, so I just thought that it was because of me using my tv as a monitor so i just ignored the blue screens (BIG mistake). A couple of times i got a message from my post saying that my cpu fan failed test i just restarted my computer and thought maybe it just didn't power up. last night sat march 22. I was using my computer and it frooze up on every little task i do, as simple as opening up My documents. I was hitting ctrl alt del a lot so i got fed up and pressed the power button to restart my computer. when it loaded up everything seemed fine post was okay, untill xp pro booted up, right after the loading screen a blue screen flashed then it restarted, After messing with my bios a couple times i checked the inside for any loose cords, nothing, but after that when i turned on my computer my post reporter (vioce post) said cpu failed test...cpu failed test.

Thats were I am at, when i pulled out my cpu heatsink fan and looked at my processor the pad on the heatsink had an indentation of the cpu, and the cpu had black stuff all over it. I have had this couputer for about 6 monts now. I built it myself.

Please help me, i will beg.

[ceminess]

forgot one thing if it is important 512mb of pc 2700 ram

[Evil-Lab-Monkey]

Originally posted by ceminess the cpu had black stuff all over it

Sounds like you have a fried CPU on your hands unfortunatly.

[ceminess]

thats what i was afraid of, but how did it happen, was it a falty heatsink fan?
do i just replace my cpu and fan and everything will be all right?
cause i do not want this to happen again.

b.t.w i also have a 400w antec power supply.

[HAL9000]

The black stuff would be the thermal pad material, I doubt the CPU fried. Try resetting your bios to the defaults.

[ceminess]

how do i do that??

[HAL9000]

Check your manual for the location of the jumper to reset the BIOS to the default values. If you set any dip switches to set the CPU speed, set them all back to the factory defaults and let the BIOS set the CPU speed.

[ceminess]

ok I will try that

[ceminess]

it did not work i moved the jumper to clrcmos1 waited five seconds. moved it back plugged computer back in, then got the same "system failed cpu test."

[kissfan]

You did leave the power cord connected while you reset the Cmos didn't you?

Other things I would try.

1. Swap out CPU (if you can).
2. Get a new HSF assembly. (sometimes a faulty fan can give this, as the cmos, sees it as a fault when it is a power down by the board.)

When you removed the HSF assembly, did the CPU come out of the socket also? I have seen this happen, infront of my very eyes. Some of the OEM Paste/Pads supplied with the P4 bond so tight with the CPU that when U remove the HSF it brings the CPU with it !!!!

If this is the case then I guarantee that the CPU has a bent or broken pin(s).

[azscary]

You must leave the computer plugged in to reset the CMOS.

[ceminess]

after some messing around i was able to get into bios, but when i turn on the computer for the first time i get a message that says cpu fan failed test then my computer says to press del. to enter bios, when i enter bios my cpu fan speed is highlighted in red.
The cpu did not come out of the socket when i looked at it.

I still cannot boot into windows, i keep on getting a flash of blue screen then my computer restarts.

I do not have a spare hsf to replace ( i wish i did) i have been thinking about going to the store tomarrow and getting a new one (nice and big). I do not have a spare cpu ether.

If i get a new hsf will my blue screen problems go away? i have a modded window on the side of my case and when the computer comes on the hsf comes on too, and is always running.

[Spyda]

the CPU coming out of the closed socket isnt always a problem, if you pull it staright up, mine did that, it was stuck really hard, but none of the pins bent a bit. still works fine

what CPU fan speed rpm does it say?

[mike breck]

Hi ceminess,

Does the PC start in Safe Mode?

Double-check your motherboard manual for how to clear the CMOS properly. This tends to vary depending on which Asus mobo you have. For example, with the Asus A7V333, you must remove the mobo battery before shorting the CLR_RTC points on the mobo.

Also unless the P4S533 is radically different, you generally power down and pull the power lead from the wall socket, before clearing the CMOS.

However, check your manual for precise details.

Check your manual and make sure the CPU fan is connected to the correct header on the mobo. If you have a PSU fan RPM monitoring lead connected to the mobo, try disconnecting it.

Try the new HSF and make sure you clean off the residue of the old Thermal Pad material from the CPU heat spreader with pure alcohol which you can get from a Pharmacy. The Thermal Pad should only be used once.

Try taking the mobo out of the case, with the basic components, and see if you still get CPU failure messages.

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...threadid=12753

HTH

[glc]

Originally posted by azscary You must leave the computer plugged in to reset the CMOS.

NOPE - other way around!

If the CPU fan is faulty, you have a 3 year warranty if it was a retail "in a box" processor and you do NOT remove the provided thermal pad.

What speed is the fan reporting? The stock Intel should run at about 2600 rpm, but depending on model, it can be as high as 4500.

[Spyda]

why do you have to keep the thermal pad on the intel heatsink? even if youve used t and are upgrading the HSF, you have to keep it on for your warranty?
seems a bit pointless that a melted, unuseable heatpad will keep your warranty

[HAL9000]

Not pointless at all. The CPU and heatsink are meant to be installed as per their specification. If you deviate from the specification, they have the right to not honour the warranty.

[ceminess]

My cpu fan is running at about 2376 but when i turned it on this morning i did not get a cpu fan failed test warning.
i cannot get into safe mode. and i double checked on how to do a clrcmos and i did it right the first time, even after i got booted into bios i reseted to defaults just to make sure.
i have a 3 year warrenty on my hsf and processor.

going to remove my mobo from its case and try some of the stuff on that link above.

[ceminess]

nothing is working, i did everything from that link and nothing worked. i do not know of anything else to do other than reinstall windows, but i am afraied that if i do that then i would still be getting the blue screens and this would just happen all over again.

maybe i should take it to the hardware shop down the road. although i hate doing it but...

[Spyda]

so you only get the warranty if you use the provided intel hsf then?
cos having that heatpad on a hsf you arent even installing makes it useless

[azscary]

Originally posted by glc NOPE - other way around! If the CPU fan is faulty, you have a 3 year warranty if it was a retail "in a box" processor and you do NOT remove the provided thermal pad. What speed is the fan reporting? The stock Intel should run at about 2600 rpm, but depending on model, it can be as high as 4500.

Thanks GLC. It has been awhile since I have had to reset a CMOS and after I dug out my MB manual and blew the dust off I realized that OOPS yep you have to unplug the system. My manual for my IWill board says to jumper the reset CMOS for at least a full minute before plugging it back in but I don't know if the ASUS is the same. I seem to remember having an issue resetting a CMOS once that I had to leave it jumpered for 5 minutes to get it to reset. Of course, that was Noah's computer I was working on. LOL

[ceminess]

wow one minute, mine was only 5 sec.

[HAL9000]

Originally posted by Spyda so you only get the warranty if you use the provided intel hsf then? cos having that heatpad on a hsf you arent even installing makes it useless

OEM doesn't come with a heatsink and has a 30 day warranty, retail boxed comes with the heatsink and has 3 years. I guess if they can prove that you were not using their heatsink, they could refuse the warranty.

[ceminess]

i put my computer back together in my case and nothing is reporting wrong in bios, my cpu fan is running at 2376 rpm.

but i still get that dang blue screen, could it be something with my video card?

[ceminess]

well i am using there heatsink, so....

[Cricket]

Have you tried swapping out the RAM yet?

What about trying a different video card? Problem could be the video RAM.

Have you tried to boot into Window Safe Mode?

Cricket

[Spyda]

did you replace the thermal pad or whatever with another one after reinstalling it, it could be not making contact and the temp could be frying it

[mike breck]

You must try to boot into Safe Mode.

As soon as the BIOS has finished loading, begin tapping the F8 key on your keyboard. Continue to do so until the Windows Advanced Options menu appears, then choose Safe mode.

This will help to determine whether this is hardware or software problem. If it can boot into Safe Mode, and run happily in Safe Mode, then the Blue Screen (BSOD) is most likely caused by drivers or software loading at Startup.

If you can get into Safe Mode, then disable Automatic Restart.
This will give us a chance to see what the BSOD actually says. Invariably it will mention the the file which is causing the problem.

Start > Control Panel > Settings > System (in the Classic-style

Start Menu, Control Panel is under Settings).

Click Advanced > System And Recovery > Settings.

In the System Failure section, clear the Automatically Restart

check box, then click OK.


HTH

[ceminess]

I cannot boot into windows in safe mode, or any other screen that is listed there.

but i will try to swap out the video card and replace it with my old one, i will also try to swap out my memory too.

if all else failes maybe i will use this web site that i found

http://www.digitalwebcast.com/2002/0..._boot_toot.htm

[ceminess]

The video card swap did not work, and come to find out the i do not have a second memory stick to test the memory out.

i have not tried replacing the thermal pad, i do have thermal past i can put on it but i am not sure if it would void the warrenty.

i tried that link i posted but when i went into windows repair, it would not let me get into the C:\windows directory it said it was an invaild directory like it did not exist.