Mitsumi CD-ROM

[Charles]

I am trying to boot up from this Mitsumi CRMC-FX001D CD-ROM from 1994.
After changing the boot sequence I load with Win98 startup disk "with CD-ROM support", but get message "no drives found" aborting installation", then at the end I get this other message "Device driver not found: 'OEMCDOO1'. No valid CDROM device drivers selected", Drive had power and ejects allright.
Am I missing anything here?

[Cricket]

Where is the Mitsumi hooked up to? The sound card? Or the IDE controller port on the motherboard?

Cricket

[Charles]

The IDE controller on the motherboard. I tried on IDE 1 with the HD and IDE 2 but no recognition with the same messages stated above.

[Cricket]

Is the CD-ROM drive jumpered properly for the type of IDE cable you're using? Master or slave if you're using a 40 wire IDE cable. CS or CSel (cable select) if you're using a 80 wire IDE cable.

Are you sure that CD-ROM drive works? Have you tried another CD-ROM drive yet?

When you change the boot order in BIOS, are you choosing Save when you Exit?

Cricket

[Charles]

This CD-ROM doesn't have any jumpers for slave or master, it is pretty old. I am looking at the manual and I think I may have to download software to be able to boot from it.

I tried all the others.

[Cricket]

Are you sure that CD-ROM doesn't use a proprietary interface that you find on some old soundcards? No jumpers makes it sound like it could be proprietary.

Cricket

[glc]

Download this, unzip the 2 driver files onto the bootdisk, and edit the config.sys to use 1 of them - if that doesn't work, use the other. The generic oakcdrom.sys driver on the 98 bootdisk does not work with old Mitsumi drives.

[Charles]

I keep downloading this zip file but when I look there is nothing there. Can you post it again? Also, do I have to have a controller card (propietary) to use this CD-ROM like suggested above?

[Charles]

I was able to download the file in school.

I downloaded the manual for Mitsumi CRMC-FX001D CD-ROM and it shows it comes with a controller card. The motherboard I am using is a Mainboard HOT-569 V2.X.(P5.AT.i430TX) It has 2 IDE connectors. Is the controller in the motherboard?

What entry do I need to make in config.sys to try these drivers?

[glc]

Whoops - the FX-001D is proprietary, it's not IDE. Find another drive, that's only a 2X anyway. You would need either a controller card or a sound card with proprietary CD-Rom interfaces on it - and some more drivers and config.sys entries. Sorry about that, I was thinking the FX400, that's Mitsumi's first IDE drive, it's a 4x.

If you don't want to permanently install an IDE drive in it, you can remove the IDE drive when Win98 is finished installing and put the old beast back in WITH a controller card or proper sound card, and Windows will have the drivers you need to make it work.

[Charles]

I have 2 sound cards and 1 controller card that may work here. Soundcards are Creative CT2890 and CT2940. The interface card is a DTK PTI-227B. I am going to try your suggestion with another Drive and then use one of these. Let me know which one is my best bet and how to go about it. Thanks.

[Charles]

Well I have the soundcard working and showing an IDE interface but nobody is recognizing the CD-ROM. Do I need to enter config.sys files for this puppy to work?

[glc]

I found both the drivers and the manual -

http://www.mitsumi.com/enduser/1_drivers.html

It's not an IDE interface you want - that's a proprietary 40 pin SCSI drive. You need a controller card for that drive or an old sound card that has the proprietary interfaces. That CD drive will NOT work on an IDE interface, period.

[Charles]

How did you find out it is a SCSI drive? I looked in the manual for SCSI but didn't see anything. Thanks for following up.

[glc]

All CD drives were SCSI back then, and it wasn't standard SCSI, it was a proprietary interface. That drive originally shipped with an ISA interface card with a bucketload of jumpers and drivers for Dos/Win 3.1. Remember that this drive came out in 1993. Creative came out with a Soundblaster 16 ISA around the same time that had 3 different proprietary CD interfaces on it - I *think* they were labeled Sony, Panasonic, and Mitsumi. You selected the one you needed with jumpers - and set the rest of the jumpers for all the parameters of the card, plug and play hadn't even been dreamed of yet.

[Charles]

Do you happen to know by any chance this card model? Thanks.

[glc]

Nope, sorry. Maybe you can e-mail Mitsumi and ask.

I personally wouldn't mess with it when you can buy a new 52x IDE drive for $20. Not worth it, you don't even comprehend how slow a 2x drive is with today's CD's.

[Charles]

Thanks.