HELP! CPU temps!

[MonkeyBlitch]

I just finished building a pc and its using a AMD ATHLON XP 2200+ cpu and in BIOS it displays the cpu temp at 55 degrees celsuis! Is that temp ok? The system temp is at 29 degress celcius and the rpm of the cpu fan is 37500 or something like that. Will the cpu be ok?

[Fuze]

It will be fine. However, I'm more concerned for your ears if your fan RPM is that high. That must be a screamer (unless its a typo as I assume). My system runs at 52 with no problems. I wouldn't worry.

[wickedstyle]

Well is the computer freezing on you?? or becoming unstable? How many case fans you running on it??

[morriswindgate]

If you have one of the newer boards, then it is able to read the actual COre temp on the XP CPU which is going to be in that area. The temps that you normally see mentioned on the forum for AMD CPUs are ones taken off the sensor that is built into the base of the cpu socket and it is what AMD based the max temps on. These temps should be in the 35 to 45 degree C area at idle.

[MonkeyBlitch]

Im running 2 fans blowing out and I will install 2 more on the front to blow air in and the PSU also removes heat out of the case. I mest up on the rpm of the cpu fan. I added thermal compound on the die of the cpu and installed the AMD heatsink and fan that came with the cpu (retail). Its running smooth, first time booted up perfect. So is the processor going to be ok???

[wickedstyle]

It should be fine. Enjoy it!

[MonkeyBlitch]

Whats the average temp on a athlon xp processor?

[wickedstyle]

Hmm well mines is a 2000+AMD mines run on around 47C but I got 2 intake fans and 2 exhausts My 47C is at full loads.

[MonkeyBlitch]

Oh I feel much better now. So when I add 2 more fans the temp should drop right becuase its currently at 55 degrees.

[wickedstyle]

I dont know how much degrees it would drop your cpu to but it should help on cooling.

[Spyda]

hey, its probably wrong, my BIOS can say 49C, my temp monitor can say 57C and a program such as SiSoft sandra will say 51C, which do you take as correct.... they are probably all wrong here and there

[Cricket]

Originally posted by MonkeyBlitch So is the processor going to be ok???

You have to remember that AMD says their CPU's can go up to a maximum temp of 90 C (194 F) before they fail...so as long as your computer is running stable, you really don't have anything to worry about.

Cricket

[TwoRails]

As Spyda sez, there is a big range of reported temps. Even between two exact / identical systems, temps can vary easily by 15°s or more!

55° is not bad. Being in the 50s is not the "death kiss" that many rumors say it is. If it is running fine, then it is, well. running fine!

On the front fan thing... I stopped running front fans as I've never seen a decrease in temps. Even AMD recommends to Not run front fans as they tend to circulate the hot instead of cool the box down.

If front fans do show a noticable decrease in temps, then that would indicate a cluter and / or a case design problem, not a CPU cooling problem. For example, many cases have fancy holes along the top perimiter, and too many holes in back by the cards, so the rear fans don't draw the air thru the case in a proper manner.

HTH

TwoRails

[eshaft716]

Mine runs mid 40's under full load, dont worry about it unless you start experiencing problems with the comp.

[got_ammo]

My 2100 I used to have ran at 55 load or something. You should be fine unless you get errors or freeze ups.

[MonkeyBlitch]

I haven't experienced any problems whatsoever and anyways I booted up the pc twice. Thanks for the info, If I find some freeze up or something then I will know its the cpu temp. When I booted the pc for the first time it booted up perfect and has been perfect ever since.

[Spyda]

torture it woith a 4 hour 3DMark2001SE batch run and then run SiSoft Sandras burn in wizard on high(stress) 20 times. if its gonna crash, they will make it crash!! if it doesnt, congrats you have built a solid PC!

[Cricket]

Originally posted by MonkeyBlitch Thanks for the info, If I find some freeze up or something then I will know its the cpu temp.

Freezes and lockup aren't always caused by CPU temps, they can be caused by many other things too...software glitches or conflicts, hardware problems, power problems, driver problems, etc...

If your system does freezes up, reboot it and go into BIOS and check the temps right away. If they're really high (above 70 C) then you need to do something about it. But if they're normal, you need to troubleshoot to find the cause.

Cricket

[glc]

I added thermal compound on the die of the cpu and installed the AMD heatsink and fan that came with the cpu (retail).

Please clarify - if you did not remove the thermal pad from the heatsink, this is a problem. You cannot use BOTH a pad and compound.

[MonkeyBlitch]

I removed the thermal pad tape from the heatsink, on the AMD manual it says to do this and I added a small amount of heatsink compound on the die of the cpu becuase the motherboard manual said to do this. I already installed Win Xp and got 49 celcius. What should I do?

[MonkeyBlitch]

Man I'm in deep trouble please someone help me out.

[Alaron]

49C is not that bad of a temperature, dont worry. Like others have said, if the computer is stable, then the temperature is not a problem, whether it is 4.9C or 49C. You can test the stability by testing it with Spyda's method. If that doesnt crash your system, you are good to go. Enjoy your computer!

[MonkeyBlitch]

No, I'm about to die if I don't fix this!!! I contacted AMD to let them know what happened and am waiting for thier response...The 49C is from a hardware monitoring program. I can't run tests becuase I can't connect to the internet. Great now I have to spend an extra $35 for a heatsink/fan and install it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MonkeyBlitch]

Anybody have any suggestions?

[Alaron]

What exactly is the problem? Not being able to connect to the internet is not related to overheating. If the computer is stable, there's nothing to worry about. 49 is not a high temp.

[MonkeyBlitch]

Originally posted by glc Please clarify - if you did not remove the thermal pad from the heatsink, this is a problem. You cannot use BOTH a pad and compound.

^ that is the problem.

[morriswindgate]

Software based monitoring programs are CRAP! don't trust them at all.
If the bios temp is ok after about twenty minutes you are fine. Don't buy into all this junk about needing a firesuit to use an AMD cpu.
And read what i said before about the newer boards being able to read the cpu core temp which is going to be higher than what the old boards stated as cpu temps.
In other words there is nothing wrong with your system except the operator!

[MonkeyBlitch]

Alright buy what happens if I leave the heatsink compound and the thermal pad together on the cpu?

[Alaron]

Oh, dont worry. Its not a big problem. We already know your CPU is fine, since it boots up. The main problem with the compound and pad is that the cpu isnt getting proper contact with the heatsink and it burns up, but thats not the case here. What you need to do is remove the heatsink, and clean everything off of it, pad and compound. Use rubbing alcohol to clean the heatsink off. Once the the heatsink is clean, wipe all of the the compound of the die of the processor. When everything is clean, re-apply the compound to the cpu and heatsink, as directed by AMD. Once you've done this, the cpu should boot up, and be a bit cooler. HTH
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/23986.pdf

[MonkeyBlitch]

Alright so I have to get the compound, what brand do you recommend? I'm thinking of Arctic Silver 3.