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Old 09-30-2003, 07:29 PM   #1
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explain plzz

ok im biulding a computer soon and need to knoe how to set the jumper and master slave...if u can explain to me how u set this up i will be good to go...

i will only be using dvd/cd rom combo....no floppy or any other optical drives....so if u can explain this i would appriate it very much...thanx
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Old 09-30-2003, 08:11 PM   #2
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For 80 wire UltraATA IDE cables, the blue connector goes to the motherboard, the black to your main hard drive and the grey goes to the slave drive (if you're running two drives on the primary IDE channel). Hard drive should be jumpered to CS (cable select) and connected to the black connector.

For the optical drives (CD, DVD, etc...), if you're using a 80 wire UltraATA IDE cable, set the jumper to CS as in the above instructions. But if you're using a 40 wire ATA33 IDE cable, set the combo drive to master...position on IDE cable doesn't matter.

So basically...80 wire IDE cable - use CS jumper setting. 40 wire IDE cable - use master or slave jumper setting.

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Old 09-30-2003, 08:19 PM   #3
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oo ok thanx...u have anu pictures of ur computer i would liek to see it seeing u know so much u prolly have a nice all maced out...????
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Old 09-30-2003, 08:36 PM   #4
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oo ok thanx...u have anu pictures of ur computer i would liek to see it seeing u know so much u prolly have a nice all maced out...????
This is my main computer that I use daily:

Chenbro Value Series Mid-tower case
235 Watt Sparkle Power PS
Shuttle Spacewalker HOT-641 (Intel BX chipset)
400 MHz Pentium II w/stock HSF
256 MB PC100 Kingston Value RAM
Matrox G200 AGP 16MB
Soundblaster AWE64
USRobotics Sportster 56K ISA
30 GB Western Digital BB 7200 RPM
Plextor 16/10/40A CD-RW
Sony CDU5211 52X CD-ROM
TEAC floppy
Win98SE

I built it back in 1998 and have been very happy with it's performance ever since. It's had a few parts replaced here and there (1 stick of RAM, 1 video card, 1 modem and 2 hard drives have died in it over the years). The computer looks like this inside, but I've removed the front fan since I took this picture. The case itself isn't modified, just a plain beige box.

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Old 10-01-2003, 05:37 AM   #5
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ahhh u deserver to make urself a new one man...lol...so all the infromation on the wires and jumpers should come in the retail box of the mobo...right???
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Old 10-01-2003, 01:03 PM   #6
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ahhh u deserver to make urself a new one man.
Realistically, I don't need a faster computer since mine does everything I need it to...and I really don't want a faster computer since mine really isn't that much slower than the 2GHz and faster computers I've been building recently...at least not for the kinds of things I use computers for.
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so all the infromation on the wires and jumpers should come in the retail box of the mobo...right???
No, the motherboard will come with a motherboard manual that will tell you everything you need to know about the motherboard. The hard drive jumper settings can be found on the website of the hard drive manufacturer or if you have a retail hard drive, the information should be in the box somewhere.

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Old 10-01-2003, 02:00 PM   #7
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oo ok i got ya...yeah im getting everything retial so hopfully ill get evetrything
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IS THERE A PHysical difference bettwen and 80 and 40 wire ribbon?
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IS THERE A PHysical difference bettwen and 80 and 40 wire ribbon?
Sure is. The 80 wire is a smoother cable, because the wires inside are smaller. The 40wire ATA is very bumpy and because the wires inside it are thicker, you can count the 40 inside.
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Old 10-01-2003, 02:50 PM   #10
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im getting the Thermaltake XASER III V2420A....and after i get it working i want to get the roundcables for it...so can someone find me them on newegg..the ones i need and a blue lighted led fan....i dont exactly know wut i need for that case...thanx
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Is there a difference in the heads? I have this one ide cable where the head is twice as long as my normal ides. I count 39 holes on my normal ides, is there a difference with the number of wholes?

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Old 10-01-2003, 02:59 PM   #12
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Is there a difference in the heads? I have this one ide cable where the head is twice as long as my normal ides. I count 39 holes on my normal ides, is there a difference with the number of wholes?
That could be a SCSI cable...some have 50 holes and some have 68 holes.

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Old 10-01-2003, 02:59 PM   #13
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no its ok...i read em' all anyway..so ur good here...hah
just give me some feedbak on my questions if u can
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Old 10-01-2003, 03:05 PM   #14
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Ive found that if you goto SVC.com they have REALLLLLLY cheap prices on cosmetic things for your computer. Its worth the money to get your cosmetic things from here rather than newegg.com. Keep in mind svc's shipping lags like 2 days behind neweggs.

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Old 10-01-2003, 03:06 PM   #15
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can i just gte any 80mm blue led fan for my case or r there any thing special???....is there a certain one i need to plug it into the fan controls????
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any 80 mm fan will fit in any 80 mm fan slot. They are all essentially the same.
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Heres a good fan kevin. Its the first one at this link. http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...%2CBLUE%2CLEDs

The Thermaltake Xaser cases come with a bunch of fans. They are extremely loud if you hook them all up. I recommend taking out the included fans, all of them and leaving in a couple lighted fans. This will give you much less noise and lights.

Rounded cables are here: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...round%2Ccables

Depending on your drive configuration, get the appropriate cables. For example, if you have 2 optical drives, one floppy and one hdd: Get a single device floppy, a singel device hdd and a dual device for the opticals. Lengthwise you could probably use a short one for the hdd and floppy and a longer one for opticals.

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ok i will order those but r there any special connections i need to hook them up to the fan controll/?????
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I believe it jsut hooks in with the 3 pin connector.
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o ok...thanx man...so no special connetors???

u live in nj?? where?
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Old 10-01-2003, 03:22 PM   #21
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Old 10-01-2003, 03:27 PM   #22
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oo im in ocean..hehe
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Everyone I meet online is from either Ocean or one of the counties right next to bergen. It's like the rest of the counties don't have electricity.
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Final dessision...odering this weekend

case -- Thermaltake XASER III V2420+U ( SILVER ) 12-Bay All Aluminum ATX Super Tower Chassis w/ Locks + (W0009)420W Power supply - Retail

mobo -- ASUS Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Processors, 800Mhz FSB Model# P4C800 DELUXE Retail w/ ASUS AI Features

cpu -- Intel Pentium 4 / 2.4CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL eventually OC to aorund 2.6-.8

memory -- CORSAIR 512MB PC3200 VALUE SELECT. VS512MB400 DDR RAM - OEM (x2 1 gig)

Harddrive -- Maxtor 80.0GB Internal Hard Drive 8 cache 7200 rpm ATA/EIDE interface

Video card -- POWERCOLOR Evil Commando 2 ATI RADEON 9700 PRO 128MB DDR DVI+CRT+TV AGP RETAIL

Drives -- dvd/cd-rom combo already have
no floppy A

OS -- Windows xp pro
Fans -- ANTEC Case fan With BLUE LEDs Lights (2 or 3)
and roujnd cables wen i get money....

any suggestion i need to know and any suprises i should come acrross???? lol thanx

OOO and i use cable modem but im gonna run it on wireless with the usb port so that should be ok right????
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everything looks good to me, its gonna be a pretty nice system. Good Luck on your build!
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I would order a long rounded cable at least 1 24"

sounds nice good luck have fun
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just one more question....wen i hook up the video card and turn on the comp for the first time ill still get the picture right??? then once i get into windows i have to install the drivers and updates????

is that how it works???
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Old 10-01-2003, 05:11 PM   #28
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When you first get your parts, assemble the motherboard, CPU, heatsink/fan, video card, RAM, PC case speaker (if necessary), power supply and monitor out of the case on a non-conductive surface and power it up to see if the system will POST (Power On Self Test). Yes, if everything is working right you'll see a some words describing the system POSTing on the monitor. All device drivers are installed after the OS is installed.

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o ok..i think i get it...
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AS long as you dont break anything you can fix it by comign here. the only problems you should encounter, is that its really surprising how much force it takes to put the HS on the proc, the ram is also a bit hard but the HS install makes you sweat.
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