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# R1 · 10-06-2003, 02:23 PM

ive been looking to build a pc and was wondering whats the fastest and best processors. i have always been a AMD guy but i could switch if there was a huge difference.

RJ · 10-06-2003, 02:25 PM

ARG ! Not again. Please use the search function of this forum as there have been plenty of threads like this.

RJ

HAL9000 · 10-06-2003, 03:27 PM

I agree....posting such threads just leads to wars... everyone has their reasons for using their choice and such threads are counter productive. Use the search... better yet, hit the pages like Toms Hardware or Anand Tech and look at the reviews and benchmarks.... for me, its Intel, Pontiac, and frosted mini wheats.

Propain · 10-06-2003, 04:10 PM

For me its AMD, Pontiacs and Frosted Flakes eh

cdnref · 10-06-2003, 06:48 PM

AMD

lil Jimmie · 10-06-2003, 06:57 PM

Intel, ASUS, GM, and Cerveza

imbest123 · 10-06-2003, 07:09 PM

Intel

oddjob · 10-06-2003, 07:34 PM

Variety is the spice of life...just might do an Intel build the next time around.

I'm on my 4th AMD, never built an Intel machine. Do whatever makes you feel good.

jimmyrules712 · 10-06-2003, 07:37 PM

simply put, they both work great, amd is for cheapsters like me, intel is for rich dudes who like paying more for a product with a few more fancy terms in the description

lil Jimmie · 10-06-2003, 08:15 PM

I have built a few AMD systems and still have an AMD system which runs fine, but I just prefer Intel quality, they run cooler, overclock easier, very dependable and are quieter to cool.

bigandy · 10-06-2003, 08:39 PM

Like RJ and HAL mentioned please do a search first, there are quite a few of these threads around. But if you really want to "know" which is "better". Use them both, and figure out which you like better. AMD and Intel are both good CPUs, it's all personal preference.

HAL9000 · 10-06-2003, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyrules712
simply put, they both work great, amd is for cheapsters like me, intel is for rich dudes who like paying more for a product with a few more fancy terms in the description

Off the cheaper bandwagon already... there's always somebody. Build a mid to top end Intel and it can be done cheaper than the AMD... if you're building on the low end... ya.. the AMD is cheaper, but not by hundreds of dollars anymore either.

As for fancy terms... Intel doesn't have Hyper Transport or Quantispeed or whatever it is.... off that bandwagon too please

Hi Ho · 10-06-2003, 10:53 PM

AMD, Ford, and Lucky Charms!

They are both great processors and you will be happy with whatever you choose.

Confused · 10-07-2003, 04:58 AM

If you really want to build a good system you will concern yourself less with AMD or Intel and concentrate more on a quality board, video card and HD's.
Chas

Karnevil9 · 10-07-2003, 05:40 AM

I'm waiting for them to invent the Amtel

mjdurrbeck · 10-07-2003, 06:43 AM

Big Mac or Whopper....

Well, its about the same argument

mjdurrbeck

***glc*** · 10-07-2003, 12:02 PM

Why are we doing this AGAIN?

morriswindgate · 10-07-2003, 12:06 PM

Couldn't you have at least posted it as Cyrix vs Intel or Cyrix vs AMD so all of us would have and easy time with the responses and not have to worry about hard feeling between friends.
Next thing that will be posted is how fast a G5 Mac is.

DarkHorse · 10-07-2003, 12:19 PM

Intel, GM/Pontiac, and Honey Nut Cheerios!

Sorry for resurrecting this dead horse, but I thought the other stuff was an interesting twist

Karnevil9 · 10-07-2003, 03:13 PM

How fast is a G5 Mac compared to a 64 bit Whopper?

HAL9000 · 10-07-2003, 03:34 PM

No nearly as fast as a BK whopper which kicks the Big Mac's butt.

imbest123 · 10-07-2003, 03:49 PM

Im confused now my head hurts. What is the argument aboot now?

largosama · 10-07-2003, 04:02 PM

From my point of view, the people are trying to get off the subject of AMD vs. Intel Debate/war version. whatever... Notice how most of these debates are started by newer members that concern themselves with the processors because for their lifetime, its like "Theres something other than Intel? namely my friends who say "whats amd?"

icallmedan · 10-07-2003, 06:38 PM

Ok, let me set something straight, the absolute best processors are Dual 486's, It's what I run my Half Life server on, with a 14.4Kbps connection. I use my Prodigy internet like no other....I also have (2) 800Mb HDD in Raid 0, If you could only imagine the speed...I have a Packard Bell, Pentium 60 as my main computer.....and run my AMD K6 computer as a spare. I like them both...I can only wait for the day when computers will break the 100MHz line....

Cricket · 10-07-2003, 07:36 PM

Wow, feel like I was just caught in a time warp and sent back to 1993

.

Cricket

Colonel Sanders · 10-07-2003, 07:43 PM

AMD, Pontiac(gasp!), and Coco puffs!

If nothing else, a roasted Athlon will taste better than a P4.

L J

# R1 · 10-07-2003, 09:02 PM

i was thinking of gettin a amd 3200, but is that new 64 bit amd better?

HAL9000 · 10-07-2003, 10:11 PM

The AMD 64 bit processor is better.. but be prepared to pay for it not to mention, the current hardware is unproven and in some cases, unsupported until 64 bit software becomes the mainstream. You can go with 64 bit and be their beta tester, or you can go with whats proven and works... at those kinda speeds.. they're all fast.

As a side comment to that... I have to laugh at some of the benchmarks... 257FPS in a game???? your eye sees 60 max.... so saying well this processor makes it do 267FPS... a really stupid comparison when you think about it.

Alfie · 10-08-2003, 01:34 AM

It's always amusing how benchmarks can be used as a proving point when it's in Intel's favor,but how it becomes meaningless when it's in AMD's favor.
The AMD 64 is backward compatible with 32bit,it's the only cpu made that is.
With it's unique memory controller built into the cpu it does offer blistering speed in all 32bit applications and promises even more as 64 bit comes available.
It is comatible with all current hardware,so this isn't an issue.
Finding pc3200 ecc memory may be a problem,but it's specifications are about to be released by jedec.
The price of the 64 is high,but when your the fastest on the block with the future built in...
Will prices drop,probably.
AMD should be praised for producing a very fine cpu,just as they were when the Athlon came out,without the competition AMD offers,the P4 may have never been.
We know it's a good cpu as Intel has about 8 paper launches of what they're going to do.
Microsoft is the one that laid down the law and advised Intel to follow AMD's lead,Intel refused and instead are taking a different lead,offering a 64 bit only cpu with a possible launch of a 64 bit with software support for 32 bit.
Hardware will beat emulation every time.

HAL9000 · 10-08-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alfie
It's always amusing how benchmarks can be used as a proving point when it's in Intel's favor,but how it becomes meaningless when it's in AMD's favor.

Sorry Alfie.. but that gave me a great morning laugh... AMD fanatics have done that for years as well. Not to mention I wasn't naming names with my comparison.... was making a statement. You can't honestly tell me that in my statement, you could visually tell me which was which processor.

And paper launch.... same could be said for the FX processor... kinda like the PIII 1.0Ghz... its already been stated, don't expect to find any kinda quantity of them till next year.

10-06-2003, 02:23 PM	#1
# R1 Member (4 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 8	AMD or INTEL ive been looking to build a pc and was wondering whats the fastest and best processors. i have always been a AMD guy but i could switch if there was a huge difference.

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RJ Member (14 bit) Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Offenbach/Main (Germany) Posts: 8,485	ARG ! Not again. Please use the search function of this forum as there have been plenty of threads like this. RJ __________________ All's right with the world when your PC is working right.

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HAL9000 "Normal" again....?? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 17,600	I agree....posting such threads just leads to wars... everyone has their reasons for using their choice and such threads are counter productive. Use the search... better yet, hit the pages like Toms Hardware or Anand Tech and look at the reviews and benchmarks.... for me, its Intel, Pontiac, and frosted mini wheats. __________________ -At Ford, quality is job #1, job #2 is making them explode. ~Norm MacDonald, SNL News -Switching to Glide..Balancing in my head..inside of me... taking the glide path instead.

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jimmyrules712 Member (11 bit) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,060	simply put, they both work great, amd is for cheapsters like me, intel is for rich dudes who like paying more for a product with a few more fancy terms in the description

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lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	I have built a few AMD systems and still have an AMD system which runs fine, but I just prefer Intel quality, they run cooler, overclock easier, very dependable and are quieter to cool.

10-06-2003, 08:39 PM	#11
bigandy Folding For PCMech Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Dimas, CA Posts: 3,136	Like RJ and HAL mentioned please do a search first, there are quite a few of these threads around. But if you really want to "know" which is "better". Use them both, and figure out which you like better. AMD and Intel are both good CPUs, it's all personal preference.

10-06-2003, 10:53 PM	#13
Hi Ho Certified Audio Nut Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 7,245	AMD, Ford, and Lucky Charms! They are both great processors and you will be happy with whatever you choose.

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Confused Member (13 bit) Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Mt Washington, KY Posts: 4,927	If you really want to build a good system you will concern yourself less with AMD or Intel and concentrate more on a quality board, video card and HD's. Chas __________________ I may not be much, but I'm all I think about.

10-07-2003, 05:40 AM	#15
Karnevil9 Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 985	I'm waiting for them to invent the Amtel

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mjdurrbeck Member (6 bit) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 60	Big Mac or Whopper.... Well, its about the same argument mjdurrbeck

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morriswindgate Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,761	Couldn't you have at least posted it as Cyrix vs Intel or Cyrix vs AMD so all of us would have and easy time with the responses and not have to worry about hard feeling between friends. Next thing that will be posted is how fast a G5 Mac is.

10-07-2003, 12:19 PM	#19
DarkHorse Member (8 bit) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: "Boondocks", KY Posts: 184	Intel, GM/Pontiac, and Honey Nut Cheerios! Sorry for resurrecting this dead horse, but I thought the other stuff was an interesting twist

10-07-2003, 03:13 PM	#20
Karnevil9 Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 985	How fast is a G5 Mac compared to a 64 bit Whopper? Last edited by Karnevil9; 10-07-2003 at 10:18 PM.

10-07-2003, 03:34 PM	#21
HAL9000 "Normal" again....?? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 17,600	No nearly as fast as a BK whopper which kicks the Big Mac's butt.

10-07-2003, 03:49 PM	#22
imbest123 iTroll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 818 Posts: 2,252	Im confused now my head hurts. What is the argument aboot now?

10-07-2003, 04:02 PM	#23
largosama Member (9 bit) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: not-disclosed Posts: 449	From my point of view, the people are trying to get off the subject of AMD vs. Intel Debate/war version. whatever... Notice how most of these debates are started by newer members that concern themselves with the processors because for their lifetime, its like "Theres something other than Intel? namely my friends who say "whats amd?"

10-07-2003, 06:38 PM	#24
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,315	Ok, let me set something straight, the absolute best processors are Dual 486's, It's what I run my Half Life server on, with a 14.4Kbps connection. I use my Prodigy internet like no other....I also have (2) 800Mb HDD in Raid 0, If you could only imagine the speed...I have a Packard Bell, Pentium 60 as my main computer.....and run my AMD K6 computer as a spare. I like them both...I can only wait for the day when computers will break the 100MHz line....

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Cricket Shiro Usagi Premium Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii Posts: 34,002	Wow, feel like I was just caught in a time warp and sent back to 1993 . Cricket

10-07-2003, 09:02 PM	#27
# R1 Member (4 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 8	i was thinking of gettin a amd 3200, but is that new 64 bit amd better?

10-07-2003, 10:11 PM	#28
HAL9000 "Normal" again....?? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 17,600	The AMD 64 bit processor is better.. but be prepared to pay for it not to mention, the current hardware is unproven and in some cases, unsupported until 64 bit software becomes the mainstream. You can go with 64 bit and be their beta tester, or you can go with whats proven and works... at those kinda speeds.. they're all fast. As a side comment to that... I have to laugh at some of the benchmarks... 257FPS in a game???? your eye sees 60 max.... so saying well this processor makes it do 267FPS... a really stupid comparison when you think about it.

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10-08-2003, 01:34 AM	#29
Alfie Member (13 bit) Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 4,956	It's always amusing how benchmarks can be used as a proving point when it's in Intel's favor,but how it becomes meaningless when it's in AMD's favor. The AMD 64 is backward compatible with 32bit,it's the only cpu made that is. With it's unique memory controller built into the cpu it does offer blistering speed in all 32bit applications and promises even more as 64 bit comes available. It is comatible with all current hardware,so this isn't an issue. Finding pc3200 ecc memory may be a problem,but it's specifications are about to be released by jedec. The price of the 64 is high,but when your the fastest on the block with the future built in... Will prices drop,probably. AMD should be praised for producing a very fine cpu,just as they were when the Athlon came out,without the competition AMD offers,the P4 may have never been. We know it's a good cpu as Intel has about 8 paper launches of what they're going to do. Microsoft is the one that laid down the law and advised Intel to follow AMD's lead,Intel refused and instead are taking a different lead,offering a 64 bit only cpu with a possible launch of a 64 bit with software support for 32 bit. Hardware will beat emulation every time.

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