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10-29-2003, 03:42 PM
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its 50
just went there again its an extra 50 dollers for an assembly
http://www.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index....latformid=1001 |
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10-29-2003, 03:48 PM
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And what do you mean by complete list? The list of basic parts used or do you want the whole system spec'd out for you? You'll have to decide if you want an Intel or AMD system. Again, neither is better than the other...it just comes down to personal preference. For my own systems, I go with Intel...but I will build whatever the customer wants...AMD or Intel...it's up to them.  Cricket
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10-29-2003, 04:15 PM
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Ok, here is what I came up with while searching through newegg! If you guys could please let me know if this sounds like a good usefull system. Also, do you know if most of this comes with warrenties, and, what do u "think" the total will be around adding on shipping and such?
Please let me know if I should change anything, or anything along those lines (if I am missin ANYTHING needed to complete this system). Thanks Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM - $34.99 ATI All-In-Wonder RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB DDR 8X AGP RETAIL - $237.00 Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - PCI OEM - $68.00 AMD ATHLON XP 2500 "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- OEM - $87.00 Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400Mhz) Retail - $87.00 US Robotics 2976 56K V.90 Data, Fax, Voice Modem – OEM - $38.00 GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 Value 400MHz Ultra- CAS 2.5, 2T Command With Extreme Performance Heat Spreader - $85.00 WD WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 80GB 7200RPM EIDE HARD DRIVE - $73.50 MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99 Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KL-AL/350W - $46.00 Total: $763.48 (without shipping) Better? Last edited by JayBee; 10-29-2003 at 07:01 PM. |
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10-29-2003, 05:56 PM
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Anyone?
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10-29-2003, 06:06 PM
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Change that Samsung CD-RW to a Lite-On. Samsung drives are unreliable.
Change the modem to a USR 2977. It's a hardware controller modem, not a troublesome winmodem. What brand power supply comes with that case? Rest of the parts look fine. Cricket
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10-29-2003, 07:03 PM
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I edited it Cricket....better? Also, how much do u think shipping and additional costs would be? And is there anything I am missing? With all that I am set to run? Not missin any cables, or anything? And all that is good, and worth the buy?
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10-29-2003, 07:32 PM
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I'm feeling lazy right now, so does that motherboard have onboard sound? If so, I would trade the card in and buy speakers instead - I've heard onboard sound these days is comparable to a nice card, plus it will shave $70.
Shipping of course will vary by vendor. If you have time you can check to see if they have special deals. Zipzoomfly.com (formerly googlegear.com) had free 2-day shipping, which was a major factor when I chose them. One last tidbit, try to order most if not all your parts from the same place. It will save you a bundle on shipping. As for cables, retail boxes will typically include them (IDE ribbon and SATA for HD, audio for CD). Retail motherboard will cover your cable needs if all your drives are OEM. If you order retail drives, you'll just have extra cabling (which isn't a bad thing, just costs more). Just decide what's important. Good luck! |
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10-29-2003, 08:01 PM
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Get A
Radeon 9600Pro XTits only $200 |
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10-29-2003, 08:02 PM
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Alright, well all of that stuff is from newegg.com. So...I should be set. However, how does the shipping work, and all of that looks like it is set with all the needed stuff? Like u said Dark, "if it is retail and all, u should be set"...does it look as if though I ordered all that now, and when I got it, I would be able to set it up, and have everything needed to get it going?
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10-29-2003, 08:09 PM
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I couldn't find the 9600XT on newegg...if its there plz link me..thx
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10-29-2003, 08:11 PM
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Oh, shoot..sry for so many posts in such little time. I keep forgettin things. This AMD 2500+ I see is talked about a lot....must be a good cpu? What is the equivlant of that in the P4 model, and which would be better to get? The AMD Barton 2500+ or the Intel equivlant?
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10-29-2003, 08:27 PM
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...oh and I just checked if that mobo had sound. It does not say that it does, however maybe u guys know? Look at what it is in one of my above posts and see if u can tell...
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10-29-2003, 08:58 PM
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It's not XT but it's really close to it?
http://www.newegg.com/app/Viewproduc...=&srchFor=9600 Yes it has Audio 6 channel if my memory serves me? Last edited by cdnref; 10-29-2003 at 09:02 PM. |
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10-29-2003, 09:01 PM
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Well, think that 172$ one is a good buy? Good as in, something close to the AiW?
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10-29-2003, 10:09 PM
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Was wondering, if you guys could put some specs together that"u" would prefer, that cost about what the specs I put did. Or u can add on to mine, I jus want to see if what I picked is good, and the rights picks, and if I got everything needed.
Also, if someone could do up one or two good Intel (P4) specs, that are similar to the AMD system that would be great also. Last edited by JayBee; 10-29-2003 at 10:30 PM. |
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10-29-2003, 11:55 PM
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I'm not a gamer or overclocker, but if I had to build a new computer for myself right now, these are the parts I would build with:
Intel Pentium 4 / 2.6CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL $175.00 Intel Pentium 4 (800 FSB) Motherboard Model BOXD865PERLK - RETAIL $135.00 GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 Value 400MHz Ultra- CAS 2.5, 2T Command With Extreme Performance Heat SpreaderGL5123200B Value. $85.00 x 2 = $170.00 MATROX G550 32MB DDR 4x AGP- OEM $99.00 VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ - OEM $45.00 US Robotics 2977 56K V.90 Internal PCI Modem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) - OEM $37.00 Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM $108.00 Lite On 52x32x52 Beige Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S - OEM $36.99 Teac 1.44MB 3.5 Inch Floppy Drive # FD235HFC291 - OEM Version $7.75 Panasonic Panaflo Axial Fan 80x80x25.5mm, Ball Bearing: FBA08A 24L1A - OEM $8.00 x 2 = $16.00 Sub Total: $829.74 Shipping #37.84 Total: $ 867.58 AOpen H500A case with AOpen 300 watt PSU bought Locally $75 Grand Total: $942.58 But since I'm not in the market for a new computer yet, I'll just keep using my PII 400 Win98SE system  . Cricket
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10-30-2003, 03:55 AM
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Here is my suggestion All prices from newegg (www.newegg.com)
Case: $55 ENLIGHT Model# EN-7250-OX36 ATX MID-TOWER CASE w/ 360Watt POWER SUPPLY Proccesor: $215 Intel Pentium 4 / 2.8CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB Motherboard: $126 ASUS Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Processors, 800Mhz FSB Model# P4P800 Deluxe Memory: $89 Kingston 512MB DDR 400 Memory, Model KVR400XC3A/512 Hard Drive: $91 MAXTOR 80GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE MODEL # 6Y080M0 Floppy Drive: $5 You can pick one up anywhere CD Drive: $39.99 Lite On 52x32x52x Beige Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S DVD Drive: $31.99 LITE-ON XJ-HD166S/XJ-HD165H 16X DVD ROM Drive Graphics Card: $122 SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV RETAIL Total $896.98 (not including shipping) |
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10-30-2003, 07:51 AM
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Intel 2.8c 800fsb with hyperthreading $215
asus P4P800 $126 GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 $85 WD 80gig SE Hard drive w/ 8 meg cache $75 radeon 9800 pro $305 same case $55 liteon cdrw 52x $35 fresh from newegg with an intel system for 896. It's $50 more, but still inside your price range. However, this one did not have the audigy 2 sound card, but it can be added for $68
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10-30-2003, 08:17 AM
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Wow, wwd creates yet another masterpiece, despite being crippled for life by a wayward car (just kidding man, that wreck stunk). The 2.8C, Geil DDR, Asus board and 9800 Pro will all play very nice together for a gaming box.
One thing, what about an OS? I knew I was forgetting something before, you need the software to run all that great hardware, and I haven't seen it included in the lists lately. It will set you back another $100 if you get XP Pro. |
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10-30-2003, 08:18 AM
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Well....intel or AMD? Thats my big decision. I don't know which to pick. I have never had an AMD, just 2 Intels...I don't know if I wanna make a move, and try AMD, or stick with the Intel P4's....?
Oh, and if I were to get one of those last specs, I would have to narrow the price down a bit, kinda close to the 800-850 grand total. And I think I already have XP Home somewhere around here.. |
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10-30-2003, 08:24 AM
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If all else fails, flip a coin. They really are very similar, don't worry about it. Since you're going high end at the moment, I think the Intel 2.6C is a good buy. Last night newegg had a deal where it was cheaper than a 2.4! But I'm biased toward Intel, so don't take my word for it.
Good that you have XP Home. Does anyone know if the license can jump machines, just as long as it is only working on one of them? Otherwise, you'll probably have to buy another license, which isn't a big deal. |
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10-30-2003, 08:35 AM
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Alright cool thanks. Well if I go with the 2.6 I am going to have to lower some of the other stuff. Like just a ATi 9600 Pro 128, instead of Sapphire, and all that. I would just havew to knock off some mula!
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10-30-2003, 11:58 AM
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http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...threadid=78827
I like the idea of this system. However, a change in the mobo...to the ASUS like people were saying. Also some other changes. I think I like the idea of being able to over clock in the future
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10-30-2003, 05:37 PM
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I went all through newegg again with the replys I had recivied in this thread, and came up with THIS system... Again, if I may ask, is there anything that I am missing, to where I will NOT be able to have everything working once built? To me, everything sounds, and looks as if though it is if not the best, not far from the best. Good system? Oh, and oes it look as if though everything I got here has got a warrenty, if not, which piece doesn't?
Intel Pentium 4 / 2.6CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB – RETAIL - $175.00 ASUS Micro ATX Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Processors, 800Mhz FSB Model# P4P800-VM Retail - $101.00 GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 Value 400MHz Ultra- CAS 2.5, 2T Command With Extreme Performance Heat SpreaderGL5123200B Value. DDR400, CAS 2.5, 184 Pin Dimm, High Quality 6 Layer PCB OEM - Lifetime Warranty. High Performance at Affortable Price!!! - $88.00 VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ – OEM - $45.00 US Robotics 2977 56K V.90 Internal PCI Modem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) – OEM - $37.00 WD WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 80GB 7200RPM EIDE HARD DRIVE - $73.50 Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM - $34.99 MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99 Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W - $55.00 Sapphire Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO ULTIMATE 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV BOX - $188.00 ------------------------------------- Total: $804.48 (without shipping) Shipping: $20.00 Grand Total: $821.47 Last edited by JayBee; 10-30-2003 at 05:39 PM. |
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10-30-2003, 06:51 PM
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nice specs but im sure you could dig up a floppy somewhere in ytour old computers or ask a friend for one itll save you 10 bucks but the other stuff is nice
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10-30-2003, 06:52 PM
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10-30-2003, 06:54 PM
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Ahh, the floppy ($10) can be spared. But, everything looks good? To me that system looks better than the AMD...but that could be just me...anyone elses thoughts on that system?
Oh, and the stuff there.....is it able to be OC'ed? Not that I have ever OC'ed, but would probably try if I were to get this pc. |
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10-30-2003, 09:47 PM
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Any more responses? Usually this place is awesome with their quick replys, and answers...
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10-30-2003, 09:48 PM
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If you want to save money forget about Intel.
there is +/- to both, but AMD will save you money OK now that that is over you need to look for a Socket-A motherboard. I can't stress enough on the MSI K7N2-DELTA series mobo's I love them (I have built 7 of them) Then you want a CPU I like the Athalon XP 2500+ good bang for the buck. this mobo has dual channel so buy your DDR in pairs if you want to take advantage of this. P.S. PNY mem. dont like this board , use Kingston in my machine I use 2-1Gig sticks of 2700 that may be spendy but you can get 2-256 sticks cheap to start with. the hard drive if your new go with Maxtor I like them , 8mb. buffer if you can video card I like the GeForce FX 5600 256mb AGP card sky's the limit splurge here sound card I like the Creative sound blaster 5.1 CD rom, Floppy, Motem GOOD Power supply 300w. Min. (Antec) the bigger the case the better down the road , you'll wish you had the extra room for all the extra crap you will want Remember "The Golden Rule" Keep your pecker clocked hot and your CPU/GPU clocked cool MP has spoken |
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10-30-2003, 09:56 PM
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Any more responses? Usually this place is awesome with their quick replys, and answers...
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