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10-30-2003, 09:59 PM
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Well I don't know. Right now that system I named off is good. I am probably able to get that money. Plus, I have had only intel, which I have now. However I have never built a pc. I just don't know if I want to make a change to AMD, or stick with Intel which I have been with in the past...
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10-30-2003, 10:01 PM
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They have givin you alot of great choices. Choose what you would like to "put" together, and post them up. That way they will say swith your GeForce card with an ATi
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10-30-2003, 10:04 PM
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Alright, I think my final is the last Intel system I posted. Reply to any changes there. Try not to add on too much more price. Right where it is, is about as far as I can go. maybe be able to hit the $850 "total" mark.
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10-30-2003, 10:06 PM
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Build Your Own
Go here to find out on how to build a pc. I find it to be awesome. Not saying that PCMech's is bad but it great for ppl like you/me.
Swithing to Intel 2 AMD isn't difficult at all. All you have to do is realize that AMD is better (please don't start....you all know what I mean)
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10-30-2003, 10:09 PM
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Well what is ACUTALLY better, and more popular in the computer world today? I game a lot, and I also surf the net a lot. Some grafix work also. If it is amd, if someone could please give me some specs that would be basically the exact same thing as that Intel, but in a AMD format.
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10-30-2003, 10:09 PM
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If you want to save money in the system i did swap the
SATA drive for a normal ATA drive make sure to go for a 8mb buffer also go without a floppy or get one of a friend for free go wihout the dvd drive or get a 48x/24x/48x/16x Liteon and a cheaper graphics card |
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10-30-2003, 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by EvErY_DaY
you get experience and nothing beats that when you build your own go to www.ncix.com you can costomize it your self but then you can ask them to no assemble it and you get 50 dollers of the price tag so its a good deal It's $25 off the price tag. Originally posted by cdnref BTW-It's cheaper if you shop around some more. I getting my things for about 70 dollars less. 70 dollar is alot making min. wage SORRY EVERYDAY....It's 50 I must have read it wrong. Once again sorry |
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10-30-2003, 10:31 PM
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10-31-2003, 01:20 AM
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AMD ATHLON XP 2800 "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL $144.00 GEIL 512MB PC-2700 (333MHz) DDR RAM $79.50 VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ – OEM - $45.00 US Robotics 2977 56K V.90 Internal PCI Modem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) – OEM - $37.00 WD WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 80GB 7200RPM EIDE HARD DRIVE - $73.50 Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM - $34.99 MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99 Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W - $55.00 Fortron FSP350-60PN 350W ATX12V Power Supply with 120mm Fan, P4 and AMD ready - Retail $36.00 Sapphire Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO ULTIMATE 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV BOX - $188.00  Cricket
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10-31-2003, 02:37 PM
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Buy from the ATI.com Site! http://buy.ati.com/shopati/find.asp?...=2&country=USA I think people who buy XT models get A Free copy of HL-2 Something that would make a great Christmas Present for your Gaming Rig! Sorry its seems Sold Out for The Time! |
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10-31-2003, 02:43 PM
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Thanks Crick for takin the time to get those specs. Looks like the AMD comes out to a "grand total" that is cheaper than the Intel. Are all of the AMD things, about as equal, or better than the Intels, and what does a AMD 2800+ = to in ghz?
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10-31-2003, 09:06 PM
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I was following your online forum correspondance on building your pc and my question here is, as of this period, were you able to actually assemble your pc? were you able to achieve fulfillment in building your own gaming machine? was it easy or it took some "blood & sweat" in coming up w/ your project. i took interest in your pc building forum coz i also plan assembling my gaming pc machine and maybe i can consult you as my expert adviser on this matter
More power to your endeavor.
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10-31-2003, 10:29 PM
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No, I acutally have not even started, nor do I have the parts. I am at the stage to where I am trying to figure out what I can get (that is top quality, or close to it)...for a cheap price (not too cheap, but cheap as I can get). Good Luck, with ur pc building also
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11-01-2003, 10:04 AM
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cricket recommended the 2800 barton and im not making cricket look bad its a good processor (i wub you cricket you are much help) but you can OC a 2500 with no problem. And in my opinion OC'ing isnt as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, all you need to do is make sure you dont get trigger happy with the multiplier. steadily up the speeds maybe once every 2 weeks if it is stable. you can get the 2500+ 1.83ghz for $90 and OC it to 2.0ghz no prob. i have that same motherboard and its wicked easy to overclock on. the BIOS are very detailed. i just built my first system and i OC'd my 3000+ to 2300mhz instead of 2160mhz and it runs perfectly. and if i go to high my motherboard wont let it boot so you wont ruin anything.
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11-01-2003, 10:08 AM
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11-01-2003, 10:17 AM
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man your comparing american prices to canadian prices
i live in canada so thats a good store if you look the new egg prices that are in america if you go threw shipping and border costs and taxes new eggs prices take you way up their So for canadians its a better buy for you its a worse buy but the prices on ncix are better then new eggs |
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11-01-2003, 10:33 AM
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I think I like the 2800+, or the 2.6cghz intel the best so far. Those will most likely be my to choices.
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11-01-2003, 11:29 AM
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11-01-2003, 02:02 PM
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11-01-2003, 06:18 PM
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Alright, I think I finaily got the specs from each brand of system that I am interested in. The thing I ask now is....which one of "these" systems do u guys prefer (for the price, AND performance, etc.). Also, after u have chosen which one, if u could please tell me if I will need anything else added on, for example: (fans, power supplys, cables, etc.). I know about an operating system (I think I already got one laying around somewhere here). After that, if there is anything else u would like to add, go ahead! Thanks for all the help guys (not that I am done yet :P)
Intel System Intel Pentium 4 / 2.6CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB – RETAIL - $175.00 ASUS Micro ATX Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Processors, 800Mhz FSB Model# P4P800-VM Retail - $101.00 GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 Value 400MHz Ultra- CAS 2.5, 2T Command With Extreme Performance Heat SpreaderGL5123200B Value. DDR400, CAS 2.5, 184 Pin Dimm, High Quality 6 Layer PCB OEM - Lifetime Warranty. High Performance at Affortable Price!!! - $88.00 VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ – OEM - $45.00 US Robotics 2977 56K V.90 Internal PCI Modem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) – OEM - $37.00 WD WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 80GB 7200RPM EIDE HARD DRIVE - $73.50 or MAXTOR 80GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE MODEL # 6Y080M0 - OEM - $90.00 Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM -$34.99 MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99 Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W - $55.00 Sapphire Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO ULTIMATE 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV BOX - $188.00 ------------------------------------- Total: $818.48 (without shipping) Total: $908.48 (without shipping, and with the WD ATA HD) Shipping: $20.00 Grand Total: $838.48 (with the WD ATA HD) Grand Total: $928.48 (with the MAXTOR SATA HD) AMD System Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Retail - $87.00 AMD ATHLON XP 2800 "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL - $144.00 GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 Value 400MHz Ultra- CAS 2.5, 2T Command With Extreme Performance Heat SpreaderGL5123200B - $87.00 VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ – OEM - $45.00 US Robotics 2977 56K V.90 Internal PCI Modem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) – OEM - $37.00 WD WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 80GB 7200RPM EIDE HARD DRIVE - $73.50 or MAXTOR 80GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE MODEL # 6Y080M0 - OEM - $90.00 Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM -$34.99 MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99 Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W - $55.00 Fortron FSP350-60PN 350W ATX12V Power Supply with 120mm Fan, P4 and AMD ready - Retail $36.00 Sapphire Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO ULTIMATE 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV BOX - $188.00 ------------------------------------ Total: $794.48 (without shipping, and with the WD ATA HD) Total: $810.98 (without shipping, and with the SATA MAXTOR HD) Shipping: $20.00 Grand Total: $814.48 (with the WD ATA HD) Grand Total: $830.98 (with the SATA MAXTOR HD) EDIT: Ok, I put a SATA MAXTOR HD on there, it is either the MAXTOR, or WD...which one is best, for the price too? Also, are the "OEM" products good? What does the "OEM" mean? Last edited by JayBee; 11-01-2003 at 09:43 PM. |
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11-01-2003, 07:07 PM
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good setup but the 2500+ barton is really cheap for what it is and you wont loose that much performance but the 2800+ isn't that xpensive either
and try and find a sata hd its much better then the regular ide ata/100--ata/133 |
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11-01-2003, 07:32 PM
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Whats the difference between the ATA, and SATA? Plus, I found a SATA, but it is a whole $20.00 more than the ATA...
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11-01-2003, 07:36 PM
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sata tranfers up to 150/s and is the interface all the drives are going to be switched over if you put them on 0 raid they run faster then the speed of light
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11-01-2003, 07:54 PM
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Edited, my specs, and I have some new questions there. If I could get some answers that would be great, as always
. P.S - All of that is on my "above (last) post" in this thread (the LONG one  ).
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11-01-2003, 08:02 PM
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ok for your intel setup thecpu looks nice
ok for that mobo i would try and find a normel atx with more feature for about 20 dollers difference because that all they are now. Micro atx is fine but a normel atx is even better For ram i would go with corsair or kingston and get a 3500pc stick its about 10 dollers more(512mb) As i said before try and get a sata h/d Western Digital evrything else cant complain Video card 9600 pro is very good for the money Amd setup That mobo is suppost to be great so thats nice To safe a few bucks i would got with 2500+ barton but 2800 is fine although for 60 dollers more there isn't a big performance jump Everything else is perfect nice setups you got their now to build them THE EASY PART |
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11-01-2003, 09:38 PM
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Oh, and if I only have a CDRW drive, is that ok? Meaning, can I use it for just regular use...(CD-ROM)..., AND burning CD's?
And, what is "OEM", and what does it mean? Last edited by JayBee; 11-01-2003 at 09:49 PM. |
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11-01-2003, 11:05 PM
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lol...poor EvErY_DaY, he is the only one answering my questions now
Thx man. And to anyone else who answers me.
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OEM parts are meant to be sold to and install by system integrators (like DELL, Gateway and your neighborhood computer shop) but are sold to the general public with the understanding that there is no warranty from the manufacturer, only a short 30 to 90 day warranty from the vendor you got the parts from. There is no tech support from the manufacturer either...you are your own tech support. OEM parts are exactly the same as their retail counterparts, they just don't come in a fancy box and don't come with extra's like game demos and cables. Cricket
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11-02-2003, 10:04 AM
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and most of the time the manual isn't as good i found from oem parts and as cricket said those types of drives will allow you to write and read cd's
However you pay somewhat less for oem parts because of the set backs but if you know what your doing or involved with a site like this which you are you can ask some of the best techs around what a problem is |
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11-02-2003, 11:16 AM
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from wut i see it would be easier to change to an amd system...dont have to change anything...
but im biulding an intel myself wutever suits you best
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