Gaming/Fx PC

[JayBee]

Alright here are some specs for the 2500+ Barton system:

AMD 2500+ System

AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL - $91.00

Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe Retail - $116.99

MAXTOR 80GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE MODEL # 6Y080M0 - OEM - $90.00

CORSAIR 512MB PC3200 VALUE SELECT. VS512MB400 DDR RAM – OEM - $90.15

Sapphire Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO ULTIMATE 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV BOX - $188.00

Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W - $55.00

Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM -$34.99

US Robotics 2977 56K V.90 Internal PCI Modem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) - OEM $38.00

MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99


Total: $711.12 (without shipping)

Shipping: $20.00

Grand Total: $731.12

Alright, this grand total came out pretty cheap, looks as if though I have some money to waste (not really waste...but u know). So, let me know what I should upgrade, or make better of those parts. Also, if someone could check through all that and make sure it is all good (in every possible way: price, performance, reliability, warrentys, compatability, OC'ing options...etc), and also the prices, and make sure it all adds up to what I got (just for another answer to comfirm). I live in Michigan...(in case u wanted to figure out the shipping also....).

Oh, and also does that mobo come with on-board sound? If so, I am gettin rid of the sound card, meaning I have more money to spend.

[Computec]

Ill check it out for you tonight jaybee on my way to a computer show be back in 5 hours

[Undead_Rider]

Originally posted by JayBee Alright here are some specs for the 2500+ Barton system: AMD 2500+ System AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL - $91.00

This particular board is a great deal and can o/c to 2.2ghz which is nice so you dont have to pay a lot extra for a 3200+ cpu

Originally posted by JayBee Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400Mhz) Retail - $87.00

I have a systme with this board and it is great works fine i haven't oced it yet so i cant tell you anything about that and for the price its un beatable
I bought a sound card so i dont know if its good onboard sound but i have heard its one of the best so you can try it out and if it ain't any good go and buy a 50 doller sound card

Originally posted by JayBee MAXTOR 80GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE MODEL # 6Y080M0 - OEM - $90.00

Good choice
maxtor is the best brand and sata can move data up to 150mb/s and you dont have to pay big bucks

Originally posted by JayBee CORSAIR 512MB PC3200 VALUE SELECT. VS512MB400 DDR RAM – OEM - $90.15

Corair is one of the best o/cing brands of ram but if you arn't planning to o/c kingston is 20 dollers cheaper for the same stick but not as good o/cing

Originally posted by JayBee Sapphire Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO ULTIMATE 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV BOX - $188.00

I love this card its amazing for gaming and i have never had a problem

Originally posted by JayBee Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W - $55.00

Never seen or heard about this case

Originally posted by JayBee Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - PCI OEM - $68.00

This is a good sound card but if you have some extra bucks audio 2 plantinum is one if not the best card for 130 dollers

Originally posted by JayBee Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM -$34.99

Good brand and reliable

Originally posted by JayBee US Robotics 2976 56K V.90 Data, Fax, Voice Modem – OEM - $38.00

Dont know

Originally posted by JayBee MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99

Any floppy's good really u might be able to find one in the basement somewhere to save 10 bucks

Total: $749.13 (without shipping)

Shipping: $20.00

Grand Total: $769.00

Alright, this grand total came out pretty cheap, looks as if though I have some money to waste (not really waste...but u know). So, let me know what I should upgrade, or make better of those parts. Also, if someone could check through all that and make sure it is all good (in every possible way: price, performance, reliability, warrentys, compatability, OC'ing options...etc), and also the prices, and make sure it all adds up to what I got (just for another answer to comfirm). I live in Michigan...(in case u wanted to figure out the shipping also....).[/QUOTE]

If you have some extra cash i would get 9600xt raidon and a audio 2 platinum card BESIDES THAT AWSUME

[JayBee]

Well, I maybe plan to OC later on. But right now no, I don't know how to OC either. So should I still go with the Corsair or....? Also, if the mobo has the best on-board sound, then I would cancel the sound card.

[Undead_Rider]

I dont know threw experience jaybee but a lot of people said the onboard sound is really good.
But if you arn't on a super duber tight budget and you plan to o/c later corair is the way to go but if 20 dollers is a lot for your kingston is a better buy and has the same stuff but when it comes to o/cing dont try it unless you have higher levels of ram which would make kingston still under clock its self

[JayBee]

EDITED: I changed the mobo to the "Deluxe"..is that a good change, and if everything still compatible? I also dropped the sound card as the mobo has good on board sound. Good changes?

And also, is that case with the 350w Power Supply that I have speced good for what I have (meaning is it enough to power the stuff I have speced)?

Better question....: Is EVERYTHING I have there compatible with eachother, will everything work, and is everything worth the buy? Serious well thought answers ONLY please..

[Undead_Rider]

Originally posted by JayBee EDITED: I changed the mobo to the "Deluxe"..is that a good change, and if everything still compatible?

Everything here is compatable yes and the new mobo has great onboard sound that sound card on the mobo is very good.
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm

Originally posted by JayBee [B] [B]

350W will be enough for your parts but after 300w the amount of watts doesn't really afect anything but the quality does 300w quality systme ould support the best systme available and a 550w bad bran and quality would blow a part

Originally posted by JayBee

Everything is still compatable the dlx is also a good mobo and you will have no problems with it

Ps- a lot of people say they have problems installing the o/s but it is one of the easiest boards to install the o/s on and they blame their mistakes on the board
Great board

[Cricket]

Originally posted by JayBee Oh, and also does that mobo come with on-board sound? If so, I am gettin rid of the sound card, meaning I have more money to spend.

Yes, that motherboard has on-board sound that is actually pretty good. Try it first and if you feel you want something more, get the SB Audigy.

Originally posted by JayBee EDITED: I changed the mobo to the "Deluxe"..is that a good change, and if everything still compatible? I also dropped the sound card as the mobo has good on board sound. Good changes?

The Deluxe just has a few more features on it...the basic performance will be the same as the non-Deluxe. If you need those features, go with the Deluxe.

Originally posted by JayBee And also, is that case with the 350w Power Supply that I have speced good for what I have (meaning is it enough to power the stuff I have speced)?

350 watts is generally more than enough power for most systems, but it's the quality of the power supply that's more important. Do you know what brand that power supply is?

Originally posted by JayBee Better question....: Is EVERYTHING I have there compatible with eachother, will everything work, and is everything worth the buy? Serious well thought answers ONLY please..

Yes, those parts will work together fine. The USR 2976 is a very good PCI modem...do you need the voice feature? If not, get the 2977. And find out what brand that power supply is.

Nice specs by the way, will build into a very nice gamer.

Cricket

[tomster2300]

I have the a7n8x-x mobo and my neighbor has the deluxe. They're both great boards, the deluxe is just a little better (more usb ports etc.) My onboard sound is rock solid, though I've had it skip a few times in battlefield 1942--but I can count on one hand the number of times its done that and it only seems to be with that specific game. Two thumbs up to this board, it's one of the best.

Forgot to mention I do not have a sound card, I use the onboard sound exclusively.

[JayBee]

EDITED: I changed the US modem to the one that Cricket specified (without voice). I also checked up on the power supply brand...I couldn't find it. Is that Aspire X-Dreamer case that I have specified a good case, or would someone else recommend something better for about the same price? (I want a side window, and silver, or black.)

[Joeberg]

Originally posted by Cricket 350 watts is generally more than enough power for most systems, but it's the quality of the power supply that's more important. Cricket

The PSU that comes witht the X Dreamer Cases are Tubo Links (Rebadged Deers)...

I'd reccomend swapping it for an Enlight, Antec, Enermax, Sparkle, or Aopen PSU. The ones that come with the case your purchasing come from a manufacturer who make PSU's that tend to die out prematurely, take a part out with them when they die, and not give the most power as thier supposed to...

The case is great (Depends on your taste, but quality (other than the PSU) and looks wise it a great case)....

[Undead_Rider]

This case is a good quality 350w power supply.
I dont know if it is your case.
If it is stick with it.
if it ain't go with this one
98$$ canadian aroun 60 american
turbo case x-Dreamer II Black 350w P4 with temp controle

[JayBee]

Ok, well what is a all-around good case that is around $50-60, black OR silver, and has a side window..?

[Joeberg]

This one comes with a Good PSU, nice looking, and a side window:

Enermax X- Point CS-5281BR (Black & Red) Mid ATX Tower Case with Enermax 300W PS and Side widow.
Specifications:
Material: Steel (SGCC0.7mm).
Drive Bays: 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" Internal 4 x 3.5".
Expansion Slots: 7.
Power EG301P-VB (300W) ATX +12V Ver. 1.2 Compatible.
Approx. Dimensions: 18.9" (L) x 7.9" (W) x 17" (H).

This is from newegg.com

[Cricket]

Originally posted by JayBee Ok, well what is a all-around good case that is around $50-60, black OR silver, and has a side window..?

If you really like that case you should get it, remove the low quality power supply and install a good quality one. You can get good Fortron Source 350 watt PSU's for $36 at Newegg...it's worlds better than a TurboLink PSU.

Cricket

[JayBee]

Enermax X- Point CS-5281S (Silver) Mid ATX Tower Case with Enermax 300W PS and LargeSide widow - $58.00

-OR-

Enermax CS-3051L-B3A (Black) Mid ATX Tower Case Aluminum/Plastic Front Panel w/ Acrylic Cover & Enermax Logo on side Window, Sound Sensitive Neon Light - Retail - $57.00 (Does it have PSU?)

Which one do u guys think is better, and like better? I personally think they are both real cool looking, I just don't know which is better...tryin to get some opinion. Or what is a good case that is silver -or- black/side window...and nice looking?

[JayBee]

Anyone?

[Undead_Rider]

Originally posted by JayBee Enermax X- Point CS-5281S (Silver) Mid ATX Tower Case with Enermax 300W PS and LargeSide widow - $58.00 -OR- Enermax CS-3051L-B3A (Black) Mid ATX Tower Case Aluminum/Plastic Front Panel w/ Acrylic Cover & Enermax Logo on side Window, Sound Sensitive Neon Light - Retail - $57.00 (Does it have PSU?)

I have not researched these 2 cases and since they are with in a doller of one an other they both should be pretty much the same

[Joeberg]

The second one you listed comes with a power supply; but I've never heard of the brand (PowerUP). The first comes with an Enermax PSU...

[Cricket]

Get the CS-3051L-B3A since it comes with an Enermax power supply. The other case comes with a PowerUp which is basically a cheap generic PSU.

Cricket

[JayBee]

You meant the "CS-5281S" right Cricket? Seeing that the CS-3051L has a PowerUp PSU, and the CS-5281S has a Enermax PSU...

[Cricket]

Originally posted by JayBee You meant the "CS-5281S" right Cricket? Seeing that the CS-3051L has a PowerUp PSU, and the CS-5281S has a Enermax PSU...

Oops...sorry about that...was looking at the wrong picture. Yeah, get the CS-5281S.

Cricket

[JayBee]

Actually I don't know what to do about the case. Should I just buy one with a crappy PSU, and then buy a PSU, and install it myself? Or should I get a case equipt with a PSU (if so, which one..?).

[Cricket]

Get a Antec case. They all come with Antec power supplies.

Or try to find a case you like that comes with no power supply and buy a good power supply separately.

Cricket

[kevinq]

if u liek the X-dreamer case then et that and spend the 40 bucks on a good quality power supply...ur saving with not getting the sound card...so it would even out....whichever one u liek better and will be more happier woth in the end...i liek the X-dreamer case more (opiniun)

[JayBee]

Hmmm....I dunno. I really sorta liked that X-Dreamer...but the PSU isn't good. Is there anythign I could do to get that case, and better the PSU (easy ways?)

[Undead_Rider]

Just ge a case with out a psu and install it your self(it isn't that hard)
The turbo Gamer x-sonic 17 inch black aluminum is great 55 bucks comes with a window but no psu perfect for you

[JayBee]

ENERMAX EG365P-VE(FC). 350W Power supply (with Copper Shielding for better EMI reduction) for AMD K7 & Pentium4. Fan on/off controlled by M/B ~ Real "Sleeping Mode" support. Meet ATX 2.03 & ATX +12V 1.2 Version. Dual cooling fan design : 9cm fan intake heat, 8cm exhaust hot air. Gold-coated terminals for high performance and faint resistance improvement. Fan speed monitoring by M/B - Ball bearing fan with Thermal Control function. Cable Tube Tied for neatness. Elegant gold-coated fan guards. Retail box. - $49.99

Good PSU? To go in the X-Dreamer case that I spec'ed out to better the PSU?

[JayBee]

Or...who makes the Turbo gamer case? I will look that up

[Aaaron]

The Enlight 7250, 7255 series are nice and simple and come with a 360w PSU and removable motherboard tray

7250




7255



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