|
|||||||
 |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Rating: 
|
Display Modes |
11-03-2003, 08:07 PM
|
#151 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
I like the cases with windows. Whos makes the Turbo Gamer case?
|
|
|
|
11-03-2003, 08:10 PM
|
#152 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Canada ontario
Posts: 342
|
Those are some good cases and no one really needs a nice looking case.
All you need is for it to fit your hardware. But i believe JayBee wanted one with a window |
|
|
|
|
11-03-2003, 08:12 PM
|
#153 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Canada ontario
Posts: 342
|
Correct me if im wrong but i believe Turbo Gamer is actually the manufacteror as well as the name not certain ill try and get a manufacteror link for ya
|
|
|
|
|
11-03-2003, 08:19 PM
|
#154 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Alright, thx
|
|
|
|
|
11-03-2003, 08:22 PM
|
#155 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Yeah I saw it, you were right it is made by Turbo Gamer. However, I still like the X-Dreamer the best...what would be my best bet to better the PSU in that case? Which PSU should I buy seperatly to go in that case?
|
|
|
|
|
11-03-2003, 08:30 PM
|
#156 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Canada ontario
Posts: 342
|
For some od reason cant find their website but here are a lot of nice looking cases all with in 40-100 american(but prices are in candian dollers)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=9012 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=10466 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=8033 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=10193 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=10195 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=8814 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=10143 |
|
|
|
|
11-03-2003, 08:32 PM
|
#157 | |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Canada ontario
Posts: 342
|
Quote:
Make sure you steer away from lower quality like Deer and such. Remember Watts dont kill parts Crap Watts kill parts |
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 07:45 AM
|
#158 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
What about Vantec? They any good?
Well....actually whats a good PSU brand? I looked at those thermaltakes and no AMD supported ones. I don't think I would need a quality 400+ watt PSU....or maybe I do? Last edited by JayBee; 11-04-2003 at 07:47 AM. |
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 07:55 AM
|
#159 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Oh, and would it be easy to install my own bought PSU into a case that already has a PSU? Because I want the X-Dreamer case (already has crapy PSU)...and I wanna make that better by adding my own..would that be a problem?...and what is a good PSU to go in that case? I don't think I need a 400+ watt PSU to power what I got for specs...or do I?
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 09:08 AM
|
#160 | ||||||
|
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
 Cricket
|
||||||
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 09:21 AM
|
#161 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: "Boondocks", KY
Posts: 184
|
If you really like the case, get it, then just replace the PSU like you've been thinking. It really is as simple as Cricket has written, four screws and maybe a coverplate.
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 11:52 AM
|
#162 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Alright cool, thanks again Cricket
.
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 04:01 PM
|
#163 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Antec 380W Power Supply TRUE380 ATX Form Factor, ATX12V compliant for Pentium 4 (backward compatible with previous Pentium versions) and AMD systems
+5V Stand-By & Logic On/Off Antec Low Noise Technology Maximum Power 380W Weight 5 lbs. Dimensions - L5.9" x W5.5" x H3.4" UL, CSA, TUV, CB, CE, NEMKO Approved - $65.00 Is this a good power supply, and is it good for the specs I am interested in, as well as the X-Dreamer case (to replace the stock PSU..)? Or should I be looking at something else? |
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 04:23 PM
|
#164 |
|
D'oh!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,359
 |
Its a good PSU, however if you'd like to save some money, this one would work fine:
Antec P4 ATX12V 350 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans - Retail SL350 is a 350 Watt 6-output,dual fan-cooled ATX (Baby AT or PS/2 Size) power supply designed for personal computer or industrial applications using the most recent processing technology requires +3.3V output, +5V AC-On Standby and Logic On/Off control. Specifications: ATX12V Form Factor ATX 2.03 compliant L5.9" x W5.5" x H3.4" +5V Stand-By & Logic On/Off Smart Fan Feature (Thermal Controlled Variable Speed Fan Dual Cooling Fans Its 43 dollars... at newwgg.com |
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 04:30 PM
|
#165 | |
|
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
|
Quote:
Cricket
|
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 04:36 PM
|
#166 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Fortron FSP350-60PN Aurora Series 350W ATX12V Power Supply with 120mm LED Fan, P4 and AMD ready - Retail - $55.00
Antec P4 ATX12V 350 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans - and Blue Internal LEDs Retail - $50.00 Which of these two PSU's in the better all around PSU? Don't worry about price difference. Just which is better for the money? Also....shoot! Forgot what I was gonna ask, I will post when I remember 
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 04:50 PM
|
#167 | |
|
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
|
Quote:
Personally, I would get this one: Fortron FSP350-60PN 350W ATX12V Power Supply with 120mm Fan, P4 and AMD ready - Retail $35. It's basically the same as the one you mention, but $20 less. It just doesn't have the fan speed control dial. I don't go for fluff...I go for substance. Cricket
Last edited by Cricket; 11-04-2003 at 04:53 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 06:16 PM
|
#168 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Alright here are some specs for the 2500+ Barton system:
AMD 2500+ System AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL - $91.00 Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe Retail - $116.99 MAXTOR 80GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE MODEL # 6Y080M0 - OEM - $90.00 CORSAIR 512MB PC3200 VALUE SELECT. VS512MB400 DDR RAM – OEM - $90.15 Sapphire Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO ULTIMATE 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV BOX - $188.00 Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W - $55.00 Antec P4 ATX12V 350 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans - and Blue Internal LEDs Retail - $50.00 Lite On 52x32x52 Black Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S – OEM -$34.99 US Robotics 2977 56K V.90 Internal PCI Modem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) - OEM $38.00 MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH – OEM - $6.99 Total: $766.12 (without shipping) Shipping: $20.00 Grand Total: $786.12 I added the Antec PSU to these specs. I think I am happy with all of this now. Just gotta wait till the time I am allowed to order  .What do u guys think would be a better case color? Which looks better with neons and such...black/silver? Also, there may be some extra shipping charges in there. I am just calculating the amount to ship to where I am which is Michigan. Last edited by JayBee; 11-04-2003 at 08:52 PM. |
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 07:46 PM
|
#169 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
EDITED: As u can see I edited the specs with the addition of the PSU, the above message has; or should, all the info.
Note: Most of all, I just want to make absolute sure, that EVERYTHING I have spec'ed, is a good quality product, and everything I have is compatible with one-another. I would HATE to get something, and have it be of poor quality, or not fit with something, or something along those lines. Which is why I ask soooo many questions (which I am sure u guys have figured out now...). Another thing I want to make total sure of, is that I have everything needed to build, and do I need any extras as in: (fans, cables, screws..etc.). I have a moniter, mouse, keyboard, ("think" I have a windows XP sitting somewhere...). Last edited by JayBee; 11-04-2003 at 09:04 PM. |
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 08:43 PM
|
#170 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Hmm...specs look good now? Also, what is a better case color (I know, it depends on what "I" personaly think on it)..but I am just wondering what other people like, and what looks better with neons, and all that? I personally like BOTH silver, and black, which is why I am having difficulties deciding.
Last edited by JayBee; 11-04-2003 at 08:55 PM. |
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 08:52 PM
|
#171 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
I was also wondering if I should keep the CDRW drive that I have spec'ed out, and use it for CDRW as well as CDROM, or get a combo - CDROM/CDRW/DVD drive?
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 09:36 PM
|
#172 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: CFB Greenwood, NS
Posts: 392
 |
The CD/RW is also your CD-ROM. Personally I would go for a black or a silver case or a combination of both
 For your modem....you don't have DSL/Cable? Is all you have is 56k or will you use it for faxing. The case will be awesome with a blue cold light. And if you want to go even more...get a UV light and some uv round cables. That would be awesome  Thats all I got for now. ***EDIT*** Extras....screws. They should come with the case...if you need exrtas just go to your local pc shop/radio shack and they'll will have some. Cables...naw. If everything POST fine, then you won't need an extra stick of Mem. Last edited by cdnref; 11-04-2003 at 09:40 PM. |
|
|
|
|
11-04-2003, 10:28 PM
|
#173 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
I have cable internet...? Does that have an affect on that modem...? Or do I need something else? What COLOR case...black or silver? As I said, I like em both, which is why I want some more opinion...
|
|
|
|
|
11-05-2003, 04:55 AM
|
#174 |
|
D'oh!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,359
|
I prefer the black one, but its your decision that counts
If you have cable internet, then I presume you already have a cable modem. Are you purchasing the 56k modem for faxes? |
|
|
|
|
11-05-2003, 08:14 AM
|
#175 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
No...I "thought" I needed it. I have cable at home, but during the summer I go to my summer home which has 56k internet. So would I need that modem...or?
|
|
|
|
|
11-05-2003, 09:05 AM
|
#176 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
I read some reviews on the A7N8X mobo, and most of all it was good. However, some people were saying different memory has problems with it... which would be the best brand/memory to buy for this mobo?
Also, is the 2500+, or the 2800+ faster (and better all around cpu?)....I am NOT a overclocker...never done it before, and don't know how. So if the 2800+ is faster and better, then that would be my better buy. Also, "if" I decided I wanted to overclock..is this cpu a good one to overclock? and what memory goes good with that mobo as well as a 2800+. If someone could post the best system (within my range) of a 2500+, and a 2800+ that would be great. Just post the memory, mobo, and cpu. I already got the rest of the stuff I am interested in (as long as it is all compadible - the stuff that is in my other specs.) I am just interested in the "main" parts. Also, I am really sorry for all the posts, questions, concerns, specs..etc. I am posting. I am a n00b at building computers (never done it before), and before I order (or begin), I want to know what the the best parts (within my budget) I can get, that are all compatible. I got the case/HD/Modem/CDRW/Vid card speced. I am just concerned with the main stuff i.e mobo/cpu/ram (what works best with each). Plus, I keep reading reviews and stuff about parts and such, and I see some bad, and some good.....so my mind keeps fluxuating. Last edited by JayBee; 11-05-2003 at 09:18 AM. |
|
|
|
|
11-05-2003, 10:13 AM
|
#177 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: "Boondocks", KY
Posts: 184
|
A "modem" as we've been using it has been a 56k modem, a card that your PC uses to send data over a phone line. If you are bringing your computer to your summerhome, and you wish to access the internet, you will need that card to connect your PC to your phone line.
If you were just staying at home and only using your Cable modem, then there would be little reason for it other than as a backup (which isn't that bad of an idea). Typically, cable modems have RJ45 sockets that you will connect to your ethernet port in your computer, eliminating the need for a modem. The 2800+ is faster than the 2500+, just like a 2.8GHz is faster than a 2.5GHz. Realize that those numbers don't actually correspond to the clockspeed of the CPU, but they do tell you their relative speeds. I do not know the ins and outs of AMD processors, so others will be better able to answer your question about overclocking. Finally, don't worry about asking too many questions. A PC is a major investment, and it is understandable that you want to get a good deal. As Cricket said however, you should not have to stress that it is not the best it could have been, as this market changes so quickly that you will never enjoy it. The system you have is already very impressive and quite a good buy. Unless you're willing to spend another $200 I doubt you would see any noticeable improvement. Good Luck! |
|
|
|
|
11-05-2003, 10:39 AM
|
#178 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
So then 2800+ over 2500+? Also, which memory, and mobo for a 2800+?
|
|
|
|
|
11-05-2003, 10:45 AM
|
#179 |
|
Member (1 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 1
|
JayBee don't worry about asking so many questions cos iam in the same position as you and ive learnt so much from reading your questions and other peoples answers. it is kinda daunting to start off with!
|
|
|
|
|
11-05-2003, 11:28 AM
|
#180 |
|
Member (9 bit)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 322
|
Yeah, I know...I have learned SOO much sense I have been a member of these forums. But, I just don't want people gettin tired of resonding to my posts...I have noticed that not as many people have been responding to this thread, I don't know if it is because it is soo big, or people just don't feel like answering questions.
However, back to the subject . AMD 2800+, or 2500+...which one would be a better choice, and what is a good mobo, and ram to go with it? Also, concerning the ram....2 sticks or, 1 stick? Whats better, and whats the better brand, GEIL, Crucial, Kingston, Corsair? Last edited by JayBee; 11-05-2003 at 11:54 AM. |
|
|
|
|
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
| Display Modes | Rate This Thread |
|
|
Linear Mode
