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10-28-2003, 04:54 PM
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Gaming/Fx PC
Hello people. I was wondering if I could have some help here. Ok, I have some computer experience, and was thinking about building my own pc. I hear that it is (or can be) a LOT cheaper then buying a already assembled pc. I would be interested in building a computer that is built for gaming, and graphics. So, if I may ask now; what would be a good list of parts I would need to complete this? I don't plan on spending MUCH over $800-900. If someone who has maybe built a gaming pc, or knows a lot about it could leave me a post that explains what would be the nessasary parts, and requirments that would be just great. I have never done this before, so cut me some slack, and leave me with as much info as possible.
 Thanks a lot!
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10-28-2003, 05:00 PM
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Shiro Usagi
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glc made a really good comment not long ago...it went something like "you don't build your own PC to save money, you build your own computer because you want a computer that is better than a store bought one". I heartily agree.
Do you want to build a Intel or AMD based computer? Take a look at this tutorial. Since you want a gaming computer, concentrate on getting the best video card you can that fits your budget. Cricket
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10-28-2003, 05:06 PM
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Is that $800-900 for the system only, meaning you have things like a monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc.? Like Cricket said, because it's a gaming machine you'll want the best video card you can get, even if that means sacrificing a bit in the processor area. I'd recommend an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro or 9800XT if you can afford it, but you'd be fine going with a 9700 Pro or even a 9600 Pro. I'd avoid nvidia's current FX line since they are really poor performers. As fas as a processor, you need to decide on AMD or Intel. On the Intel side, a 2.4C or 2.6C Pentium 4 processor would be a great choice and an Athlon XP 2500+ would be nice for an AMD system. $800 is kinda of cheap for an all-out gaming system, but if you're conservative and invest the money in the right places you should come out with a good system.
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10-28-2003, 05:15 PM
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Well, I don't need it to be "top-of-the-line". But I would however want it to be a good performing pc. About the AMD, or P4....what would be a better choice? If someone could give me a good list of specs, doesn't matter what. Jus things u think would fit a good performing gaming pc. Not too expensive. Then, I will just pick. As said before, I am new too this, and don't know too much about "building my OWN" pc, but I know things along the lines.
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10-28-2003, 05:46 PM
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Shiro Usagi
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Take a look at the specs in Surge1243's signature...those are great specs for a nice gaming system. To save a bit, get a 2500+ Barton CPU, skip the soundcard and use the on-board sound (which is actually pretty good) and get just 1 hard drive...will be a very nice AMD system.
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10-28-2003, 06:59 PM
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Well as for amd or Intel i would say an intel is the best processor for a gaming rig and it is known for that. However, some people will say amd is way better then intel and can make games run better but overall its inetl.
So i would go with a 2.5ghz p4 cpu=200 Intels D875PBZ motherboard that has gigabite enthernet and is cheap 135 dollers(us) as for the video card a 9600 raiden pro would do just fine-175 dollers us Get a Digifire sound cad 75 dollers Wd hard drive 8mb catch 7200 rpm 80 gigs=75$$ Lg cd rw 52x32x52x=45$$ You could find an old floppy anywhere=priceless Ram- 512 mb corsair ram 3200pc=85$$ Any enlight 50 doller case would do and the power supply should be at least 300wats(MAKE SURE IT IS A QUALity brand) i would take a 300w good quality over a 450-550 crappy quality anyday. price 60-150 This would be around 890 dollers which fits your budget but if you dont already have a moniter or mouse/keyboard and speakers you will need to change this a lot. |
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10-28-2003, 07:04 PM
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I would rather go with the 2.4 Ghz 800 Mhz front side bus p4.
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10-28-2003, 07:11 PM
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10-28-2003, 07:14 PM
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Oh ya I forgot aboot the price drop yesterday!
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10-28-2003, 07:15 PM
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Alright cool! Thanks a lot guys, what a help. Geeee...I post and in less than 2 hours I have 7 helpful replies
Thanks again! btw, any more help is always apprecieated 
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10-28-2003, 07:16 PM
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Shiro Usagi
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Isn't competition wonderful?
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10-28-2003, 08:09 PM
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I currently have a Dell Dimension 8200. It is 1.9ghz, 40 gig hd, 256 RAMBUS ram, Geforce 3 64mb. Would it be easier, and better to just update this? Or would it be more effiecient, and usefull to just build/buy a new computer?
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10-28-2003, 08:42 PM
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You'll be very limited in trying to upgrade a pre-built system (i.e your Dell). The most you'll be able to get out of it is more RAM (although rambus ram is really expensive) and a new video card. IMO it would be better to go with a new system not only for the increased performance but also to allow for better upgradeability in the future. You may try selling the Dell to make a little extra cash for the build...I know people are always looking for spare parts at the Trading Post here.
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10-28-2003, 08:43 PM
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DEPENDS
Well irst things first dell pc's are made so people dont inker with them or move any parts. If you keep the same case and mobo in the dell pc you should have no problem upgrading it(but that is really boring) because the motherboard in dell pc's is almost always cimented to the case(based on other formem members threads) so this really isn't that gopod of a way to go
Now if your looking for a nice low cost ok computer future shop and best buy have amazing prices. The reason is because they buy in bulk so they're giving you a danm good deal. However, they only really cell good 2 ghz-2.6ghz rigs for 800 dollers however there graphic cards drives and sound cards arn't the best and the mobo is normely crap but they run decent. Write now im writing this to you on a 2.4ghz celeborn crap mobo onboard sound and a 9000 pro ati raidon I got this for 400 dollers(not bad) and it works fine The best way to go is to build your own pc though you can call it your own customize it and build it to profection. AND upgrading woul be easier because you know all the parts inside(hint hint) [U] [B]2.4ghz pro, 9000 raiden pro, Onboard sound, 32x LG drive, 3.5 inch dell floppy, Hp case, 300w power supply, motherboard unknown |
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10-28-2003, 09:43 PM
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Ok cool. If someone could just list the parts needed to build a good/not TOO expensive pc, that would be great. Just things "u" would get. I just want to have an idea on what I am looking at.
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10-28-2003, 10:01 PM
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Re: DEPENDS
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10-28-2003, 10:23 PM
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Yea, excatly which makes it harder to upgrade in the future. Thats why I would like to custom build my own, or atleast custom build it online. I have found some pretty cool ones that way too....if u know any good sites where u can custom build pc's online for cheap let me know. Or a list of what I would need would also be good. Thx
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10-28-2003, 11:11 PM
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2500xp barton core $90
GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 Value 400MHz $85 A7N8X deluxe motherboard $118 WD 80gig HD w/8meg cache $75 audigy 2 soundcard $68 Aspire (Turbo Case )X-Dreamer Black ATX Mid-Tower Case w/Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-BK/350W $55 sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128mb $305 52xcdrw black for $53 Off of newegg for a before shipping price of $849 and most everything had free shipping included. They had a microstar motherboard for half the price of the a7n8x, but I would go with the a7n8x. You could also add another stick of ram for $85 and have 1gig.
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10-29-2003, 12:17 AM
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The specs on the above system are excellent.
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10-29-2003, 01:08 AM
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Great specs Werewolfdaddy.
JayBee: You could even save a few bucks by skipping the Audigy sound card and use the on-board sound (which I hear is pretty good) and by using one of the lower ATi Radeon Pro video cards (like the 9500, 9600 or 9700 Pro). But the system Werewolfdaddy spec'd out is pretty darn good. Cricket
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10-29-2003, 08:15 AM
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Thanks Crik
, for all the help. Wolf nice specs, I will really look into that! . Again, thx guys. Lots of help on these forums.
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10-29-2003, 09:20 AM
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If anyone else has any specs to post, go ahead and post em
. Wolfs are good, jus wanna see what other people think. Remember good all around quality (gaming...etc) pc, but NOT "top-of-the-line". Price Range - $800-900.
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10-29-2003, 11:28 AM
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Oh, and another question. Would it be better to custom build it on a custom computer build site? Or myself? I would like to learn how to do it, and get the expeirience building one myself. But, if it would be too hard, and take a year to complete (for a n00b pc builder)...then I don't don't know...
However, computers are a hobby of mine, just never built one before, and would like to one of these days. Also, when building your own computer do u still have all of the same warrenties that u would have buying a already assembled pc? |
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10-29-2003, 11:49 AM
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It should only take you 3-4 hours at the most. It took mr 3 hours only because I took my time and read the manuals. Hench my T-Shirt "RTFM" You can figure that out by yourself. You will be able to whip up a pc in know time. I bet HAL9000 could do it in under 3 min.
(without a cordless drill) lol.Warrenties- Usually the website will tell you of the manufactures warrenties, they just offer "tech supprt" which usually requires your pc to be shipped back. |
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10-29-2003, 01:49 PM
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And putting a computer together isn't very hard...think about it...there are less than 20 actual components inside a computer. And all you need is a #2 Philips screwdriver (and maybe a small adjustable wrench or pliers for the standoffs) to assemble the parts in to the case. The hard part is picking out the right parts so that your computer works well. Read through the PC Mech Build Your Own PC tutorial...it'll help you with the steps and procedures to assembling a computer on your own. For a first time builder, it shouldn't take more than 1 day to assemble the whole computer and install the OS...in reality, it'll probably only take a few hours (unless you run into problems). Quote:
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10-29-2003, 02:13 PM
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wow...cool. Thanks again Crick...damn...I love the amount of help, and reponse on these forums!
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10-29-2003, 02:31 PM
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Alright I have been lookin at the stats wolf gave online and stuff. To make this easier "for me"...dunno, if anyone would mind doing this. But, if someone could do up a "complete" list of what I would need to get to completely build a system. What IS actually better AMD, or Intel? Right now I have a Intel 1.9ghz in my dell. I wouldn't really wanna decrease in proccess speed.
As said before, if someone could do that for me, it would be real cool. I know the help and responses on these forums is great. Thanks! Oh, and btw, sry for sooo many posts, and questions, sry for being newbie 
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10-29-2003, 03:13 PM
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build your own
you get experience and nothing beats that when you build your own go to www.ncix.com you can costomize it your self but then you can ask them to no assemble it and you get 50 dollers of the price tag so its a good deal
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10-29-2003, 03:14 PM
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AMD and Intel are about the same. AMD now has it's new processor out while Intel is now going to incorpurate fiber optics into their CPU's. So in my opinion they're the same but if I had to choose I would go AMD (don't hit you intel guys)
Are you getting your stuff online? go to www.newegg.com and go their. Excellent choices there. Anderson
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10-29-2003, 03:16 PM
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BTW-It's cheaper if you shop around some more. I getting my things for about 70 dollars less. 70 dollar is alot making min. wage
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