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Old 11-16-2003, 06:44 PM   #1
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RAID and DVE

Ok, this is what I need to do, but I am unsure if its as straightforward as it seems. I've never delt with RAID, so its new to me.

My MB has on-board RAID, 2 IDE channels, 2 SATA Channels and separate plugins for SATA RAID.

I am currently doing some Digital Video Editing (DVE) and need to separate my internet and other PC activities from the DVE HDs. So, I purchased a WD Raptor SATA that I am going to use for everything EXCEPT DVE.

However, DVE requests/requires the IDE HDs that I will be using for DVE to be on separate IDE channels. Yet, from what I understand, RAID will see both HDs as one HD.

How Do I set this up so, that I have the:

WD Raptor on SATA non-RAID for internet and everything else
DVD-rom & DVD-Burner on primary IDE 2
and
The DVE OS HD functional and working with the A/V HD?

I am not using any Matrox, Canopus, etc capture cards.
I am using Adobe Premiere which many others use with RAID setups.

So, is this as straightforward as it seems?
Just set up a RAID with both DVE HDs, put the DVD components on primary 2 and install the WD Raptor non-RAID?

TIA

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Old 11-17-2003, 07:36 PM   #2
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Arrghh!!!! *Flaps arms and runs around in circles.*
One thing at a time.
First : What motherboard is this ?
If I can get the manual I'll tell you what it will and will not do.
If you're doing 3 different kinds of drive, SATA, IDE HDD, and Optical, the motherboard will have preferences.
Raid is not the immeadiate answer, we've got 250 GB HDD these days.
So, do we have the boot order your motherboard will accept?
Let's start there.
Specs needed for motherboard.
One more point : what is your power supply ?
You'll need a good one.


My bad. Just noted motherboard in your sig.
Gone to read and compare results from others who want to do similar stuff.
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Old 11-18-2003, 09:06 AM   #3
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Pam: Take the nicklock into consideration too - this throws another variable into the equation.

I'd be tempted to buy a huge SATA drive (like a 2500JD) and put it on the second controller for your DVE. Then I'd put both existing IDE drives on IDE1 for storage and the 2 opticals on IDE2 - and forego RAID. This is the *simple* way of doing it.
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Old 11-18-2003, 01:51 PM   #4
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Unless you enable raid for the IDE drives in the bios and install the drivers for it from the mothrboard cd what you have is a board with four IDE controllers.
Which means you can put each IDE drive on it's own controller.
No need to mess with raid.
The manual has really clear bios instructions so you should have no trouble there.
The SATA drive can be made the C drive and should be first in the boot order followed by the optical drives and you DVE drives would come last.
In fact when you're reinstalling everything I would leave them disconnected until everything else is up and running.
I found this forum that practically specializes in Asus boards for Intel :http://www.abxzone.com/index.php?
Just head over to Intel Zone/Intel chipsets

glc, I was assuming that the nicklock was to keep anyone from messing up one of the DVE drives.
Now that he's moving everything to the SATA drive he can still use it to protect the DVE drives when he's not working with them.
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Old 11-18-2003, 10:12 PM   #5
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The picture I have of the P4C800 Dlx shows 2 SATA and 2 IDE connectors - where are you getting 4 IDE controllers from?
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The picture I have shows 2 SATA and 4 IDE.
Possible mislable.
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Old 11-18-2003, 11:29 PM   #7
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two ide ports
two ide raid ports
and two serial ports

you cannot use all the porta at one time
its a eather or situtaion
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This is from the Asus site :http://www.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm
It's got the connections Naja needs.
She can have the DVE drives on seperate channels and the opticals can double on one.
The serial drive will only need one.
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Old 11-19-2003, 12:22 AM   #9
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The bigest difference is the use of the ICH5R chipset on the -E model. The P4C800 Deluxe used the ICH5 , the cheeper version without S-ATA Raid support. The -E model not only has the ICH5R chipset with the Intel S-ATA Raid on a seperate bus but it also includes a Promise 378 Fastrack chip for 2 more S-ATA drives in RAID or just normal and support for Ultra ATA 133 and below drives in a RAID setup. So you could have 6 drives in a RAID configuration on this board if you wanted


found this info, might help
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Old 11-19-2003, 12:43 AM   #10
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Bailey,
I don't know of anyone, right now, who could really use a board like that but over at abx they think very highly of it.
If I ever get asked to build a video work station it looks like it would be a great choice though.
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This may be a moot point anyway - naja started a new thread - bought an ide controller card............
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well it is a very popular board for thoes reasons, plus it performance with the p4-2.4C cpu and some good ram. it will go over 3 gig and be stable too, and cool.

I frequent the asus forum too

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This may be a moot point anyway - naja started a new thread - bought an ide controller card............

Oh well, she'll have drive controllers to spare and then some.
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still is fun to hash it out and learn
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